Tony Blue Eyes by Dr. A Krongrad

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Tony Crispino
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   Posted 9/7/2010 8:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Arnon Krongrad plopped this link on my Facebook page today. Arnon is one of the cofounders of the Prostate Cancer Infolink and Prostate Cancer International. He has authored in the past including Behing the Mask in the miami Herald, and now an column with Psychology Today magazine entitled "Scrub, Rinse, Repeat" A surgeons view of patients, doctors and health.

Today's article is titled "Tony Blue Eyes" and after several exchanges with him today, I still don't know if he had an ulterior motive for that Anyway here is a nice read on hwo to waste money in the industry through fraud (which can be controlled) and the legal system, which cannot be controlled:

Nice article, Arnon,


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   Posted 9/8/2010 7:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Pretty deep in his words on that and you might find yourself re-reading some it to get the message.
I suppose someone like James Carvel or such, might say "It's the culture stupid"  which I get that message really clear and fast.  Money rules in our culture today and it has side effects which is reflected in that writing.  What is your take on his writing this???

Ed C. (Old67)
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   Posted 9/8/2010 9:12 AM (GMT -6)   
I saw the interview on 60 minutes, it is amazing how much fraud is out there. I always check the receipts I get from CMS to make sure that they are all correct.
Age: 67 at Dx on 12/30/08
PSA 9/05 1.15; 8/06 1.45; 12/07 2.41; 8/08 3.9; 11/08 3.5 free PSA 11%
2 cores out of 12 were positive Gleason (4+4) and (4+5)
Negative CT scan and bone scan done on 1/16
Robotic surgery performed 2/9/09 Dr Fagin, Austin TX
Prostate weighed 57 grams size:5.2 x 5.0 x 4.9 cm
Posterior lateral lesions measuring 1.5 x 1.4 x 1.0 cm showing focal capsular penetration over a distance of 3mm in circumference.
Prostatic adenocarciroma accounts for approx. 10-20% of the hemisphere.
Gleason 4+4
both nerve bundles removed,
pT3a Nx Mx, Negative margins
seminal vesicles clean, lymph nodes: not dissected
continent after 5 months
2 months PSA test 4/7/09 result <0.1
5 months PSA test 7/9/09 result <0.1
8 months PSA test 10/9/09 result <0.1
11 months PSA test 1/21/10 result 0.004
14 months PSA test 4/19/10 result 0.005

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   Posted 9/8/2010 9:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Thought provoking article.  Thank you for posting.  Makes one think of lots of things.  Made me think these things:
  1. There are good doctors out there who want to do the right things.  There are lots of folks (here, and elsewhere) who like to participate in the sport of "doctor bashing", but this appears to me as an example of a doctor who wants to do the right things.
  2. Disgust over frivolous lawsuits in our society causing a waste of our limited resources, and also how mindlessly quickly people are prone to threaten legal action.
  3. Disgust over the creative criminal minds going to waste nefariously and unproductively rather than contributing positively to society.

Good article; left me with a bad feeling.  Glad to read someone with such good inside knowledge writing so critically of the situation; we on the outside know so little.

Also read his other online articles; enjoyed them a little better.


Post Edited (Casey59) : 9/8/2010 8:53:24 AM (GMT-6)

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   Posted 9/8/2010 6:54 PM (GMT -6)   
I, like Tony have met Dr Krongrad and can speak of his desire to empower patients. He is an amazing person as is his wonderful wife. Tony and I spent a couple days in Miami at his clinic a couple years ago and it was so refreshing to meet a doctor that had such a passion for people.
Thanks for posting this Tony

peace to you
My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
age 47 (current)

My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes (3 positive) was 4+4=8
I had 44 IMRT's
I was on Lupron, Casodex, and Avodart for two years with my last shot March 2009. I am currently (7-22-2010) not on any medication.
My Oncology hospital is The Cancer Treatment Center of America in Zion IL
PSA July of 2007 was 16.4
PSA May of 2008 was.11
PSA July 24th, 2008 is 0.04
PSA Dec 16th, 2008 is .016
PSA Mar 30th, 2009 is .02
PSA July 28th 2009 is .01
PSA OCt 15th 2009 is .11
PSA Jan 15th 2010 is .13
PSA April 16th of 2010 is .16
PSA July 22nd of 2010 is .71
Testosterone keeps rising, the current number is 156, up from 57 in May

T level dropped to 37 Mar 30th, 2009
cancer in 4 of 6 cores
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