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BillArb
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   Posted 10/5/2010 10:21 AM (GMT -6)   
My catheter was removed on Monday, September 25, after open RP on September 16.  Right out of the batter's box, I was incontinent.  After 3-4 days, I now wake up dry in the morning but struggle to stay dry during the day.  What I have noticed is that I am unable to go for very long before I need to pee.  At night, I typically wake up every hour to 2 hours.  During the day, I typically pee about every hour or so (sometimes I even pee more frequently).  Is this a fairly typical progression?  I'm hoping to reach the point where I can go several hours between visits to the bathroom but that doesn't seem to be working just yet.

Paul1959
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   Posted 10/5/2010 10:47 AM (GMT -6)   
You are totally normal. At night, a good exercise would be to consciously hold it after the urge hits. This will strengthen your one remaining valve and help the bladder get used to the new full feeling. But don't over do it. The progression to continence is exactly what you are experiencing - dry at night - dry till noon - dry till dinner - dry till bedtime. It will tend to go in plateaus. Just suddenly, you'll notice you've been dry for most of the day. You are normal. Stuff will come out in chunks, that's normal. Blood will come out, that's normal. the only thing to worry about is when nothing comes out at all!
Paul
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knotreel
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   Posted 10/5/2010 11:02 AM (GMT -6)   
It looks like you are doing great, probably ahead of the "normal" recovery. As long as you have a good stream, my guess you will have a great recovery. Congratulations! I hope your recovery continues to go well.

Fairwind
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   Posted 10/5/2010 11:06 AM (GMT -6)   
After ten days with the catheter, your bladder shrinks and gets lazy..My experience is exactly the same as yours..Try holding it as long as you can in the morning to get your bladder stretched back out..Sometimes that strong urge will fade and give you another hour..By doing this, the bladders capacity improves quickly.

I had to get up 3 times at night in the beginning, but now only once...Trying to "hold it" at night can be risky...
Age 68.
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age 58: 4.5
age 61: 5.2
age 64: 7.5, DRE "Abnormal"
age 65: 8.5, " normal", biopsy, 12 core, negative...
age 66 9.0 "normal", 2ed biopsy, negative, BPH, Proscar
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ejn
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   Posted 10/5/2010 11:25 AM (GMT -6)   
This all sounds familiar and normal to me.  At almost 2 months from surgery during the weekend I can hold it almost all day without thinking about it, but sitting at my desk at work I go more often just because.  Trying to hold it is a good idea and it works.  You will be fine in not time.
 
Ed
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DaVinci: 8/11/10, Dr David Bryan, SSM DePaul-St Louis
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Gleason 3+3=6
Tumor involves left lobe only
Tumor constitutes less than 5% of gland volume
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No capsular invasion detected
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Proximinal urethral margin of resection free of tumor
Radial margin of resection free of tumor
Seminal vesicles uninvolved by carcinoma
TM stage T2a (unilateral less than 1/2 of one side), NX, MX
ALL Margins uninvolved
Extra Prosatic extension: Absent
PSA: 9/10 <.1,

142
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   Posted 10/5/2010 10:38 PM (GMT -6)   
My recovery (so-called) is a little different - I've not had to get up at night since the catheter was pulled unless I drank something carbonated - guarantees a flood, BUT, for months, the second I started to get up in the morning, the flood began. It was the PCa Olympics to get to the bathroom before the Depends pant flooded out.
 
Daytime - at first (two months or so) 20 minutes was my max daytime hold. At almost a year out, 2 hours is still a dream. Sometimes I make 2 hours, more often it is less, with a sudden extreme urge to go. This may have been worsened by the radiation.

Post Edited (142) : 10/5/2010 9:56:06 PM (GMT-6)

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