Two Uplifting Viewpoints

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   Posted 9/20/2010 8:05 PM (GMT -6)   
The underlying but rarely stated theme of this forum is death; our own.
I'm usually a positive person but, occasionally, like most of us I do get down. When this happens I dig out two very positive and very true (in my opinion) viewpoints I'd like to share. They are:
How Golf Taught Me to Deal with Cancer
...... Why am I not depressed? What I've come up with is golf. My freedom from self-pity, rage and a host of other unhappy reactions to this devastating development is owed to a principle learned through years of bad shots, bad bounces and bad lies. Namely, wasting your energy fuming against what is already done is counterproductive. Focusing only on the things you can control, like the next shot, is always the best approach.  Lee Sapira - Golf Digest, May 2010
The Problem with Denying our Mortality is that we don't Give Time its Real Value
...... I testify from experience that acknowledging your own mortality may help you live not only a more meaningful and satisfying life, but a longer life. When you live as if every day were your last day, something magical happens. You realize that what really matters is not the actual but the perceived span of your life. Life is counted not in days, but in meaning. And meaning brings joy to the soul, which in turn brings health to the body. Florence Ferreira, Coping Magazine, February 2010
Be well, Mitch

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   Posted 9/20/2010 8:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Good rules to live by Mitch. The hard part is making them a habit in our lifes, but if one can master that, life is likely sweeter.

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   Posted 9/21/2010 9:44 AM (GMT -6)   
As an avid golfer I will concur on some of the golf digest article. . A good round is a wonderful thing while a bad one humbles you. One of the best things about golf for most is no matter your troubles you can really set them aside for over 4 hours as you concentrate on the game and the beauty of your surroundings. Being I play courses in Colorado that is more common for me than maybe some others.
Diagnosed 11/08/07 - Age: 58 - 3 of 12 @5%
Psa: 2.3 - 3+3=6 - Size: 34g -T-2-A

2/22/08 - 3D Mapping Saturation Biopsy - 1 of 45 @2% - Psa:2.1 - 3+3=6 - 28g after taking Avodart - Catheter for 1 day -Good Candidate for TFT(Targeted Focal Therapy) Cryosurgery(Ice Balls) - Clinical Research Study

4/22/08 - TFT performed at University of Colorado Medical Center - Catheter for 4 days - Slight soreness for 2 weeks but afterward life returns as normal

7/30/08 - Psa: .32
11/10/08 - Psa.62 -
April 2009 12 of 12 Negative Biopsy

2/16/10 12 of 12 Negative Biopsy

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   Posted 9/21/2010 10:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Since I have never golfed in my entire life, I would have to say I don't get the first connection. Sure it will make sense to our many golfing friends.
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos marg
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 11/10 ?
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, on Catheter #21, will be having Ileal Conduit Surgery in Sept.

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   Posted 9/21/2010 2:11 PM (GMT -6)   

Maybe it works both ways. Since you've had cancer, if you take up golf, you will be good at it. :)

I've never played golf either (except mini), but someday I will put this theory to the test.

Diagnosis at age 53. PSA 2007 about 2; PSA 2008 4.3
Biopsy September 2008: 6 of 12 cores positive; Gleason 4+3 = 7
CT and Bone scan negative
Da Vinci surgery at City of Hope December 8, 2008
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Catheter out on 7th day, replaced on 8th day, out again 14th day following negative cystogram
Pathology: pT2c; lymph nodes negative; margins involved; 41 grams, 8% involved by tumor; same Gleason 4+3=7
PSA 1/22/08 non-detectable! 8-)
4/23/09, 07/30/09, Oct 2009, Nov 09, Feb 10, June 10 still undetectable (<0.01)!

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   Posted 9/21/2010 2:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Golf can be a metaphor and you can use fishing, time with family, running, tennis anything that makes you happy.

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   Posted 9/21/2010 6:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Golf/Prostate Cancer corollary: Play it as it lies.

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