Injections - Your gonna want to read this one

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badcard10
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   Posted 12/14/2010 5:05 PM (GMT -6)   
 
Bredren I have an important question or two.  OK - first I am learning to inject and have probably done it 10-15 times succesfully.  I got in a rush the other night when the "moment" arrived and was not paying attention when I filled the syringe and did not push it in the vial far enough and all I got was 2.5 of air in the syringe and yes, I then injected it into the left side of "Jr".  No results at all, and then realizing what I had done I refilled a different syringe and injected the right side with good results.
 
What do you think bros?  Am I in mortal danger? Where did the air go? Are you impressed that I charged ahead into intimacy without a thought to my own personal safety? I can joke about it now as it has been 2 weeks ago.
 
Also I seem to be getting some little hard lumps on the underside of "Jr"...
Like a cyst or 2 or something.  What about this scar tissue and injection issue? How does the scar tissue manifest itself?
 
Bros any input at all here would be great. This forum has been a lifesaver.
 
Thankyou.
 

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Paul1959
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   Posted 12/14/2010 6:00 PM (GMT -6)   
You'll live!  But pretty good story!  There is absolutely no danger in injecting some air into tissue.  The corpus is really a spongy tissue and not a complete water balloon of blood. In order to get an embolus from this, you would need to inject far more than one syringe of air directly into a vein - and it would have to be pretty close to the heart or lungs at that.
We all know the urban legend of people dying of air being injected, but it's not true. many nurses even manage to put a bubble at the plunger end of the syringe in order to get all the medicine through the needle and into the tissue.
 
But, wow...I'm impressed at the libido that caused you to plunge into the fray with no thought of your own welfare. But I do realize, it was a job that had to be done - and you were the right guy at the right time. Thank you for your heroics
Paul

Cajun Jeff
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   Posted 12/14/2010 6:13 PM (GMT -6)   
The thing we do to do the Job....I must say I laughed when you said that you "charged ahead into intimacy without a thought to my own personal safety!" Your a good man to investigate that for us. Hope you penis fall off before Christmas.

As for the lump I think a call to your Uro might be in order. Thanks for the laugh.,

Cajun Jeff
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Purgatory
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   Posted 12/14/2010 7:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Jeff, you are just jealous that he got some, lol
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Piano
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   Posted 12/14/2010 8:11 PM (GMT -6)   
I remember one time just after needle insertion, I dropped the syringe. Yikes! I didn't do that again smhair

This is an interesting topic that has a serious side too.

I always took care to get all bubbles out of the injectable and also to make sure there was no air in the syringe. Turns out that care might have been misplaced.

If air is good as Paul said, I can see a case for leaving .1ml of air at the end of the syringe, and not to worry about the bubbles. If you inject with the plunger end of the syringe higher so that the big bubble rises, you achieve the mission of getting all that maybe expensive injectable to where it oughta go, and not waste any by leaving up to about .1ml in the syringe. What is left in the syringe will be air.

Let's hope the air we do inject is sterile shocked

Cajun Jeff
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   Posted 12/14/2010 9:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Thats right David. Envy for sure. :)

Cajun Jeff
9/08 PSA 5.4 referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3+4=7 1 positive core in 12 1% cancer core
10/08 Nerve-Sparing open radicalSurgery Path Report Downgrade 3+3=6 GS Stage pT2c margins clea
r3 month: PSA <0.1
19th month: PSA <0.1
2 year PSA <0.1
Only issue at this time is ED but getting better

Paul1959
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   Posted 12/15/2010 5:59 AM (GMT -6)   
LOL - now wait a minute - i didn't say air was good! haha don't start injecting air, please!
It won't hurt you. the worst it will do is cause some bruising. On a regular basis, injected air into your penis could cause some bruising and discomfort.
Air won't kill you, or even put you in any danger of that. a tiny bubble at the plunger end is a useful tool for nurses. for us regular guys, just stick to the basics. in the end, don't freak about air.
hmmm...what if everyone started injecting with just air? isn't that sort of an inflatable penis? LOL Who needs an implant? Piano..you're on to something there.
Paul
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Worried Guy
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   Posted 12/15/2010 6:59 AM (GMT -6)   
I thought, like a fuel injector, any amount of air in the system was bad. I waste a lot of time working to get the last bubble out of the tube. Now I won't sweat that one tiny bubble in the corner.
This is great infomation!
Thanks!
Jeff
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