Forget the PSA / Buy a Dog to check for PC

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Jerry L.
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   Posted 2/8/2011 2:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Probably old news, but apparently dogs can sniff out PC:
 
...Urine was obtained from 66 patients referred to an urologist for elevated prostate-specific antigen or abnormal digital rectal examination. All patients underwent prostate biopsy and two groups were considered: 33 patients with cancer and 33 controls presenting negative biopsies. The dog completed all the runs and correctly designated the cancer samples in 30 of 33 cases. Of the three cases wrongly classified as cancer, one patient was re-biopsied and a PCa was diagnosed. The sensitivity and specificity were both 91%....
 
 
 
I wonder if they can sniff out recurrance...
Nov. 2009 Dx at Age 44
Dec. 2009 DaVinci Robotic Surgery
Jan. 2010 T3b, Gleason 9
Feb. 2010 Adjuvant Radiation

PSA History:
-----------------
Nov. 2009 4.30
Feb. 2010 <.05
May 2010 <.05
Aug. 2010 <.05
Nov. 2010 <.05

Kongo
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   Posted 2/8/2011 2:37 PM (GMT -6)   
You probably don't want the dog doing you're next DRE.

Casey59
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   Posted 2/8/2011 2:45 PM (GMT -6)   
See attached photo of the newest employee at your Urologist's office demonstrating the new test procedure.
 


John T
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   Posted 2/8/2011 2:47 PM (GMT -6)   
You just might want a CAT scan to confirm the DOG sniff.
65 years old, rising psa for 10 years from 4 to 40; 12 biopsies and MRIS all negative. Oct 2009 DXed with G6 <5%. Color Doppler biopsy found 2.5 cm G4+3. Combidex clear. Seeds and IMRT, no side affects and psa .1 at 1.5 years.

Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 2/8/2011 3:32 PM (GMT -6)   

Sixty Minutes and several other shows have done stories on these dogs. I think its pretty cool.

I have a weird looking mole of my left leg. Swear I've been sniffed there more then once by dogs. I mentioned it to my GP once and he almost feel out of his chair.... Then he looked at the mole and gave some specific name for it and told me not to worry unless I couldn't feel my toes....


Zen9
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   Posted 2/8/2011 3:47 PM (GMT -6)   

So let me see if I understand this correctly -

I'm supposed to get a dog and pee on it twice a year?

Zen9


Sunbird
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   Posted 2/8/2011 3:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Casey????  I can't figure out how you got a photo of my dog sniffing my mother in law's crotch!!!!! devil

Jerry L.
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   Posted 2/8/2011 9:41 PM (GMT -6)   
I wonder if ultrasensitive dogs can sniff out the 24 different types of PC.

Swimom
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   Posted 2/8/2011 11:44 PM (GMT -6)   
The photo is priceless! A little humor goes a long way on some days...thanks :>)
 Hilarem datorum diligit Deus

Tony Crispino
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   Posted 2/9/2011 12:42 AM (GMT -6)   
This group is a mess...That's all I have to say about that.

zufus
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   Posted 2/9/2011 6:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Jerry you pushed my buttons (LOL)....dogs and PCa. I divurge.
 
Yeah I met some of those types: Dr. Barkin', Dr. Sniffy Myers, even a rapper Dr. DRE.
Sort of rubbed noses with those types and if you ask for a second opinion you might hear you are 'rough-rough'...means you smell too. You won't believe their urine testing machines and locations, red cast iron thing sticking out of the ground, you lift a leg and leave a sample and everyone else can compare when they go by the device.
 
I have a video of a new doc in training Dr. Killdear, black lab is teaching reindeer's about how to analyze PCa patients. They jump from location to location. www.dogwork.com/ddsff4/    (watch video it is cute)
 
Caveat watch out for some dogs are the lapro types and jump right into your lap.  Some might even touch tongues for sampling your DNA prior to wagging an opinion.  I even had one hump my leg, might have been a new test for tri-mix and showing us the results???? 
Right now let's paws for the cause!!!! yeah    OK HERE IS THE ULTIMATE THERAPY:
 
Dr. Zufus's  group howling protocol, done twice a day prevents Elephantitus disease, see my youtube with my 2 australian shepherds, this was taken a few years back. My niece is the moderator/film maker. The dogs are Koby and Shaq and Dr. Zufus the alpha male with pack mentality and special alpha male dog hat upon his head....can you tell I ever did ADT3 drugs for PCa, for 2 years???  These side effects howling, iching are temporary.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SktIskrqqqmM           (enjoy- we all met Dr. Barkin too)
 
 

Post Edited (zufus) : 2/9/2011 7:01:46 AM (GMT-7)


Ziggy9
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   Posted 2/9/2011 11:34 AM (GMT -6)   
I never realized until today my German Shepherd is a part time urologist. He also appears to be a part time OB/GYN to my sister inlaw. His is an intelligent breed after all.

Jerry L.
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   Posted 2/9/2011 12:32 PM (GMT -6)   
I thought I was the only one with a warped sense of humor. Funny stuff.
Nov. 2009 Dx at Age 44
Dec. 2009 DaVinci Robotic Surgery
Jan. 2010 T3b, Gleason 9
Feb. 2010 Adjuvant Radiation

PSA History:
-----------------
Nov. 2009 4.30
Feb. 2010 <.05
May 2010 <.05
Aug. 2010 <.05
Nov. 2010 <.05
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