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maldugs
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   Posted 12/14/2010 2:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi have read a few posts on pomegranate juice, how much do you take a day? would like to know.

Regards Mal.
age 67 PSA 5.8 DRE slightly firm Rt
Biopsy 2nd July 07 5 out of 12 positive
Gleason 3+4=7 right side tumour adenocarcinoma stage T2a
RP on 30th July,

Post op Pathology, tumour stage T3a 4+3=7, microcsopic evidence of capsular penetration, seminal vessels, bladder neck,are free of tumour, lymph nodes clear, no evidence of metastatic malignancy, tumour does not extend to the apical margins.

Post op PSA 0.5 26th Sept. Totally dry since catheter removed
PSA 23rd Oct.0.5 seeing Radiation Onocologist 31st Oct.
Started radiation treatment on 5th Dec, to continue until 24 Jan. 08.
Finished treatment, next PSA on 30th April.
PSA from 30th April 08, until now range- 0.5 to 0.6, I am now 70

Piano
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   Posted 12/14/2010 3:31 AM (GMT -6)   
A recent successful trial I saw reported used 8oz (presumably US fluid ounces). I take 200ml, which is a little less, but is the recommended serving size for my particular brew.

montee
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   Posted 12/14/2010 10:09 AM (GMT -6)   
Been drinking at least 6-8oz daily for 4 years

BillyMac
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   Posted 12/14/2010 2:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Mal,
As the other members said 8 fl oz was the recommended amount. Pretty close to 200 mls as Piano said. I get mine at Woolworths ------- brand is Bickfords and sells for about $5-00 a litre.
Bill

Piano
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   Posted 12/14/2010 2:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Informal survey: for those who have been taking it for more than a few months what has happened to your PSA in that time?

I started just three weeks ago, so it's too soon for me to report anything -- yet.

stevmac1
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   Posted 12/14/2010 3:05 PM (GMT -6)   
6 oz. daily. I found blueberry/pomegranate. Very good. Only been taking for 6 weeks.
steve

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   Posted 12/14/2010 4:19 PM (GMT -6)   
I have been taking 400 mg daily pill of pomegranate extract. I have also begun drinking 4-6 oz of juice daily. I really dislike the juice so I mix it with flavored seltzer or green tea. I'm on HT so I can't tell if there is any impact. BB
Dx PCa Dec 2008 at 56, PSA 3.4
Biopsy: T1c, Geason 7 (3+4) - 8 cores, 4 positive, 30% of all 4 cores.
Robotic Surgery March 2009 Hartford Hospital, Dr Wagner
Pathology Report: T2c, Geason 8, organ confined, negitive margins, lymph nodes negitive - tumor volume 9%, nerves spared, no negitive side effects of surgery.
PSA's < .01, .01, .07, .28, .50. HT 5/10. IMRT 9/10.
PSA's post HT .01, < .01

maldugs
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   Posted 12/14/2010 5:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the info, will get some today, and give it a try.


Regards Mal.
age 67 PSA 5.8 DRE slightly firm Rt
Biopsy 2nd July 07 5 out of 12 positive
Gleason 3+4=7 right side tumour adenocarcinoma stage T2a
RP on 30th July,

Post op Pathology, tumour stage T3a 4+3=7, microcsopic evidence of capsular penetration, seminal vessels, bladder neck,are free of tumour, lymph nodes clear, no evidence of metastatic malignancy, tumour does not extend to the apical margins.

Post op PSA 0.5 26th Sept. Totally dry since catheter removed
PSA 23rd Oct.0.5 seeing Radiation Onocologist 31st Oct.
Started radiation treatment on 5th Dec, to continue until 24 Jan. 08.
Finished treatment, next PSA on 30th April.
PSA from 30th April 08, until now range- 0.5 to 0.6, I am now 70

TaurusBull
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   Posted 12/14/2010 6:12 PM (GMT -6)   
I drink about 4 oz. of pom juice per day with my breakfast. Can't find the capsules anywhere.
Dx: in 6/2005, 49 yrs old (54 now), PSA 4.1, 2/10 cores pos, G6, T1c
bone scan: negative
daVinci RRP 8/2005, Hartford Hospital
Post-surgery upgraded G7 (3+4), pT2c, NX,MX, neg. margins, PNI present, tumor focally invades capsule wall, but not entirely through it.
PSA All <0.1 until... 7/2009 0.1, 10/2009 0.2, 1/2010 0.2, 2/2010 0.14, 4/2010 0.16, 8/2010 0.25, 9/2010 0.23, 12/2010 0.22

BB_Fan
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   Posted 12/14/2010 6:32 PM (GMT -6)   
You can order them from Life Extension. Google it. They sell on-line.
Dx PCa Dec 2008 at 56, PSA 3.4
Biopsy: T1c, Geason 7 (3+4) - 8 cores, 4 positive, 30% of all 4 cores.
Robotic Surgery March 2009 Hartford Hospital, Dr Wagner
Pathology Report: T2c, Geason 8, organ confined, negitive margins, lymph nodes negitive - tumor volume 9%, nerves spared, no negitive side effects of surgery.
PSA's < .01, .01, .07, .28, .50. HT 5/10. IMRT 9/10.
PSA's post HT .01, < .01

Willie B
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   Posted 12/14/2010 9:56 PM (GMT -6)   
After my diagnosis, my family spent a small fortune on POM juice and I drank 8oz per day.

Given my situation, I don't think it did a thing but I do believe that in certain situations, it may help delay some cancer growth due to the anti oxidant effects.

We bought a number of supplements/liquids/pills etc but in the grand scheme of things, possibly they were just nice distractions.

The jury is still out on many of these potential cures/slower of cell growth.......but when diagnosed, the fear is a great motivator.

I have since stopped taking them, except that my wife insists that I take calcium/Vitamin D and iron tabs.

FWIW, I quite enjoyed the pomegranate juice for about 6 months, then it got boring.

creed_three
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   Posted 12/14/2010 11:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Mal, I try to get my husband to drink 200ml per day but we both forget regularly. This is to be our new year's resolution! The reason he has 1 glass (200 ml) is cost only so good to see from others, this is more or less correct. cheers, Lana
Creed_three (Lana) - with husband "CJ" now aged 52.5 yrs (49 years at diagnosis).
PSA (2002) 2.1. (2006) 3.5.  1 x 5% core of 12 positive at biopsy. Open Radical Prostatectomy with nerve sparing April 2007 Sydney, Australia. Gleeson 3 + 4 = 7. 2 x small multifocal lesions. Contained. Undetectable <.1 PSA since: June 2007-0.01, Oct 2007-0.02, April 2008-0.02: Oct 2008-0.03, Nov, 2008-0.02, April 2009-0.03, April 2010 - 0.03. 

pasayten
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   Posted 12/15/2010 1:20 AM (GMT -6)   
There is a clinical study involving pomegranate juice... My Uro was involved... I was not a participant, but I do take pomegranate extract tablets daily... Have not heard results of the trial yet...

http://www.cancer.gov/clinicaltrials/ft-UCLA-0507059-01
 
3/2007 - Dx 59 y/o - 12 point biopsy - Left 0/6 Right 1/6 Gleason 3+3 T1c
4/2007 - DaVinci RRP performed - Gleason 6 T2c Nx Mx
PSA 7/07 0.01, 6/08 0.02, 12/08 0.03, 10/09 0.13
11/09 Consult BCR and recommendation for SRT
1/2010 IMRT SRT started 32 sessions at 2 gys for 64 gys total.
6/2010 3 mth PSA post SRT = 0.02 :-)
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BuiDoi
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   Posted 12/15/2010 1:29 AM (GMT -6)   

The product is better taken as an extract, because the OPC components are more concentrated.

The effect is mirrored by those of products like OPC-3 or OPCXtra.

I take OPCXtra on a daily basis, and can not under-recommend it's benefits. ... .. . I suspect that Pomegranite would be no different.

 

When Dx'ed with PC, I started taking 6 serves a day, and started to see a PSA drop, just prior to  RP.   I know a friend who is fully controlling a cancer, just with OPC..  I think that he also has the Pomegranate extract as a side extra.

PS - After a year on OPC - Lower Cholesterol, Arthritis near cured or well under control, no colds etc...  Just feeling so much 'better'..

.

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Nov 2009 = First-PSA 5.3 @ 60yo - Asymptomatic - DRE-Non-Palpable
Jan-'10 = TRUS Bx DX - AC T1c - GS(3+3)=6 , 5 & 45% max., L-MidZone
May-'10 = RRP-Nrv-Spare
Post Op. GS(3+4)=7, 1.1cm3, Pos Margins, EPE (focal) Lateral Left
MI(xtensive) Post, Grade3 x 8mm
+8week PSA<0.01, ED-85%, Incont-30%
+16W PSA<0.01, ED -85%, Cont -5%
+17W First 'DRY' day. ED -90%
+26W ED -60%

Post Edited (BuiDoi) : 12/15/2010 2:49:29 PM (GMT-7)


BB_Fan
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   Posted 12/15/2010 9:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Sorry, what is "OPC"
Dx PCa Dec 2008 at 56, PSA 3.4
Biopsy: T1c, Geason 7 (3+4) - 8 cores, 4 positive, 30% of all 4 cores.
Robotic Surgery March 2009 Hartford Hospital, Dr Wagner
Pathology Report: T2c, Geason 8, organ confined, negitive margins, lymph nodes negitive - tumor volume 9%, nerves spared, no negitive side effects of surgery.
PSA's < .01, .01, .07, .28, .50. HT 5/10. IMRT 9/10.
PSA's post HT .01, < .01

BuiDoi
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   Posted 12/15/2010 2:58 PM (GMT -6)   
""OPCXtra is a super antioxidant drink mix made from a combination of six major sources of bioflavonoids. Four of the sources - Grape Seed Extract, Red Wine Extract, Pine Bark Extract and Green Tea Extract - supply a group of powerful antioxidant bioflavonoids called Oligomeric Proanthocyanidins (OPC). ""
 
Pomegranate is 'Just another source'  of these OPC's..  Are they any better?
I have no idea, but it frustrates me that some of these "Alternative Supplement" suppliers sell so many products that all claim to do the same thing.
 
At least with OPCXtra, you are getting OPC's from five Most-Common sources.
I would love it if they simply added Pomegranate as an additional 'Source'.
Why have multiple sources - because they all work slightly differently !
Many  OPC  products are based on just one source of OPC's like Grape-Seed, or Pomegranate.
 
So when you start to talk about these products, keep your eye open for things like  Resveratrol, OPC-3, OPCXtra, Pomegranate Extract, Purple Defence, The French Paradox, The Mediteranian Diet.
 
Have a look at this as an introduction to the bio-chemistry.
 and for a list of references
 
 
 
""Most prostate cancers are slowly developing tumors and premalignant or early malignant lesions are therefore possible targets for non-toxic chemopreventive agents. Flavonoids, to which OPC are closely related, exert an effect on prostate cells through different mechanisms such as interference with mitogenic signaling mediated by steroid or growth factor receptors or binding proteins [1618].

In the present study, we show that OPC has an antiproliferative and pro-apoptotic effect in three prostate cancer cell lines. We showed that AR expression in LNCaP cells is reduced by 50% by OPC.""

OligomericProanthocyanidinComplexes (OPC)Exert Anti-Proliferative and Pro-Apoptotic Effects on ProstateCancerCells

Hannes Neuwirt,1 Mercedes Cedeno Arias,1 Martin Puhr,1 Alfred Hobisch,2 and Zoran Culig1

The Prostate 68:1647^1654 (2008)

Post Edited (BuiDoi) : 12/15/2010 2:26:06 PM (GMT-7)


Newporter
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   Posted 12/15/2010 3:07 PM (GMT -6)   
I found the following information after doing some searches:

The Phase II Clinical Trail by Dr. Pantuck of UCLA reported in 2006 that of the participants who had bio-chemical recurrence, post surgery PSADT lengthened from 15 months to 54 months with the consumption of 8 oz of pomegranate juice a day. In a continuation report at the 2009 Annual Scientific Meeting of the American Urological Association, for those men who continued on the treatment to 60 months, their PSADT lengthened to 88 months!

There are currently two clinical trials on pomegranate juice, one, a Phase III double blind is a continuation of the above Phase II, the other a Phase I studying the effect of pomegranate juice before surgery:

1) Pomegranate Extract in Treating Patients With Rising Prostate-Specific Antigen Levels After Surgery or Radiation Therapy for Localized Prostate Cancer. ClinicalTrials.gov Identifier: NCT00336934

2) A Study Of the Effectiveness Of Pomegranate Pills in Men With Prostate Cancer Before Prostatectomy. ClinicalTrials.gov Identifier: NCT00719030

There are also a number of scientific articles regarding pomegranate extract on prostate cancer at the cellular level that showed positive results of cancer cell kill.
65 Dx June-2010 PSA: 10.7, biopsy: Adenocarcinoma, 1 core Gleason 6, 3 cores atypia; Clinical stage T2; CT, Bone Scan, MRI all negative

8-23-10 Robotic RP; Pathology: Negative margins; Lymph nodes, Seminal Vesicle clear; PNI present; multiple Adenocarcinoma sites Gleason 3+3 with tertiary Gleason grade 4. Stage: pT2,N0,Mx,R0

Catheter out 8-30-10 full continent partial potency. Sept PSA: <.1

BuiDoi
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   Posted 12/15/2010 3:29 PM (GMT -6)   
GREAT - This is proof ( or a bloody good reason to BELIEVE ) for what is being suggested in the Hannes Neuwirt study.

IF - you consume OPC's you might prevent PC and other cancers
IF - you can get to PC early - you can possily control it
IF - you have it, you can reduce it's impact and
IF - you have HAD it, then you have better chance of controlling Met's etc. before they get started.  (  A Preventative  Plan-B  )
 
Do NOT limit your thinking to Pomegranate..  Things are much more general, and I suspect that researchers are going with Pomegranate as it's a single source.  ..  Were they to use a multi-source, then they would never be certain , which component might have done the trick..
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Post Edited (BuiDoi) : 12/15/2010 2:43:03 PM (GMT-7)


mr bill
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   Posted 12/15/2010 7:42 PM (GMT -6)   
You can buy the OPC on ebay for around 28.00. If purchased from online store it runs around 38.00.
I have been using it for the past couple of months.  In the end it all comes down to - it is easier to say why I did than why I didn't.

James C.
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   Posted 12/16/2010 8:14 AM (GMT -6)   
What about a concentrate, reconstitutes to 6 8 oz. servings?

www.swansonvitamins.com/DYH019/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL406

Seems pretty cheap this way. Wonder if the benefits carry over from full liquid to a concentrate?
James C. Age 63
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4/07: PSA 7.6, 7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS6
9/07: Nerve Sparing open RRP, Path: pT2c, 110 gms., all clear except:
Probable microscopic involvement of the left apical margin -GS6
3 Years: PSA's .04 each test until 04/10-.06, 09/10-.09- Uh-Oh, next in Feb.
ED-total-Bimix 30cc

stevmac1
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   Posted 12/16/2010 1:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Funny, in small letters, pom juice looks like **** juice. I need glasses...
sbs
50 Yrs. old. DX Feb, 2010 w/6.6 PSA.
Biopsy 04-24-10, Gleason 3+3=6
4 of 5 cores left side inv. 4 of 6 rt side
RRP 06-07-10....
16 days post-op, catheter out.
Gleason upgraded to 3+4
Totally continent @ 8 weeks post-op. (!!!)
1st post-op PSA @ 12 weeks - Less than 0.05
2nd " " " @ 6 months - Less than 0.05

BuiDoi
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   Posted 12/16/2010 1:28 PM (GMT -6)   
James C. said...
What about a concentrate, reconstitutes to 6 8 oz. servings?

Seems pretty cheap this way. Wonder if the benefits carry over from full liquid to a concentrate?
The thing to do is to step back and look at the ENTIRE picture.
What the hell is Pomegranate Juice?  Why the fuss - What is special - What is in it - How does it work..?
 
The reality would seem to be that it is just the 'latest' development in the chain of known sources of Bio-flavanoids and Anti-Oxidants/OPC's etc.
Not for a second, am I running it down, but for some years now, we have seen the heavy study into why we have the 'French paradox" and the "Mediteranian Diet".
 
It started many hundreds of years ago when Indians discovered the dramatic healing properties of a tea made from the bark of Pine-Trees.
It cured a great many ailments of the early sea-farers.
 
It was finally discovered that the matter that gave the benefits was this OPC chemical series, and later it was discovered that other "Old-Wives" remedies had similar benefits  eg.  Green Tea,  and Wine, Olive-Leaves, etc..
When these were analised, they discovered the same group of chemicals - OPC's..  The picture is starting to come together now.
Meanwhile , health practioners are spruking about the benefits of natural/organic HIGHLY colored vegetables..  Again it's the OPC's that are the main 'healers' within these plants.  I could go on but I won't..
 
Pomegranate is just ONE of thousands of foods that exhibit these chemicals, that are good for us, and largely work by attacking the nasties - the free-radicals, that are associated with illness and cancer etc.
So we then need a measure of how to gauge this effectives..  Enter  ORAC
Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity (ORAC) of Selected Foods
http://www.ars.usda.gov/SP2UserFiles/Place/12354500/Data/ORAC/ORAC_R2.pdf
 
NOW - we have a quantification of which foods provide the MOSTEST benefit..
 
So when you look at Pomegranate Juice, just read  ORAC benefit, OPC content etc. etc.  and enjoy the flavor.
When we talk of these products , we find that there are MANY professing to have the same properties.. We have the original Pycnogenol, and OPC-3 and OPCXtra, and Resveratrol, Olive-Leaf Extract etc.etc.etc. etc.
What WE firstly need is the beneficial components, if we can get them, and then a convenient  delivery method.
 
Enter eg.  OPCXtra..   It is sold as a powder and when mixed with the right amount of water, becomes an IsoTonic mixture, meaning that it is the same partial pressures (?) of chemicals in the blood.  This means that it can be absorbed into the gut within minutes, and hence avoid being altered by stomach contents, and have the ORAC benefits reduced.
 
So - back to your question  "What about a reconstitute drink",
well I say - what are you taking - a drink or the OPC's contained in it.
 
You want a convenient source of OPC's.   The two best know ones are the OPC-3 and the OPCXtra products..  OPC-3 is sold by Market-America ,  and  OPCXtra by  OPCXtra
 
Key Ingredients Found In Isotonix OPC-3?:   $70/300Gms
Grape Seed Extract : 25 mg
Red Wine Extract: 25 mg    
Pine Bark Extract (Pycnogenol?)    25 mg
Bilberry Extract : 25 mg
Citrus Extract (Bioflavonoids): 25 mg.

Key Ingredients found in OPCXtra :   $40/300gms
Grape Seed Extract
30mg
Red Wine Extract
30mg
Pine Bark Extract
30mg
Bilberry Extract 30mg
Green Tea Extract
30mg
Citrus Extract Bioflavonoids
30mg
Vitamin C
30mg
Vitamin E
15iu

From there you can head in all directions looking at Resveratrol, and Anti-Oxidants, and Pomegranate Extract.
BUT - From my understanding, we are talking about all the same technology and processes.

Sorry for the long response,  but I could go on !
 
ANYONE - with Cancer or having had cancer, would be most wise to investigate this field of research..  IMHO   (but what would I know?)
 
I only wish that the extracts of Pomegranate were added to my OPCXtra !
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Post Edited (BuiDoi) : 12/16/2010 2:55:15 PM (GMT-7)


Purgatory
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   Posted 12/16/2010 1:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Considering there is no 100% proof on the POM subject, amazed at how many buy into it. Again, no harm will come from drinking it, its making another industry rich from exploiting the fears of cancer victims, desperate to do something to help themselves As my GP told me more than once, all guys do is make expensive urine. I am sure most wont agree with this opinion.

david in sc
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos marg
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 11/10 Not taking it
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, 21 Catheters, Ileal Conduit Surgery 9/23/10

BuiDoi
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   Posted 12/16/2010 2:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Purgatory said...
Considering there is no 100% proof on the POM subject, amazed at how many buy into it. Again, no harm will come from drinking it,.....
david in sc
David you are right, but there is such a large amount of formal research, almost proving the basis behind "The French paradox"  and  "The Mediterranean Connection".
 
VERY, VERY few docs will even acknowledge the claimed benefits of the Anti-Oxidants/OPC's that are behind the true facts.
They won't admit it because it is not "Conventional Medicine" and their Insurance will not cover Law-Suits from patients who consider that their "Treatment Failed".
At under $40 for three months 'Protection' , the stuff that I use (OPCXtra) is great value and both the Bride and I and many family members/friends can guarantee it's benefit for Arthritis. We cannot prove other benefits, but we know that the crunching in the knees has gone when walking up steps.  The bride can now thread a needle, which previously she could not even hold , because she could not even make a fist..  Now - she can punch my lights out !
When you believe in those results, then you can read the official medical research and think that they may be very correct or just a bit correct.
 
I repeat a previous comment - I have personally seen the results on a Brain-Cancer being sent into remission.  YES - it may be a miracle, or it might be a placebo effect, but it IS happening and it might be coincidence that the chap is taking 6 doses of OPC each day.  
We can only say 'Bar-Humbug' for just so long..  IF you have a problem NOW - you want answers NOW.
I know that this is what the QUAKS have prayed upon for decades, but there IS medical proof that there is substance to these claims for Anti-Oxidants and OPC's...
 
PS - Do you think that the USDA would go to the trouble of measuring the ORAC value of most common foods, if they really thought that it was all "Bar-Humbug" stuff..
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Post Edited (BuiDoi) : 12/16/2010 1:44:24 PM (GMT-7)


Piano
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   Posted 12/16/2010 2:43 PM (GMT -6)   
James C. said...
What about a concentrate, reconstitutes to 6 8 oz. servings?
I suspect a lot of "juice" is reconstituted from concentrate. My juice is imported from Turkey and reconstituted locally -- just happens to be what is in our local supermarket. As with a lot of juices, there is no sense in shipping excess water long distances. My labeling says "100% Pomegranate juice" then in small print "(from concentrate").

So I expect if you can find concentrate, that will be just as good as the "real thing" -- whatever that is. :-)
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