All generalities are false

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   Posted 10/23/2010 2:51 PM (GMT -6)   
A friend of a friend has just gone home from hospice to spend his last days with his family. He's 41 years old and had metastatic prostate cancer for at least a year before he was diagnosed. His chiropractor couldn't do anything for his back pain and he eventually took the hint and went to a regular doctor.

Apparently, everything that is said about the appropriate age you should first be checked can be fatally wrong.

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   Posted 10/23/2010 3:37 PM (GMT -6)

Here's a similar tale (not mine, btw)

Dx Feb 2006, PSA 9 @age 43
RRP Apr 2006 - Gleason 3+4, T2c, NX MX, pos margins
PSA 5/06 <0.1, 8/06 0.2, 12/06 0.6, 1/07 0.7.
Salvage radiation (IMRT) Jan-Mar 2007
PSA 9/2007 and thereafter <0.1

Tony Crispino
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   Posted 10/23/2010 4:01 PM (GMT -6)   
You and I are in that group as well. When we were diagnosed the PSA screening standard was 50 years old unless high risk then 45 years old. I can't help but believe that we would have had distant mets if we had only waited a year or so.

STW sorry for the news. All my best to the friends and family...

Advanced Prostate Cancer at age 44 (I am 48 now)
pT3b,N0,Mx (original PSA was 19.8) EPE, PM, SVI. Gleason 4+3=7

RALP ~ 2/17/2007 at the City of Hope near Los Angeles.
Adjuvant Radiation Therapy ~ IMRT Completed 8/07
Adjuvant Hormone Therapy ~ 28 months on Casodex and Lupron.

"I beat up this disease and took its lunch money! I am in remission."
I am currently not being treated, but I do have regular oncology visits.
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   Posted 10/23/2010 4:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Hmmm, "all generalities are false". This statement is itself a generality and if all generalties are indeed false, then so is this one. Which means that all generalities are true? :-)

Generalities are true in most cases, which is why they have that name, but are often there are particular cases where the generality does not apply.

So while it is generally true that PCa is an old man's disease, as these stories show, don't count on it.
Age 63 at diagnosis, now 65.
No symptoms; PSA 5.7; Gleason 4+5=9; cancer in 4 of 12 cores.
Non-nerve-sparing open surgery on 7 March 2008.
Two nights in hospital; catheter out after 7 days.
Continent; no pads needed from the get-go.
Pathology showed organ confined and negative margins. Gleason downgraded to 4+4=8.
6-week : <0.05
7-month: <0.05
13-month: 0.07 (start of a trend?)
19-month: 0.09 (maybe)
25-month: 0.2 (yes, bummer)
27-month: 0.2 (not up; glad about that)
After a learning curve, Bimix injections (0.2ml) worked well. From 14 months, occasional nocturnal erections. At 18 months, "graduated" to just the pump.

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   Posted 10/23/2010 4:45 PM (GMT -6)   
People of all ages get all types of cancers. I've stories of 13 year olds with breast cancer. Doctors diagnosis based on logic and probabilities. Its not probable that someone under 50 has prostate cancer. Most PCP never see a case under 55 i am sure. They cant send you for a full body CT scan everytime you come in with back pain. Most people dont have cancer with this symptom under 40. And thats how they operate. Based on what the odds are and their experience of what they usually see.

Post Edited (ChrisR) : 10/23/2010 3:57:45 PM (GMT-6)

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   Posted 10/23/2010 6:25 PM (GMT -6)   
G - thanks for posting that. I have my quarterly update Monday with my uro and I'm in my quarterly obsessive search to learn more about advanced stage pca. I'm still at the "low and slow" stage and this really really helped me with some perspective. I'm 61 have a 15 month grandson, spent the day pheasant hunting with my 22 year old who shared with me, the times I've inspired him. 35 years ago my wife and I got serious about each other, I get to retire next summer. "daddy's girl" married the son in law I always hoped for and she told me a few week s ago how much that walk down the isle together and the father daughter dance means to her. I have a full and blessed life. thanks.

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   Posted 10/23/2010 9:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Sorry to hear this news. I had a friend die last year of prostate cancer at 49. He was diagnosed and died 7 months later. That is why we need to keep our guard up because this cancer is indeed serious.

peace and love
My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
age 47 (current)

My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes (3 positive) was 4+4=8
I had 44 IMRT's
I was on Lupron, Casodex, and Avodart for two years with my last shot March 2009. I am currently (7-22-2010) not on any medication.
My Oncology hospital is The Cancer Treatment Center of America in Zion IL
PSA July of 2007 was 16.4
PSA May of 2008 was.11
PSA July 24th, 2008 is 0.04
PSA Dec 16th, 2008 is .016
PSA Mar 30th, 2009 is .02
PSA July 28th 2009 is .01
PSA OCt 15th 2009 is .11
PSA Jan 15th 2010 is .13
PSA April 16th of 2010 is .16
PSA July 22nd of 2010 is .71
Testosterone keeps rising, the current number is 156, up from 57 in May

T level dropped to 37 Mar 30th, 2009
cancer in 4 of 6 cores
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