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tatt2man
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   Posted 1/24/2011 10:10 AM (GMT -6)   
interesting article and approach to dealing with death and dying ...

www.thestar.com/living/article/926305--the-new-stages-of-grief
Age: 55 - gay with spouse of 14 years, Steve
location: Peterborough, Ontario, Canada
PSA: 10/06/09 - 3.86
Biopsy: 10/16/09- 6 of 12 cancerous samples, Gleason 7 (4+3)
Radical Prostatectomy: 11/18/09
Pathology: pT3a -Gleason 7 -extraprostatic extension -perineural invasion -prostate weight -34.1 gm
PSA: 04/08/10 -0.05 -Zero Club
PSA: 09/23/10 -0.05 -Zero Club
PSA: 03/12/11 - TBA

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   Posted 1/24/2011 4:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Good article.
 
Thanks.

Cajun Jeff
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   Posted 1/24/2011 4:49 PM (GMT -6)   
This is a very informative and good article.

Thanks
Cajun jeff
9/08 PSA 5.4 referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3+4=7 1 positive core in 12 1% cancer core
10/08 Nerve-Sparing open radicalSurgery Path Report Downgrade 3+3=6 GS Stage pT2c margins clea
r3 month: PSA <0.1
19th month: PSA <0.1
2 year PSA <0.1
Only issue at this time is ED but getting better

60Michael
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   Posted 1/24/2011 4:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Bronson. Good article although like they said, it is not cut and dry and we each grieve differently. After helping care for both our parents durin the last 2-3 years I did get to the point of burnout, which PCa complicated greatly. Never told either parent about my reoccurance. But lost Dad in June and Mom the second day of this month and her death brought a finality that has hit me like a ton of bricks. So, not really sure where I would be on their spectrum as it just has not gotten better since the funeral. It will with time however.
Michael
Dx with PCA 12/08 2 out of 12 cores positive 4.5 psa
59 yo when diagnosed, 61 yo 2010
Robotic surgery 5/09
Gleason upgraded to 3+5, volume less than 10%
2 pads per day, 1 depends but getting better,
started ED tx 7/17, slow go
Post op dx of neuropathy
T2C left lateral and left posterior margins involved
3 months psa.01, 6 month psa.4
Started IMRT Jan. 2010 72gys
7month post SRT PSA .2

Purgatory
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   Posted 1/24/2011 5:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Good article, I printed it off.

Thanks, Bronson
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos marg
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 11/10 Not taking it
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, 21 Catheters, Ileal Conduit Surgery 9/23/10

tatt2man
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   Posted 1/24/2011 7:07 PM (GMT -6)   
You are more than welcome, guys.... we have all gone through our own interpretation of the original 5 levels of grief regarding PCa..... and unfortunately, as we age, experience versions of this new interpretation....

Fourteen years ago, I lost my first companion to septic shock and respiratory failure. In hindsight, this played out as many levels of grief while he was in ICU and after the fact... the hurt does not go away, but changes with age...

My condolences to you Michael on the lost of your Mom and Dad.. it must have been hard to keep your reoccurance to yourself - even at this age we are still our parents' children ... and that little inner child wanting to say, " Mommy, I hurt..."

Wishing you all love and support during your journey and exploration of life, loves and may laughter brighten those days that seem too dark for words.

hugs,
BRONSON

p.s. HOORAH - while writing this, the kitchen pipes that were frozen for two days are now running - opened up the cupboard and the side cabinet to expose the false wall and get heat in with electric heater ....
Age: 55 - gay with spouse of 14 years, Steve
location: Peterborough, Ontario, Canada
PSA: 10/06/09 - 3.86
Biopsy: 10/16/09- 6 of 12 cancerous samples, Gleason 7 (4+3)
Radical Prostatectomy: 11/18/09
Pathology: pT3a -Gleason 7 -extraprostatic extension -perineural invasion -prostate weight -34.1 gm
PSA: 04/08/10 -0.05 -Zero Club
PSA: 09/23/10 -0.05 -Zero Club
PSA: 03/12/11 - TBA

Post Edited (tatt2man) : 1/24/2011 8:48:53 PM (GMT-7)


Ralph Alfalfa
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   Posted 1/24/2011 7:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, Bronson.  Good article as it becomes more relevant to those of us advancing in years.  This is  a wake-up call to all who haven't gotten their ducks in a row while you still have the mental capability to do so.  If changes are needed in the future, that can be done.  Get a good lawyer to write it up now, before the bickering begins.
 
I lost my mother 2 years ago and we thought Dad wouldn't see Christmas.  We were all preparing for the funeral and the doctors finally got his meds right and he's doing ok now.  But the supposing of his passing was a slap in the face as we were prematurely coming to terms with his dying.  The part about the lingering process is right on.  My father-in-law lasted for two years with metastatic renal cancer and every day we woke up thinking,"Is today the day?"  I got the feeling that a few in the family breathed a sigh of relief when that day came.  Sad.  It is one thing to feel empathy for the stricken, another to wish it over.  Sorry to ramble.  But this article hit close to home.
 
As far as fozen pipes are concerned, since you have both cold and hot water available now, just drizzle it into a tub during the cold spells and you should keep the water going.  If the sewer line is not in a heated area, plug the tub.  Your water bill might go up but if you plug the tub you can use a bucket to transfer the water to the washing machine and use it for cold water washes.  Finally, a subject I can deal with.  Had lots of experience here.
 
Bob

Post Edited (Ralph Alfalfa) : 1/24/2011 7:13:37 PM (GMT-7)

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