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James C.
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   Posted 9/8/2010 9:32 AM (GMT -6)   
The suggestion was made to see if we could get the Signature thread moved to a Sticky, so it would be readily available (thanks woodysgirl)at the top of the main page. How about we use it for any new signatures, updates in signatures, etc? This will address the concerns of those who want to read everyones signatures and can't, with the new setup, and those who are changing theirs a lot as they progress on their Journey. Those who wish to be really detailed and write pages of every detail (and you know who you are smilewinkgrin)can write to their hearts content in the main body of the post.

One thing we ask is that you go back thru the thread and find any and all old signature you may have posted and delete them, to help keep the length manageable. You can do so by clicking the little X icon on the right side of the post, when you have it opened and are reading it. This will help greatly. Remember, signatures are limited to 400 characters now, which should be enough for the majority of us, but for those who need more, maybe you can list the stats in the signature and the additional info, comments in the main body of the post?

Also, please let's not turn this new feature into a discussion thread by commenting back and forth between when someone adds something new, etc. Just the facts, please. Extra chat will be edited out ... smilewinkgrin

Post Edited (James C.) : 9/9/2010 10:51:41 AM (GMT-6)


Worried Guy
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   Posted 9/28/2010 10:08 AM (GMT -6)   
James,
Is there away to form a signature link that jumps to just my post rather than the whole signature thread so you don't have to wade down to find mine?
That would be handy. I just don't know how to do it. I can only link to the thread.
Please teach us all, Oh Great Jedi Master of HW. wink
Jeff (the leaking one.)

James C.
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   Posted 9/28/2010 10:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Not that I know of ,Jeff. The links are for the entire threads, individual posts within are still linked by the thread number, so it's all in. In this case, the thread number is 1897477. The Signature one is something different and all posts going to that thread is assigned according to the thread number. An alternative is to create your signature, save it to Notebook and copy and paste into the body of each post, if over 400 characters. If under 400, the just do a Quick Reply and your signature will be posted with your post.

I understand what you are asking, but know of no way to accomplish any more individualized ways in the sticky thread. Sorry.
James C. Age 63
Gonna Make Myself A Better Man tinyurl.com/28e8qcg
4/07: PSA 7.6, 7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS6
9/07: Nerve Sparing open RRP, Path: pT2c, 110 gms., all clear except:
Probable microscopic involvement of the left apical margin -GS6
3 Years: PSA's .04 each test until 04/10-.06, 09/10-.09- Uh-Oh
ED continues: Bimix .30cc & Trimix .15cc PRN

English Alf
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   Posted 9/28/2010 10:43 AM (GMT -6)   
James
I was just thinking the same as Jeff as I sometimes get lost searching through threads where there have been a large number of responses/replies.

On another Forum where I post they have the following set up. Within each thread each reply post is numbered in sequence which is a help when it comes to finding things, so if you want to refer to something you have posted elsewhere as well as including a link in your post to the thread you can add "see post #73" or whatever number it is.

Is it perhaps possible to number the replies at HW too? Otherwise it may just be a case of doing it "manually" ie by saying something such as: "My signature is the first one on page 4 of this thread" as is the case for me.

(and this is a timely reminder for me to go there and edit it to bring it up to date now I'm in the zero club)

Alf

Post Edited (English Alf) : 9/28/2010 11:54:04 PM (GMT-6)


James C.
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   Posted 9/28/2010 10:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Alf, I can't answer that, but will send it along to Peter, who buys and maintains the software package. If anyone knows , he will.
James C. Age 63
Gonna Make Myself A Better Man tinyurl.com/28e8qcg
4/07: PSA 7.6, 7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS6
9/07: Nerve Sparing open RRP, Path: pT2c, 110 gms., all clear except:
Probable microscopic involvement of the left apical margin -GS6
3 Years: PSA's .04 each test until 04/10-.06, 09/10-.09- Uh-Oh
ED continues: Bimix .30cc & Trimix .15cc PRN

Admin
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   Posted 9/28/2010 5:26 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't think that is possible. I'm a little confused by the need to have a signature thread in the first place... I assume it is because there is a 400 character limit on signatures and you want room to give more details? This is the only forum I've seen on HealingWell where that appears to bea limitation. Most people have just narrowed down their signatures to fit.

Another option I'm looking into is the ability to display your signature from within your profile. However, this will take some customization and I'm not sure when I will be able to get to it.... but it is on my to do list.
Peter Waite
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Worried Guy
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   Posted 9/28/2010 7:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I think I might have almost figured it out.
Click this link and it should take you to the message above.

The secret is adding the http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=35&p=1&m=1897477#m1915516 to the end of the link.
Now we just need to figure out how that number is created.
Jeff

The first number is the topic. "m="takes you to the topic "#m" takes you to the message

James C.
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   Posted 9/28/2010 10:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Ok, guys, Peter asked, so now's your opportunity to explain to him the value of signatures for us.
James C. Age 63
Gonna Make Myself A Better Man tinyurl.com/28e8qcg
4/07: PSA 7.6, 7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS6
9/07: Nerve Sparing open RRP, Path: pT2c, 110 gms., all clear except:
Probable microscopic involvement of the left apical margin -GS6
3 Years: PSA's .04 each test until 04/10-.06, 09/10-.09- Uh-Oh
ED continues: Bimix .30cc & Trimix .15cc PRN

English Alf
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   Posted 9/29/2010 2:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Peter,

I have had a browse through a whole load of other subjects at HW and it seems that many/most signatures are either almost non-existent or are still getting added in the "pre-400" state. So it’s hard to tell if 400 is or is not adequate for all, but I don’t think it is enough for the PCa club. A sticky thus seems a reasonable way to deal with this.
Elsewhere at HW and in many other forums a signature often just seems to take the form of a short personal message eg “Alf – Thinking of you all, while I cycle along the cobbled streets.”
But a PCa guy’s signature is all about his medical history not about his philosophy on life.

A number of Prostate Cancer threads are started by people asking about something related to their own or their partner’ s problem(s) and the first few replies are nearly always asking for more details. You have to supply quite a few details in a signature to paint a full picture and over time there end up being more and more details to add.
Another aspect of having cancer is investigating your own chances of survival, which you can kind of do by searching for someone with a similar history etc and you may find some of that information in the signatures, but the signature needs to have enough information in it.

The 400-character limit is thus a bit of a problem as a PCa patient comes with a load of data. That data helps to explain what is wrong and when it went wrong; where, when and how you were treated, and by whom; then there is any follow-up treatment, plus the issue of side effects. Signatures may thus need to mention:
a person’s age; family history of cancer; PSA levels at regular intervals; free PSA; PSA velocity/doubling time; Digital Rectal Examination; biopsy and results; staging; treatment options and choices; hospitals used; doctors seen; post-op pathology; catheters; continence, pads, leaking; Erectile Dysfunction; Sex; medications taken/used; repeated follow-up PSA testing; Adjuvant or Salvage Radiation Therapy; Hormone Therapy; new treatments, To say nothing of dates (loads of them).

It’s just about impossible to put all this data into 400 characters, and even if you use all the PCa abbreviations possible to reduce the number of characters the signature can simply end up looking like code and becomes more or less indecipherable to all but veteran members e.g. my own signature could be:
48 at Dx. 23/03/2009 PSA=8.6. Free PSA=0.9. DRE –ve. 20/04/2009 Biop 2/12 +ve. Gleason 6 (3+3) 29/07/2009 Nerve-sparing RALP at AVL-NKI Amsterdam. Erection with Cath. Cath out 06/08/2009. Post-op Gleason 7 (3+4). Tumor on left + bladder neck. Left SVI. No PNI. No VI. Clear Margins. Stage T3b. No ED. 21/09/2009 Stopped using pads. 17/09 2009 PSA=0.1. 17/03/2010 PSA=0.4. SRT from 26/04/2010 to 11/06/2010. 66Gy 33 sessions. 17/09/2010 PSA=<0.1. Post SRT: tired; bad BMs; frequency & urgency. Slight ED.
But even I can hardly understand it and that was about 500 characters anyway.
However clearly signatures do not need to have layouts that waste loads of space either, or repeatedly get included in the same thread. I thus also think it helps that the default setting for replying is now not to include the signature.

The 400 limit is thus fine by me, but I am convinced the guys need the sticky to understand better what someone else was, is and might be doing.


Alf – and thank you for HW!!!!!!!!!!

Worried Guy
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   Posted 9/29/2010 7:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Peter, James,
I was not well informed about PCA when I first joined. I had no idea if a PSA of 22 was slightly bad or terrible. I was incapable of reading the numbers. A few guys had their signatures all written out and I started to get the idea.
The second night after my Davinci surgery I was awake, depressed, in pain, and posted my first question: "How do I get to sleep?" A few guys jumped in right away with answers. Their answers were good, but it was their signatures that got me. As I sat in my kitchen in the middle of the night I began to read the details of their journey and could watch the progression of their disease and their slow but steady progress. I was so impressed with their willingness to share and put it all "out there" to help a total stranger, I stared to cry. One guy spoke of his nerves being "carved up a bit" and having ED, another discussed his progression with incontinence, another about his many biopsies and the results over the past 10 years - normal until the day they finally hit the hidden tumor, another listed details of his recurrence.

By the time I read about 30 full signatures I was all cried out. I had a better understanding of the road ahead because guys like Goodlife, geezer and others were willing to mark the trees all along the way, not just at the destination.

Months later, I looked at another forum and noticed that their signatures were all decorated with fancy fonts and colors, with smiley faces and "inspirational sayings" and compared that to the PCa forum where it was results, data, progression - just the facts - and pointed it out to my wife. She said "Are you surprised at that? It's a guy's site." She was right.

Thank you for running such a great site. You and the contributors it has attracted have helped more people than you can imagine.

Jeff

Cajun Jeff
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   Posted 10/1/2010 3:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Peter I can not thank you enough for the site, I can tell you the reason I came to the site was the info in the signatures. The signatures in the prostate cancer section are very progressive. I have cut mine donw to 400 as requested but it no longer tells my progression form the start.

One of the things good about the long signatures is we are able to see how others have moved form point 1 to point 6. some have jumped from 1 to 6 is quick order but most have gone very slowly from 1 to 6 in progression. When we are stuck at step 3 we can see in a sig that someone else is in the same boat or just moved from 3 to 4. We can post an e-mail to them are open post about how that was accomplished.

I will follow what ever rule you require because we need this post badly. If there is a way to bring the sigs back I think it is very important to the site. Again not complaining just thinking what is best for the board and other guys starting the walk with PCa.

Cajun Jeff
9/08 PSA 5.4 referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3+4=7 1 positive core in 12 1% cancer core
10/08 Nerve-Sparing open radicalSurgery Path Report Downgrade 3+3=6 GS Stage pT2c margins clea
r3 month: PSA <0.1
19th month: PSA <0.1
Only issue at this time is ED

Mavica
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   Posted 10/1/2010 3:37 PM (GMT -6)   
My signature has been wiped-out and I didn't make a copy as a reference. I find it annoying to have to attempt to re-create the thing.

James C.
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   Posted 10/1/2010 5:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Mavica, here's a fairly current copy maybe you can rebuild from it. From April, 2010

Age: 60 (58 at diagnosis - June, 2008)

April '08 PSA 4.8 ("free PSA" 7.9), up from 3.5 year prior

June '08 had biopsy, 2 days later told results positive but in less than 1% of sample (Gleason's 3+3=6)

Developed sepsis 2 days post-biopsy, seriously ill in hospital for 3 days

Dr. recommended robotic removal using da Vinci; Surgery 9/10/08

Northwestern Memorial Hospital, Chicago, IL; Dr. Robert Nadler, Urologist/Surgeon

Post-Op Gleason's: 3+3, Tertiary 4; Margins: Free ; Bladder & Urethral: Free

Seminal vesicles: Not involved; Lymphatic/Vascular Invasion: Not involved

Tumor: T2c; location: Bilateral; Volume: 20%; Catheter: Removed 12-days after surgery

Incontinent: Yes (1 light (woman's style) pad per day)

ED: Combination of Cialis and MUSE (alprostadil) once weekly: started 9-27-08

Returned to work 9-29-08 (18-19 days post-op)

PSA test result, post-op, 10/08: 0.0; 12/08: 0.0; 4/09: 0.0; 9/09: 0.0; 3/10: 0.0

mikey1955
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   Posted 10/1/2010 5:08 PM (GMT -6)   

Peter,

One of the most important technical features, to me, on this PCa site has been to be able to follow each individual's progress from dx through to treatment choice...and then their individual response to treatment. When I first joined, I knew very little. As I read answers to questions on various threads, I could begin to understand why an individual would post the answer he did.

Why? Because his choice of treatment and history of successes or problems were right in the signature. An instant perspective.

With so many treatment choices for prostate cancer, an individual's signature contained an incredible amount of information as to his experience.

That is invaluable.

JMHO.

Mike   


goodlife
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   Posted 10/1/2010 10:22 PM (GMT -6)   

Peter,

Not every case needs a huge signature, but the ones that do are critical.  For myself , with a Gleason 9, I am continually evaluating my options.  A signature says a thousand words to me.

As an ex data processing person, I think it is a waste to include the signature with every thread a person makes.  The amount of storage used has to be signifcant.

I have wondered why we couldn't maintain our signatures in one place, and then have them retrieved by our memrber signon when viewing a thread post for a particular member.  In fact, it is already stored in our profile, so why is it stored along with the post ? ( or at least I think it is )

At the very least, could we compromise on a slightly higher number such as 500 ?

Thanks again.

Goodlife


Mavica
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   Posted 10/2/2010 8:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you, James C.
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