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F8
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   Posted 2/8/2011 12:27 PM (GMT -6)   
there are conflicting opinions and studies on how consuming soy products interacts with prostate cancer.  i eat tofu, bean sprouts and edamame beans regularly.  i also drink a soy based protein drink.  what do you think?
 
ed 
age: 55
PSA on 12/09: 6.8
no symptoms, no prostate enlargement
12/12 cores positive....gleason 3+4 = 7
HT, BT and IGRT
received 3rd and last lupron shot 9/14/10

Purgatory
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   Posted 2/8/2011 12:34 PM (GMT -6)   
I have no opinion on this subject, I personally do not use any soy products. Did see this article:

http://prostatecancer.about.com/od/riskfactors/a/soyprostate.htm
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos marg
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 11/10 Not taking it
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, 21 Catheters, Ileal Conduit Surgery 9/23/10

proscapt
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   Posted 2/8/2011 1:21 PM (GMT -6)   
A study published by UCSF reviewed all the evidence pro/con and ended up recommending one or more servings of soy per day, but not soy extracts or supplements.

see cancer.ucsf.edu/_docs/crc/nutrition_prostate.pdf page 26-28.

BB_Fan
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   Posted 2/8/2011 3:07 PM (GMT -6)   
I take soy ivoflavones daily 2 400 mgs tablets.
Dx PCa Dec 2008 at 56, PSA 3.4
Biopsy: T1c, Geason 7 (3+4) - 8 cores, 4 positive, 30% of all 4 cores.
Robotic Surgery March 2009 Hartford Hospital, Dr Wagner
Pathology Report: T2c, Geason 8, organ confined, negitive margins, lymph nodes negitive - tumor volume 9%, nerves spared, no negitive side effects of surgery.
PSA's < .01, .01, .07, .28, .50. HT 5/10. IMRT 9/10.
PSA's post HT .01, < .01

BB_Fan
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   Posted 2/8/2011 3:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Also, eat soy beans, soy dogs and veggie burgers with soy, as well as tofu when I can get it prepared for me. Other than the ivoflavones, I usually only get 1 or less servings a day via diet. Everying that I have read indicates soy is good in the battle against PCa.
Dx PCa Dec 2008 at 56, PSA 3.4
Biopsy: T1c, Geason 7 (3+4) - 8 cores, 4 positive, 30% of all 4 cores.
Robotic Surgery March 2009 Hartford Hospital, Dr Wagner
Pathology Report: T2c, Geason 8, organ confined, negitive margins, lymph nodes negitive - tumor volume 9%, nerves spared, no negitive side effects of surgery.
PSA's < .01, .01, .07, .28, .50. HT 5/10. IMRT 9/10.
PSA's post HT .01, < .01

F8
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   Posted 2/8/2011 3:56 PM (GMT -6)   
 
thanx for the info guys.  here's the study that concerned me:
 
 
i know michael milkin is a proponent of soy and he is one who has defied the odds.  sounds like if i just keep doing what i'm doing i'll be fine.
 
ed
 
 
age: 55
PSA on 12/09: 6.8
no symptoms, no prostate enlargement
12/12 cores positive....gleason 3+4 = 7
HT, BT and IGRT
received 3rd and last lupron shot 9/14/10

Ed C. (Old67)
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   Posted 2/8/2011 4:54 PM (GMT -6)   
I used soy milk with my cereal.
Age: 67 at Dx on 12/30/08 PSA 3.8
2 cores out of 12 were positive Gleason (4+4)
Davinci surgery 2/9/09 Gleason 4+4 EPE,
Margins clear, nerve bundles removed
Prostate weighed 57 grams 10-20% involved
all PSA tests since (2, 5, 8, 11, 15, 18, 21 months) undetectable
Latest PSA test (2 years) <.008 ?

Fairwind
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   Posted 2/8/2011 6:48 PM (GMT -6)   
I bought some Black Cohosh pills (health food store) as a remedy for hot flashes recommended by several female friends..It is loaded with Phytoestrogens ....

But I remember reading somewhere on this board that these compounds, in PC patients, MIGHT have opposite the intended effect..That PC cells may be stimulated by them instead of suppressed..My Black Cohosh remains unused..
Age 68.
PSA at age 55: 3.5, DRE normal. Advice, "Keep an eye on it".
age 58: 4.5
" 61: 5.2
" 64: 7.5, DRE "Abnormal"
" 65: 8.5, " normal", biopsy, 12 core, negative...
" 66 9.0 "normal", 2ed biopsy, negative, BPH, Proscar
" 67 4.5 DRE "normal"
" 68 7.0 third biopsy positive, 4 out of 12, G-6,7, 9
RALP Sept 3 2010, pos margin, one pos vesicle nodes neg. Post Op PSA 0.9 SRT, HT NOW

F8
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   Posted 2/8/2011 7:25 PM (GMT -6)   
black cohosh sounds like something i'd have to give up my clean date for cool .
 
ed
 
 
age: 55
PSA on 12/09: 6.8
no symptoms, no prostate enlargement
12/12 cores positive....gleason 3+4 = 7
HT, BT and IGRT
received 3rd and last lupron shot 9/14/10
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