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clocknut
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   Posted 10/4/2010 8:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Probably half the time when people learn of my diagnosis, they inquire about my "prostrate surgery."
 
I don't think I've ever corrected anyone by pointing out that the correct term is "prostate" not "prostrate," but wonder how some of you veterans on the site handle this.
 
Maybe it's the English major in me, or maybe it's just that I would like to see this serious disease called exactly what it is:  "prostate cancer" not "prostRate cancer." Or, maybe I'm making something out of nothing.  Certainly, the most important issue is awareness, whether we say "prostate" or "prostrate," but precision in language is just as desirable as surgical precision.
 
 

F8
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   Posted 10/4/2010 9:05 AM (GMT -6)   
>> but precision in language is just as desirable as surgical precision<<
 
you mean to you cool .
 
i have a friend who has a doctorate and prostate cancer who say says prostrate.  he's not operating on me.
 
ed
age: 55
PSA on 12/09: 6.8
no symptoms, no prostate enlargement
12/12 cores positive....gleason 3+4 = 7
HT, BT and IGRT
received 3rd and last lupron shot 9/14/10

jacketch
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   Posted 10/4/2010 9:13 AM (GMT -6)   
I was prostrate for a while after my surgery.
63 yo
V10.46 Dx Feb-09

RRP 5-5-09

No adverse SE

PSA 8-10-10 -0-

PSA 9-21-09 -0-

1 year PSA 5-3-10 -0-



Thriving, not just surviving!

clocknut
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   Posted 10/4/2010 10:07 AM (GMT -6)   
I had an elderly friend who thought he was getting "Old Timer's Disease" (Alzheimer's disease). I thought that was a very good description.

Purgatory
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   Posted 10/4/2010 10:23 AM (GMT -6)   
its just a common mistake, many new to pc make it, we all learn. 2 years ago, i scarecly knew where my prostate was located, and was clueless as what its function.
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos marg
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 11/10 ?
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, on Catheter #21, will be having Ileal Conduit Surgery in Sept.

clocknut
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   Posted 10/4/2010 10:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Well, that was sort of my point. We all mispronounce certain words, but a lot of men are unaware that they even have a prostate gland, where it's located, what it does, and what problems it can cause. The fact that it's so often mistakenly called the "prostrate" tells me that there's a serious need to educate men (and women) about the importance of prostate health, regular PSA tests and DRE's. The general population seems much more aware of other common cancers.

NEIrish
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   Posted 10/4/2010 3:38 PM (GMT -6)   
We knew there was a prostate, but had never heard about a Cowper's gland - which could keep the orgasm from being 100% dry. Live and learn.

And as an aside, many women can't pronounce "mastectomy" either. They drop that first "t". And BCa has a h*ll of a lot more funding.
Husband 60yrs., no symptms: PSA 10/04 2.73, 12/06 3.64, 5/09 3.9, 10/09 4.6, 1/10 5.0w/ free PSA 24
6 core biop 4/1/10 path rept: rt mid: adnocarc. G=3+3, 5% of core; R apx v. susp. minute ca, R base bnign w/ mod. atrophy, L side atrphy only; 2nd opnion JH confrmd
MRI - 15mm nodule
BiLatRP surg 7/6/10, path: T2c, nodes, sem.ves, extra caps. neg., adenoc both sides G=3+3 cntinent, Viagr-8/27 ED

Jazzman1
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   Posted 10/4/2010 7:19 PM (GMT -6)   
clocknut said...
Well, that was sort of my point. We all mispronounce certain words, but a lot of men are unaware that they even have a prostate gland, where it's located, what it does, and what problems it can cause.


Two months ago, I was blissfully ignorant of these things. Ahh, the good old days...

Retire1965
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   Posted 10/5/2010 3:21 AM (GMT -6)   
I personally very much agree with clocknut.
 
I intend to correct anyone who says prostrate instead of prostrate.  I will be sure to elaborate with a little educational information whenever possible.  If they are mispronouncing the name of the gland, they could probably use a little information to allow them to properly manage their health.
 
Retire
45 Male, Prostatitus in Summer of 2009
PCA diagnosed in November 2009 due to elevated PSA level
12 core biopsy, 1 core positive 15% 3X3. T1c
PSA started around 10 at the end of last year escalated to 15 and is now around 5.0. RP done September 20th
Initial surgeon feedback is no extra prostatic extension. Waiting on full pathology report.

Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 10/5/2010 4:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Retire1965 said...
I intend to correct anyone who says prostrate instead of prostrate. 
 
What's wrong with this picture idea

kbota
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   Posted 10/5/2010 4:32 AM (GMT -6)   
I think Retire said that on purpose, and I thought it was funny as heck.

k
Age 57 at Diagnosis
May, 09 PSA 2.26
June, 10 PSA 3.07 Free PSA 18%
Met with Uro, DRE +
June, 10 Biopsy, 7 of 12 cores, up to 60%, 4+5=9
July 21, 2010 - RRP
Nodes negative
Vesicles negative
tumor contained in capsule, still 4+5=9
perineural invasion extensive
Aug 5, 10 catheter out
Sept 3, 10 PSA - 0.00 (great big whew)
As of 9/3/2010, I'm 99% continent - only occasional stress incontinence !

BuiDoi
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   Posted 10/5/2010 4:34 AM (GMT -6)   
What's wrong with this picture idea
 
I think we can put that one to a mistake..
 
The other one that gets me is   Mast and Mask    ---  ie  they flew the flag on the mask !
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An38
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   Posted 10/5/2010 5:38 AM (GMT -6)   
This is something that genuinely doesn't bother me, medicine is full of very difficult words and if someone can spell and say prostate perfectly but doesn't know the first thing about PC that would worry me.

My husband who tends to bumble through the English language making up words as he goes, at the beginning called the prostate "prostrate". And yes he knew about psa. Unfortunately with his diagnosis people have said it so many times to him that he actually says it correctly now. I wish we could go back to the days of "prostrate".

An
Husband's age: 52. Sydney Australia.
Family history: Mat. grandfather died of PC at 72. Mat. uncle died of PC at 60. He has hereditary PC.
PSA: Aug07 - 2.5|Feb08 - 1.7|Oct09 - 3.67 (free PSA 27%)|Feb10 - 4.03 (free PSA 31%) |Jun10 - 2.69. DRE normal.
Biopsy 28Apr10: negative for a diagnosis of PC however 3 focal ASAPs “atypical, suspicious but not diagnostic” for PC. Review of biopsy by experienced pathologist, 1/12 core: 10% 3+3 (left transitional), 1/12 core: ASAP (left apex)
Nerve sparing RP, 20Aug10 with Dr Stricker. Post-op path: 3+4 (ISUP 2005). Neg margins, seminal vesicles, extraprostatic extension. Multifocal, with involvement in the peripheral, apex, fibro-muscular and transitional zones.

Sephie
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   Posted 10/5/2010 5:51 AM (GMT -6)   
doesn't bother me if someone refers to the ole walnut as a prostrate or a prostate gland...since my husband doesn't have one, really don't care what they call it.

now, if you wanna talk about Americans not knowing the capitol of the U.S., that's a discussion I can get behind (LOL).
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