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Jazzman1
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   Posted 10/8/2010 9:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Well I saw the man today about setting up a surgery. He said, "let's do it on November 2nd." I told him I thought I needed more time to build up my anxiety, but the date is set. shakehead

A few interesting things:

* He prefers open surgery, and he prefers to use an epidural block, so I'll be awake during the surgery. (My view is that he should do it any way he wants. If he wants to wear a chicken suit with loud polka music playing, I'm gonna let him.)

* Since I'll be awake, I'll have to prepare some good operating room jokes (I'm accepting submissions).

* Since he's at a teaching hospital, I asked him how much a resident might be involved in the surgery. He described it as a four-handed procedure, and that often one doc needs to hold things in place while the other cuts or sews. They generally work on opposite sides and take turns. He assured me, though, that he's always right there, and that I'll be awake to see for myself. You can bet I'll be counting every suture.

* He thinks the Bostwick calculator and Partin tables are conservative, and he expects a slightly better likelihood of organ confined disease.

* I asked him about doing Kegels. He says there are no studies demonstrating their effectiveness. He said I can do them if I want, but he thinks recovering continence is mainly a matter of time.

* He tells me I can expect to be back at work in six weeks, although he's always careful about making guarantees. I guess that means I'll make it to the office holiday party.

So I guess the list-keepers can put me down for the November surgeries. Hope I get some kinda prize for being first on the list. I'll go start my anxiety building exercises now...

Jonathan
Age 55

PSA:
8/09 2.69
7/10 4.00
8/10 4.11

Biopsy 8/10
Three of 14 cores positive: 10%, 60% & 80%
Stage T1C
Gleason 6

goodlife
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   Posted 10/8/2010 9:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Jonathon,

Good deal. I am happy that you found the "man". I wish you every success. Cleveland is a great place.

Not sure about the epideural tho. I would imagine they might give something to relax you a little bit too, and maybe you'll nap off a little. Laying there for 4 hours is a long time. I had a spinal for a kidney exam, and I was ready to get up after an hour.

Be remembering you on 11/2.
Goodlife
 
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared, but carved up a little.
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks .
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)
5 month PSA <.03 (undetectable)
6 Month PSA <.01
1 pad a day, no progress on ED.  Trimix injection
No pads, 1/1/10,  9 month PSA < .01
1 year psa (364 days) .01
15 month PSA <.01

Jazzman1
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   Posted 10/8/2010 9:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, Goodlife.

I've never had an epidural, so I don't really know what to expect. He said they can give me various levels of sedation if I want, but I think I'd like to be around for it if it's not too uncomfortable.

Four hours does sound like a long time. He said I'll be his third surgery that day, so maybe I'll get express service. I just hope they wash their hands in between.

Maybe I should bring something to read. tongue

zufus
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   Posted 10/9/2010 7:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Ask if you can see the walnut before it gets recycled!
Dx-2002 total urinary blockage, bPsa 46.6 12/12 biopsies all loaded 75-95% vol.; Gleasons scores 7,8,9's (2-sets), gland size 35, ct and bone scans look clear- ADT3 5 months prior to radiations neutron/photon 2-machines, cont'd. ADT3, quit after 2 yrs. switched to DES 1-mg, off 1+ yr., controlled well, resumed, used intermittently, resumed useage

Purgatory
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   Posted 10/9/2010 7:50 AM (GMT -6)   
i have never, ever heard of having open surgery without General Anthes. It frightens me to think of that. Are you sure you want to be awake above the waist? Its a long surgery, I had it. And with complications, could be longer. What is the reasoning? Much easier to be put under, and in the blink of an eye, its over with. You may see and hear things you don't want to remember. This is a first for me

david in sc

Post Edited (Purgatory) : 10/9/2010 10:19:12 AM (GMT-6)


Highwayman
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   Posted 10/9/2010 9:17 AM (GMT -6)   
I am reading Walsh's book right now and he mentions epidurals as common, less bleeding. Walsh says they may give you a valum or something.
Since the doc is in there changing the pump can he give you a turbo model? Maybe solar powered with and extenda boom? :)
I'm waiting for my surgury date. Good luck Johnathan.

Post Edited (Highwayman) : 10/9/2010 9:21:56 AM (GMT-6)


Jazzman1
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   Posted 10/9/2010 9:18 AM (GMT -6)   
I definitely wanna see the walnut, zufus.

Purgatory, the reasoning is that the respirator creates positive air flow, increases blood pressure and promotes more bleeding. He likes the epidural because there's less bleeding. He said he can give me something to relax me or make me sleepy if I want, so I may end up sleeping through part of the procedure. Apparently having the patient awake and talking doesn't bother him.

As for what may bother me, I think I'll be alright with it. That sort of thing doesn't really bother me as long as there's no pain. Just so an alien doesn't pop out...
Age 55

PSA:
8/09 2.69
7/10 4.00
8/10 4.11

Biopsy 8/10
Three of 14 cores positive: 10%, 60% & 80%
Stage T1C
Gleason 6

F8
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   Posted 10/9/2010 9:47 AM (GMT -6)   
one of my doctors talked about epidurals before brachytherapy but he said they required more recovery room time and they were seldom used for that procedure.  as long as you are cool with it but there's no way in hell i'd go for it smilewinkgrin .
 
ed
age: 55
PSA on 12/09: 6.8
no symptoms, no prostate enlargement
12/12 cores positive....gleason 3+4 = 7
HT, BT and IGRT
received 3rd and last lupron shot 9/14/10

Purgatory
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   Posted 10/9/2010 10:23 AM (GMT -6)   
jazz

have you ever had a major surgery before?

an open RP is considered an extremely complex surgery.

in our day and age, bleeding is not a common thing with open surgeries, not like it was even 20 years ago. they banked 3 pints for me and never needed a drop, they recycled my own blood as needed, and even then, my surgeon said it was but a few teaspoons in quantity.

this is just my opinion, i respect your own, but i have had so many surgeries, and remember what went on during any of them was not in the cards for me, it can be very traumatic.

good luck, its yours to do as you please, and i am cool with that.

i have 8 surgeries in the past 23 months, two of them major, and not one of them do I want to "remember" being awake during them. i enjoy being blacked out by GA, its blissful, and instantantious from the patients point of view.

david in sc
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos marg
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 11/10 ?
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, on Catheter #21, will be having Ileal Conduit Surgery in Sept.

Jazzman1
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   Posted 10/9/2010 10:37 AM (GMT -6)   
David,

Thanks for your concern. You've been right there in my corner since the beginning of this little saga, and I appreciate it.

I have had major surgery before, but nothing like what you've been through.

My take on this is that we're should do this in whatever way the doc is comfortable. I'm very nearly as interested in his comfort level as mine. I want him to be as comfortable and at ease as he can be during this complex procedure. Moreover, he has vast experience with this, while I have none. It would be foolish, in my view, to try to micromanage this surgery for him. He has my confidence, and I'm going to let him do his thing his way.

I don't think I'll have a problem with being awake; if I did I'd say something. I do, however, have an out. He did say that I can be sedated if I want, and he can give me drugs to ease the anxiety or make me sleepy.

My hunch is that any anxiety is going to be more general in nature, and not related to what specifically goes on during the procedure. I also won't have his view of what's happening, and he seems to think I won't actually see much. However, if I find it overwhelming, or just get fatigued by the whole thing, I'm sure he'll give me something to make me sleep through it.

Candidly, I'm a lot more worried about the after-effects in terms of incontinence and ED than I am about the actual procedure. I've been making a lot of jokes about this, but I don't take any of it lightly. This guy's a department chair who has done over 1,000 surgeries. He continues to do a lot of surgeries, and is doing three on the day of my surgery. Again, he has my confidence.

Jonathan

Post Edited (Jazzman1) : 10/9/2010 10:42:16 AM (GMT-6)


Purgatory
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   Posted 10/9/2010 10:50 AM (GMT -6)   
jonathan,

i wont keep beating this to death, i agree you need to let your surgeon do the surgery his way, he doesnt need your input on that. i think most guys here would find it a bit bizzare to have this type of surgery without GA. It shouldn't make any problems for your dr. if you wanted to be knocked out, makes it easier in some ways, as they can control pain better with the patient knocked out. if you go through with this method, please keep a good journal you can post here of the event. i would really like to know what you thought and felt.

the teaching school part would not be for me, but doesn't mean i think its a bad idea. i had a good local surgeon, with hundreds of opens behind him, and had it done at a good local hospital that has taken care of me many times in the past. Think I figured I have had 14 surgeries there since 1997. I needed that comfort level too.

The after effects vary so much. No way to predict that. Even if you have a top 10 surgeon at a top 10 hospital. We have guys with total nerved spared ops still 100% ED after two years, guys with zero incontinence as soon as the catheter is out. I am the lucky minority, but it does happen, despite these 8 ops and 2 months of SRT, I have never had a single day of ED, and I only have my right nerves intact. Go figure.

When push comes to shove, its not the method, its the skill and expertise of your surgeon, and of course, how your body reacts to it all, and I hate to use the work luck in a blind sense, but yes, a certain amount of luck.

You would agree, erradicating the cancer is paramont to all over concerns. Hope yours is all done on the first pass.

david in sc
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos marg
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 11/10 ?
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, on Catheter #21, will be having Ileal Conduit Surgery in Sept.

Magaboo
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   Posted 10/9/2010 11:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Jonathan,
 
Are you sure that you'll be awake during the procedure? I had the open RP
about 4 years ago and had the epidural block, but was also put to sleep. I have
not heard of anyone being awake during this major surgery. I shudder to even think about it.
In any case, I wish for a successful outcome for you and a quick and
complete recovery.
All the best to you.
 
Mag

Born 1936
PSA 7.9, Gleason Score 3+4=7, 2 of 8 positive
open RP Nov 06, T3a, Gleasons 3+4=7, Seminal vesicles and lymph nodes clear
Catheter out 15 Dec 06, Dry since 11 Feb 07
All PSA tests in 2007 (4) <.04
PSA tests in 2008: Mar.=.04; Jun.=.05; Sept.=.08; at SRT Start=0.1, Salvage RT completed (33 days-66Gy) 19 Dec 08
PSA: in Jan 09 =.05, all tests to date (Jul 10) <.04

Jakester
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   Posted 10/9/2010 11:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Jazz, I went under a general for my DaVinci however I was offered either epidural block or general when they opened up my ankle breaks last year to put in the metal plates and rods tying the bones back together. I never had an epidural so I went with it. Although I remember being aware of my surroundings, I couldn't see or recall any of the procedures.... only vaguely remember talking to the surgeon (probably telling him fishing exaggerations since it was a river mishap that broke the bones). They had me very, very relaxed. My ankle surgery took about an hour and half but I never had a sense of time that I remember. Not a bad experience at all.

My reasons for the epidural were I usually feel sick after a general and quite sleepy for a couple days.

The only downside was I had to pee before they would release me.... which was weird since you feel nothing from the waist down and slowly recover toes up..... problem being I kept drinking juice forgetting I wouldn't immediately feel the urge so when I did go... I went and went and went. This won't be a problem for you since you'll have a catheter.

When the risks were explained for both types of sedation they seemed to be a toss-up and very, very low.

I can't give you a detailed difference between the surgeries and sedation requirements but I think I might go with the surgeon's preference (esp since I now have experience in both a general and epidural).

Our best,
Jake
Dx 8/08 Pre-op psa 4.2, Age 60, 7 of 12 biopsies positive 3+3
DaVinci LRP 11/08, clear margins, - EPE, vascular or perineural. Gleason 3+4=7, 5-10% of 4.
3 month psa .1 2/09, 6 month .1 5/09, 9 month .2 8/09
broke ankle bones 6/09
9/21/09 Bone scan clear, psa still .2
01/05/10 psa .3, SRT 01/19/10 start 39 sessions 70.2gy, psa @ 6 weeks into IMRT .4
Post SRT psa @ 10 weeks (5/31/2010) .2, @20 weeks (8/20/10) .1 (getting close)

Jazzman1
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   Posted 10/9/2010 11:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Yep, David, getting it all done on the first pass is the most important thing by far.

I'll post an account of how this procedure goes. For me, it sounds like it'll be an interesting experience. I know this wouldn't be for everyone, although my doc reports that most of his patients do fine with the epidural. If I get the screaming meamies, I'm sure they'll get the hammer and knock me out.

The teaching hospital aspect of this isn't for everyone either, and I'm not without my concerns. There are pros and cons to this, in my view. The teaching environment really does keep practitioners current and sharp. Am I a little leery about the prospect of a resident cutting along the nerve bundle? Yes, but I rely on the fact that my doc will be right there, that he's done this a lot, that he appears to exercise good judgment, and that he gets good outcomes.

There certainly is an element of luck in this, as there is in much of one's life. There's luck involved in choosing a mate, in raising children, in choosing a career -- and in surviving prostate cancer. Only a fool wouldn't be somewhat apprehensive. I've done my best to choose an excellent surgeon at an excellent facility. I think it's time for me to let go and allow things to take their course. I take some comfort in knowing that the probabilities are on my side. There are a lot of horror stories in this forum, but they really do represent the minority of cases. They prove that bad stuff can happen to anybody, but in my opinion, someone in my position can't allow himself to dwell on that too much.

I'm going to try to keep my sense of humor, cling to whatever dignity I can find as I deal with catheters and pads and God knows what else, and try to remain optimistic. Whether I'm right or wrong about any of this, chances are excellent I'll be all right in the long run.
Age 55

PSA:
8/09 2.69
7/10 4.00
8/10 4.11

Biopsy 8/10
Three of 14 cores positive: 10%, 60% & 80%
Stage T1C
Gleason 6

Jazzman1
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   Posted 10/9/2010 11:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Mag,

Yes, the man is talking in terms of me being wide awake and aware of what's going on during the procedure. As I mentioned, he also said I can get something to relax me, which I may end up opting for. We'll see how it goes.

Jake,

Thanks for the report. Women who've had epidurals for childbirth swear by it. The risks are low and it appears to be very effective. Considering all the risks associated with all this, the epidural is really among the least of my worries.

Jonathan
Age 55

PSA:
8/09 2.69
7/10 4.00
8/10 4.11

Biopsy 8/10
Three of 14 cores positive: 10%, 60% & 80%
Stage T1C
Gleason 6

Postop
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   Posted 10/9/2010 3:34 PM (GMT -6)   
From what I've heard, this is a bloody operation, especially the open procedure. They can use a blood scavenging machine, which sucks the blood out of the pelvic cavity and reinfuses it after it's filtered. Usually no transfusions needed. It lasts several hours. Might explain some of the OR chit chat. I had mine asleep. Having it awake sounds interesting.

kbota
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   Posted 10/9/2010 3:48 PM (GMT -6)   
I would love to have had a mirror and watch the surgery. That would have been fascinating.

........"Hey doc? What about that funny looking spot there on the left? No, No.....the other left."

he he
Age 57 at Diagnosis
May, 09 PSA 2.26
June, 10 PSA 3.07 Free PSA 18%
Met with Uro, DRE +
June, 10 Biopsy, 7 of 12 cores, up to 60%, 4+5=9
July 21, 2010 - RRP
Nodes negative
Vesicles negative
tumor contained in capsule, still 4+5=9
perineural invasion extensive
Aug 5, 10 catheter out
Sept 3, 10 PSA - 0.00 (great big whew)
As of 9/3/2010, I'm 99% continent - only occasional stress incontinence !

Purgatory
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   Posted 10/9/2010 3:50 PM (GMT -6)   
jonathan

still sounds like you have your head together on this, and if you change your mind, you can still ask for GA and be able to get it

with my op, my surgeon did most all of it, his backup, was the 2nd best surgeon, his partner, at a large practice. there was no doubt who did my surgery

for women in childbirth, perfect solution, as they cant be out with GA for the babys sake.

you are one year younger than me when i had the op

if you need any cath advice, i am the undisputed king here, as i have spent 1 1/2 years nearly on a total of 21 caths prior to my most recent op,
know more about them then any man should have to, lol

david
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos marg
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 11/10 ?
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, on Catheter #21, will be having Ileal Conduit Surgery in Sept.

medved
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   Posted 10/9/2010 3:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Maybe some versed in the i.v. line, along with the epidural block? 

Cajun Jeff
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   Posted 10/9/2010 4:13 PM (GMT -6)   
All I can say is many years ago my wife had an epidural block when she had a secion to give birth. She was wide awake. I can tell you that I had open surgrey and did not need to have any blood banked. Did not need to replace loss blood. I would not have been aposed to being awake during surgery.

Good luck and to keep us posted. We will be waiting for a play by play when you get out. Most of us have been zonked and how no idea what that did in there excipet kill willie!

Cajun jeff
9/08 PSA 5.4 referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3+4=7 1 positive core in 12 1% cancer core
10/08 Nerve-Sparing open radicalSurgery Path Report Downgrade 3+3=6 GS Stage pT2c margins clea
r3 month: PSA <0.1
19th month: PSA <0.1
Only issue at this time is ED

Jazzman1
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   Posted 10/9/2010 4:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the good wishes, guys. I'll report all the gory details when I get back. It may not be for the faint of heart.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, David. I've never been accused of having my head together before. You are definitely the undisputed king of catheters and my go-to guy for cath advice. I suppose the best advice is to avoid having to get one, huh?
Age 55

PSA:
8/09 2.69
7/10 4.00
8/10 4.11

Biopsy 8/10
Three of 14 cores positive: 10%, 60% & 80%
Stage T1C
Gleason 6

Purgatory
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   Posted 10/9/2010 7:06 PM (GMT -6)   
absolutely
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos marg
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 11/10 ?
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, on Catheter #21, will be having Ileal Conduit Surgery in Sept.

goodlife
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   Posted 10/9/2010 7:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Jonathon,

They can "knock you out" chemically anytime you need it. I am very allergic to anesthesia, so I use epideurals for surgical procedures.

At Cleveland, they did a complete chemcial anesthesia for me. No entubation, just IV's. It was really great. If you start getting antsy , the anesthesiologist will slip you a little vallium or some other drug that will let you sleep.

I can tell you from experience, that your back and shoulders get really sore on that hard table after an hour or so. I am sure it will be fine. You certainly aren't the first to have an epideural.

Goodlife
Goodlife
 
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared, but carved up a little.
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks .
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)
5 month PSA <.03 (undetectable)
6 Month PSA <.01
1 pad a day, no progress on ED.  Trimix injection
No pads, 1/1/10,  9 month PSA < .01
1 year psa (364 days) .01
15 month PSA <.01

Jazzman1
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   Posted 10/9/2010 8:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, Goodlife... sleeping through the last two or three hours might be a better deal overall. We'll see how it goes.

I'm sure I won't be able to actually see what's going on, and if the table gets really uncomfortable and the show gets really dull, it might get to be nap time for old Jonathan. I'll keep my options open. Thanks.

On the other hand, maybe they'll start flipping the surgical instruments through the air like those chefs at the Japanese steakhouse. I sure wouldn't wanna sleep through that...
Age 55

PSA:
8/09 2.69
7/10 4.00
8/10 4.11

Biopsy 8/10
Three of 14 cores positive: 10%, 60% & 80%
Stage T1C
Gleason 6

Aimzee
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   Posted 10/10/2010 2:10 AM (GMT -6)   
Jonathan, I do admire your sense of humor and I am sure it will serve you well.  
 
Women who've had epidurals for childbirth swear by it. The risks are low and it appears to be very effective.
 
I have had both natural and epidurals for the birth of my children.  You will be given something to relax you before you receive the epidural.  You need to be relaxed and able to "flop" over like a ragdoll.  It doesn't take long for it to take effect.  I wouldn't worry about experiencing any pain during the surgery; however, you do still have that option for a GA.
 
It also seems to me that you will be prepped with an IV.  I would ask about this, or would they give you a shot?   Now, as far as seeing the procedure, if you wear glasses or contacts - make sure you have them available.  However, I am not so sure you will be able to see all that you need to see in a mirror.
 
I spoke with my husband about this, and his response was "no way"!!  He was asked if he wanted a DVD of the procedure and he politely turned that down.  Were you given a choice about having a recorded operation?
 
It is good that Goodlife has shared his experience!  It is also good that you are keeping your options open.  We wish you the best!
 
Aimzee

Post Edited (Aimzee) : 10/10/2010 2:13:07 AM (GMT-6)

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