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needhelp1
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   Posted 10/24/2010 1:12 PM (GMT -6)   
I had seeds done in 07, and no natural erection since. I've tried all three with little sucess,better with viagra, but could not sustain the erection. Failure didn't sit so well with me so it was a while before I tried again, this time nothing with 50s my Dr said must try many times and on empty stomack. I don't understand why I'm having a problem, because I can on my own get a 6o% erection, but that other 40% is not happening.Viagra gives me head and stomack discomfort, do you think 100mg may do the trick?

Cajun Jeff
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   Posted 10/24/2010 1:30 PM (GMT -6)   
No reason not to give it a try. It is important that you take Viagra on and empty stomach. How long ago did you get the seeds? You may need some healing time. Are you pumping?

Cajun jeff
9/08 PSA 5.4 referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3+4=7 1 positive core in 12 1% cancer core
10/08 Nerve-Sparing open radicalSurgery Path Report Downgrade 3+3=6 GS Stage pT2c margins clea
r3 month: PSA <0.1
19th month: PSA <0.1
Only issue at this time is ED

Fairwind
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   Posted 10/24/2010 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
You will get the BEST effect from Viagra (100mg) if you chew one up on an empty stomach and wash it down with a glass of water...Wait about 15 minutes and give it a shot..

Many PC guys take 25mg Viagra every day (50mg cut in half) as a maintenance dose to improve blood flow to the penis..
Age 68.
PSA at age 55: 3.5, DRE normal. Advice, "Keep an eye on it".
age 58: 4.5
age 61: 5.2
age 64: 7.5, DRE "Abnormal"
age 65: 8.5, " normal", biopsy, 12 core, negative...
age 66 9.0 "normal", 2ed biopsy, negative, BPH, Proscar
age 67 4.5 DRE "normal"
age 68 7.0 third biopsy positive, 4 out of 12, G-6,7, 9
RRP Sept 3 2010, pos margin, one pos vesicle nodes neg. Post Op PSA 0.9

Jazzman1
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   Posted 10/24/2010 3:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Many PC guys take 25mg Viagra every day (50mg cut in half) as a maintenance dose to improve blood flow to the penis..

Jeez, Fairwind, who can afford that? Or do they just knock over pharmacies in their spare time?

Inquiring minds wanna know...

daveshan
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   Posted 10/24/2010 4:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Jazzman1,
Generic from alldaychemist, less than a buck a pill for 100mg. I also chew and swallow with water, it gives me that last 30-40%.
Diagnosed 12-09 age 55
07-06 PSA 2.5
01-08 PSA 5.5 (PCP did not tell me of increase or schedule follow-up!!!!)
09-09 PSA 6.5 Sent for consult with Urologist
11-09 Consult, scheduled for biopsy, found out about PSA from '08 (yes I was pissed)
12-09 Biopsy, initial Gleason 9 (4+5) later reduced to 8 with tertiary 5, ain't much but I'll take it.
01-10 Bone Scan, "appears negative"
03-01-10 RRP in Durango CO by Dr Sejal Quale and Dr Shandra Wilson, no naked eye evidence of spread, Vesicles and lymph nodes taken for microscopic exam.

03-16-10 Removal of cath' and pathology results of samples.
Multifocal carcinoma with areas of Gleason pattern 3, 4 and 5, Overall Gleason grade 4+4 with tertiary 5, Bilateral involving 21% of left lobe, 3% of right lobe, Invasion of left Seminal vesicle, Tumor focally present at left resection margin, 9 lymph nodes removed all negative, Tumor staging pT3b NO MX

04-23-10 PSA <0.04....... 06-07-10 PSA <0.04..... 08-03-10 <0.04
05-03-10 1 week without pads
06-28-10 ;-)

Fairwind
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   Posted 10/24/2010 4:22 PM (GMT -6)   
ADC (All Day Chemist) 100mg tabs @ around .60 each....Takes about 10 days to receive package.. Health food stores and most drug stores sell these neat little pill cutters...There is a thread on this board devoted to the subject..

Kolin6
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   Posted 10/24/2010 4:58 PM (GMT -6)   
daveshan
"Generic from alldaychemist, less than a buck a pill for 100mg. I also chew and swallow with water, it gives me that last 30-40%."

If you use this for the last 30-40%, (which pills?) what do you use for the first 60-70%?
I have had no luck with pills or injections so I thinking about a combination of both, but we want to be 'safe' Any advice would be appreciated.
Thank you.

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Cajun Jeff
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   Posted 10/24/2010 7:26 PM (GMT -6)   
No luck with injections? What have you tried..Caverject, Tri-Mix, or Bi-Mix. Did the Dr give you a test run in the office? Just like the pills some work better than others for diffferent people. if you give us some of that info we may be able to make suggestions.

Cajun jeff
9/08 PSA 5.4 referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3+4=7 1 positive core in 12 1% cancer core
10/08 Nerve-Sparing open radicalSurgery Path Report Downgrade 3+3=6 GS Stage pT2c margins clea
r3 month: PSA <0.1
19th month: PSA <0.1
Only issue at this time is ED

Ed C. (Old67)
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   Posted 10/24/2010 8:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Viagra is sold as Sildenafil citrate at the All Day Chemist web site.
Age: 67 at Dx on 12/30/08 PSA 3.8
2 cores out of 12 were positive Gleason (4+4)
Davinci surgery 2/9/09 Gleason 4+4 EPE,
Margins clear, nerve bundles removed
Prostate weighed 57 grams 10-20% involved
all PSA tests since (2, 5, 8, 11, 15, 18 months) undetectable
Latest PSA test (21 months) .005

daveshan
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   Posted 10/24/2010 10:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Kolin6 said...
daveshan
"Generic from alldaychemist, less than a buck a pill for 100mg. I also chew and swallow with water, it gives me that last 30-40%."

If you use this for the last 30-40%, (which pills?) what do you use for the first 60-70%?
I have had no luck with pills or injections so I thinking about a combination of both, but we want to be 'safe' Any advice would be appreciated.
Thank you.

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First 60-70%is natural, 50-100mg of generic Viagra does the rest. I would talk to your Dr before combining pills and injections.

needhelp1
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   Posted 10/25/2010 9:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Seeds done in October 2007, and no pumping. I'll try the 100mg chew procedure on the empty stomack. Sounds like a bigger headacke and stomack acke then swallowing whole. What is considered a empty stomack? How long after you, say, eat dinner at night.,

Warren
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   Posted 10/25/2010 10:33 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm a diabetic with ED problems so I can somewhat relate. I've tried Cialis, Viagra, and Levitra all at max doses and none of them work to give me an erection hard enough for intercourse. So I went to the Urologist and got myself on injection therapy. The needles are no big deal and being diabetic I didn't have a needle phobia; but for you newcomers, the BEST way to go is to use a BD ultrafine SHORT needle. Thats a 31g needle that is 5/8s of an inch...very short and extreemely thin... in some cases you won't even feel it go in.

So....I had read about this before I went to the Urologist and he was going to prescribe Caverject, that I could get at the pharmacy. I had read that the best results are from TRIMIX...which is what we ulimately tried. I went to a loca compounding pharmacy and they made it up for me.

The injection was a mild sting....but omg...the results were within 5 to 10 minutes. The dose was 50 cc's or 50 ml and I haven't had an erection so hard in YEARS. there as a bit of an ache at the injection site, but I can live with that. How long did the erection last.....45 mins the first time...at least an hour the 2nd time. and it seems to have a residual effect as I took it in the evening and was able to get a good hard erection the next morning.

The upshot of this is, stop playing around with orals if they don't work and just go try the injection therapy. It iwill totally give you back your sex life.

Fairwind
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   Posted 10/25/2010 10:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Do any of you guys have problems with "wet" (urine) ejaculations?? It seems surgery makes a mess of the entire plumbing system..

Jstars
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   Posted 10/25/2010 12:29 PM (GMT -6)   
The injection was a mild sting....but omg...the results were within 5 to 10 minutes. The dose was 50 cc's or 50 ml and I haven't had an erection so hard in YEARS. said...


Warren, yeeeow, whenever someone leaves off a decimal point on their Trimix injection amount I get visions of a 6" long full syringe and a needle the size of a basketball needle valve!!

Needless to say you were talking .50 cc (yeah the grading is 0-100 but it is just = 1 cc) -- .50 cc is still a giant amount. I guess you were lucky you did not get the old 4-8 hr erection that we here would love to have.

And NOW you know why all that whining to Mrs Grimshaw your crusty old high school chemistry teacher about "Why do I have to learn the Metric System -- I'M NEVER GONNA USE IT??!!" just fell on deaf ears.

Post Edited (JStars) : 10/26/2010 8:10:32 AM (GMT-6)


Warren
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   Posted 10/25/2010 2:21 PM (GMT -6)   
LOLOL oops....I stand corrected. I didn't realize it was a huge amount as I told the Urologist I couldn't get hard with the max dose of orals and wanted to get and stay hard for about an hour and thats what he prescribed. :::grins::: he must have prescribed on the heavy side, but it worked.

Anyway...I apologize for the lack of decimal point

Kolin6
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   Posted 10/25/2010 3:57 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm confused.
 
The needles I have been trying to use say 40,45,50, 55ML and and not
.04cc, .045cc, .05cc and so on, is it the same thing?
I have used up to 40ML of Bimix and all the stimulation, and the best I have got is about 80% and it only lasted a few minutes, but it remaineed 'semi' (50%) for a couple of hours.  I don't know if I should try more Bimix or not.  My Uro (Male Nurse practitioner) is not too forthcoming and is difficult to get an appointment with. 
 

Post Edited (Kolin6) : 10/25/2010 3:24:42 PM (GMT-6)


clocknut
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   Posted 10/25/2010 4:48 PM (GMT -6)   
40ml would be the equivalent of about one and a third ounces of liquid: more than a shot of whisky. In liquid measure, a ml equals a cc. I sure would not want to try to inject an ounce of liquid into into my private parts. Ouch!

There are about 30 ml in an ounce (roughly).

So, .04cc is the same thing as .04ml

If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. Bill
Age 65
Dx in June 2010.
PSA gradually rising for 3 years to 6.2
Biopsy confirmed cancer in 6 of 12 cores, all on left side
Gleason 7 (3 + 4)
Bone scan, CT scan, rib x-rays all negative.
DaVinci surgery late August at Advocate Condell, Libertyville IL
Negative margins; negative seminal vesicles
Smooth recovery; 18 holes of golf at 4 weeks.
Continence OK after 7 weeks. ED continues

MinnJimm
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   Posted 10/27/2010 1:27 PM (GMT -6)   

Rather

 Rather than start a new thread I decided to piggyback off this one.  I hope that doesn't break good forum manners.  Let me know if I should   have started a new thread.

 I am about 8 weeks out from daVinic surgery.   Last weekend I tried 50mg of Viagra and while the Penis appears to have blood rush to the area it was not enough to create an erection.

Should I try 100mg?

Injections question.  I have looked up information on administering the injections (just in case my doc wants to send me in that direction).  I noticed that the shot is to be administered about to the middle (lengthwise) of the member.  Now I am not circumcised so I have to pierce through the skin to get to the meat of the matter?   Needle phobia, anyone have similar situation and how that works for them.

Also, I am not scheduled to see my surgeon again ( saw post op following week) until December, about 12 weeks after surgery.  I have not had any follow-up PSA tests.  Is this Normal?  Or does my regular doc do all this, I see him next week?


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Age 63
2006 PSA - 3.0
6/2010 PSA 5.1
DX: Biopsy 7/2010
core sample 70% cancer Gleason 3+4 7
Di Vinci Operation 9/8/2010
Final Pathology 40% Cancer 3+4 Gleason
Lymph clear and seminal vessels clear

Paul1959
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   Posted 10/27/2010 3:48 PM (GMT -6)   
minnjimm
You do not inject through the foreskin, don't worry. If you want to see a video of a guy injecting, go to franktalk.org and under the "Treatments" page, go to Injections. At the bottom of that page is a guy demonstrating how to inject. It's really pretty good.
Paul
www.franktalk.org ED website for PCa guys

46 at Diagnosis.
Father died of Pca 4/07 at 86.
10/07 PSA 5.06 (Biopsy 11/07 1 of 12 with 8% involvment) (1mm)
Da Vinci surgery Jan 5, '08 at Mt. Sinai Hosp. NYC www.roboticoncology.com
Saved both nerve bundles.
Path Report: Stage T2cNxMx
-Gleason (3+3)6
Pad free on March 14 - (10 weeks.) Never a problem since.
ED - at one year, ED is fine with viagra.
Two year PSA - undetectable!

clocknut
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   Posted 10/27/2010 3:55 PM (GMT -6)   
MinnJimm,
My DaVinci was 8/20, so we're at about the same point in trying to get back to normal.  At my 6-week post--op, my uro gave me some sample 36-hour Cialis tabs which have had no observable effect at all.  I also went to the Cialis website and downloaded a coupon for a free 30-day supply of daily Cialis, which I'll take to the pharmacy with a prescription from my uro. 
 
I asked about other types of re-hab, and he said, not just yet. 
 
My wife thinks I'm beginning to show some signs of depression.  She says I hang out on this site too much, and I've basically lost almost interest in trying anything sexual until something wakes up down below, if it ever does.  The sessions we've had have lost most of the fun factors that I used to enjoy so much.  Oven the orgasm is generally a pale shadow of what it used to be.
 
My uro is also my surgeon, and I don't see him again until mid-January.  I haven't had a post-op PSA and am uneasy on that score also. 
 
Everybody around me marvels at my recovery and says I'm doing incredibly well, but I just don't feel it on the inside.  It's as if any last semblance of youthfulness has been taken from me.  I'm having trouble fallling asleep at night, and am just having trouble feeling like my old self.  Maybe a lot of guys go through this down phase, but I definitely need to work through it.
 
More pertinent to this current thread, I just can't imagine injecting myself.  I guess I might do it for my wife, but at this point I don't feel motivated to do it for me. 
 
On a more "up" note, I've been going "commando" all day (at least in terms of a pad) and have had no problems.  So, that's a plus.
 
 
Age 65
Dx in June 2010.
PSA gradually rising for 3 years to 6.2
Biopsy confirmed cancer in 6 of 12 cores, all on left side
Gleason 7 (3 + 4)
Bone scan, CT scan, rib x-rays all negative.
DaVinci surgery late August at Advocate Condell, Libertyville IL
Negative margins; negative seminal vesicles
Smooth recovery; 18 holes of golf at 4 weeks.
Continence OK after 7 weeks. ED continues

Cajun Jeff
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   Posted 10/27/2010 4:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Clocknut, I think most of us have had the depression and feeling of looking our youth. It beat the heck out of me for a while and still time I have to fight it. On the positive note I thought like you . No way am I going to stick a needle in willie. Believe me it is much easire than you can ever think. It was the first thing that made me feel like my youthful self. I guess you can now say I am a junkei for sex.
9/08 PSA 5.4 referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3+4=7 1 positive core in 12 1% cancer core
10/08 Nerve-Sparing open radicalSurgery Path Report Downgrade 3+3=6 GS Stage pT2c margins clea
r3 month: PSA <0.1
19th month: PSA <0.1
Only issue at this time is ED

LenB
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   Posted 10/27/2010 9:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Fairwind,
I get urine wet ejuculations also. I am still wet one year after surgery.

Len
Age: 65
DX: 7/10/09
Gleason: 7
Biopsey: 2 chips with some cancer cells out of 30.
Robotic Surgery: 9/10/09
Cath out: 9/23/09
1st post op PSA: 10/20/09 <0.1
2nd post op PSA:  1/25/10 <0.1
3rd post op PSA  4/19/10 <0.1
4th post op PSA  7/19/10 <0.1
As of 7/30/10 Still Wet 2 pads per 24 hr. period

teallen
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   Posted 10/29/2010 8:23 AM (GMT -6)   
I also have wet urine ejaculations.Hopeing it will go away with time. Recently have had set back in the ED area and hopeing erections will come back in time.
Age 42 PSA 7.4 4+4 G8
Davinci Sept.8 2010
No incontinence issues but ED issues

English Alf
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   Posted 10/29/2010 9:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Best way to have anything on an empty stomach (including viagra) is to take it first thing in the morning.


As for "cc" versus "ml" - If I can remember it all correctly then:

1cc = 1ml

cc = cubic centimetre (a cube 1cm X 1cm X 1cm or say the size of a coffee bean)
ml = millilitre (one thousandth of a litre and a teaspoonful is about 5ml)

The key difference is that, while they are both used for measuring volume, millilitres (and litres) are only used for liquids (and gases). (ie if someone said they had 10ml of gold it would need to me molten!)

The important thing though is to get the decimal point in the right place!!!
And as a safety measure: when you are meant to be using/taking/giving a small dose you should not be given a syringe with which you can give a large one (eg for circa 5ml you should get given 10ml syringes not 50ml or 100ml ones.) And for extra safety you should also be supplied the drug in several small phials/bottles and not one big one.

Alf

Post Edited (English Alf) : 10/29/2010 8:22:59 AM (GMT-6)


Kolin6
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   Posted 10/29/2010 7:07 PM (GMT -6)   
 Thanks English Alf for clearing that up.
 All my needles are in "ml" not "cc" and I was trying to find
out if .4 cc was the same as 40 ml. (on the needle)
P.S. Are you English (I am) or is that just a tag?  :-)

Post Edited (Kolin6) : 10/29/2010 6:20:12 PM (GMT-6)

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