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   Posted 10/1/2010 2:30 PM (GMT -6)   
The neighbor across the street from me had Davinci about 5-6 weeks ago. As I was leaving for work this morning I saw him in his driveway and asked how things were going. He stated he had his first post surgery PSA and it came back as Negative.
I've never heard of a negative PSA Or do you think he was just meaning below 0? He didn't tell me the actual number.
I didn't question him since I had to get to work. Overall he was happy with his surgery and told me he had not worn a pad in 3 days but was wearing one this morning since he was going out fishing with some friends.

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   Posted 10/1/2010 2:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Ask him if he has a copy of it? No such thing as negative math in PCa.
Dx-2002 total urinary blockage, bPsa 46.6 12/12 biopsies all loaded 75-95% vol.; Gleasons scores 7,8,9's (2-sets), gland size 35, ct and bone scans look clear- ADT3 5 months prior to radiations neutron/photon 2-machines, cont'd. ADT3, quit after 2 yrs. switched to DES 1-mg, off 1+ yr., controlled well, resumed, used intermittently, resumed useage

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   Posted 10/1/2010 3:05 PM (GMT -6)   
With some of the ways I've been given results, I would take that as "undetectable". Some of the people who call with results are a little lax -

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   Posted 10/1/2010 3:11 PM (GMT -6)   

i have a friend who was recently diagnosed with PC and he doesn't even know his PSA.  in fact i know several guys who have had PC and most don't know their numbers, or meds they took.



age: 55
PSA on 12/09: 6.8
no symptoms, no prostate enlargement
12/12 cores positive....gleason 3+4 = 7
received 3rd and last lupron shot 9/14/10

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   Posted 10/1/2010 3:38 PM (GMT -6)   
I, too, would understand the comment from the neighbor to mean "undetectable." No sign of cancer = "negative" to my way of thinking.

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   Posted 10/1/2010 3:39 PM (GMT -6)   
i would assume it was a figure of speech
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos marg
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 11/10 ?
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, on Catheter #21, will be having Ileal Conduit Surgery in Sept.

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   Posted 10/2/2010 9:08 AM (GMT -6)   
F8 said...

i have a friend who was recently diagnosed with PC and he doesn't even know his PSA.  in fact i know several guys who have had PC and most don't know their numbers, or meds they took.


 This kind of situation never ceases to amaze me.  They don't know what they don't know, and what they don't know could ... well, kill them worst case scenario.  My B-I-L was diagnosed this past Spring and with my husband going through everything he has for the past 3 years, of course my BIL and my sister asked us a few questions.  I told them there is much to learn and that they need to be proactive in his treatment, and that I now have quite a bit of knowledge on the subject and to feel free to contact me with any questions.  They never did which I find a bit surprising.  My husband's PSA had risen to .8 and the surgeon was still saying, "Let's wait another 3 months".  In hindsight we should have gone to an oncologist following his RT when his PSA never became undetectable.  Had we not been proactive at that point, who knows where we would be now.  I think a lot of patients must just not want to know, which is sad and dangerous.

Dx June 2007 - age 48

davinci RRP October 2007
75% of prostate involved
Positive margin
Scans clear
No detectable mets
SRT - Feb 2008
At Dx: 8
Mar 09: 0.4
Jun 09: 0.7
Aug 09: 1.7
Feb 10: .008
Apr 10: .007
Jul 10: .006
Sep 10: .005

Commenced Dr. Robt Leibowitz "Three Pronged Approach" protocol in August 2009

Completed chemo Dec 28 2009
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