BillyMac -- wonderful post.
We have a crisis in America (at least Canada and the U.S.) where science, true science, is being dummed down in the classroom, sometimes because it is too difficult for the students. No wonder it's difficult --- they aren't taught the basics of such things as math. My 8 year old granddaughter goes to special home-school classes taught by a college professor on Saturday to learn the basics of addition, subtraction and multiplication. At her school it's all about the "concept of numbers" and if two and two equal five, that's fine (for now anyways) as no one should ever be wrong --- Lord knows what it might do to her confidence and self image. And so she's being dummed down to lowest common denominator. Thank God her parents are doing something to stop that.
In some places science is being dummed down because scientific fact doesn't suit the social mores of the community. Think of some countries where Canadian and U.S. soldiers are dying today.
What we're winding up with is a two tiered society that is condeming some youth to a lifetime of ignorance and poor decision making.
Which, BillyMac, leads me to your post.
One of the most promising fields of science is Nutraceuticals. Unfortunatly, a non-science educated society is busy cherry picking and interpreting results. An old friend is one of these. We had dinner with him and his wife last night and again listened to his bizzare ideas on diet and foods. He is sure his diabetic class instructor at the hospital doesn't know what she is talking about. Can you imagine! She hasn't read the latest Prevention Magazine, or watched the health food commercials on at 2 a.m. for the latest break through news.
In his case I think the subversion of science is because he's looking for an easy out to his weight and health issues. Somewhere there is this magic thing that will make the difference. It isn't about eating less and exercising more.
In other cases I think people introduce nutraceutical excesses into their lives and diets because it gives them a sense of control, it makes them proactive. I know someone who follows Kosher not, he says, for religious reasons so much as a discipline. It gives him strength knowing he has kept Kosher for 25 years. Following a particular diet to give yourself some control over some aspect of your life has to be a good thing. At least as long as it doesn't hurt you.
Sorry for such a long ramble, to those, if any, who have read this far. It is all background to my 'bottom line' thinking on this which is that our role here, for each other, be it treatment decisions, or diet ones, is to provide the science as best we can surrounding an issue, be a tad aggressive if a PCa brother is doing something that could be dangerous to their health (not going to see another doctor when their own doctor won't do a PSA, for example) and being supportive of people --- doesn't mean we agree, just supportive --- of PCa brothers when they make decisions.
All of this is also why I think BillyMac's post on sugar is a good one. It is strongly worded, based on sound science, but doesn't trip over into the realm of a personal, or critical, attack on a belief, or stance, of others. It only challenges by putting the science on the table.
Good on you, BillyMac
Sheldon AKA Sleepless
Age 67 in Apil '09 at news of 4 of 12 cores positive T2B and Gleason 3 + 3 and 5% to 25% PSA 1.5
Re-read of slides in June said Gleason 3 + 4 same four cores 5% to 15%
June 29 daVinci prostatectomy, Dr. Eric Estey, at Royal Alexandra Hospital Edmonton one night stay
From "knock out" to wake up in recovery less than two hours. Actual surgery 70 minutes
Flew home to Winnipeg on July 3 after 5 nights in Ramada Inn --- perfect recovery spot!
Catheter out July 9
Final pathology is 3 + 4 Gleason 7, clear margins, clear nodes, T2C, sugeron says report is "excellent"
Oct 1st 09 -- dry at night, during day some stress issues.
Oct 31st padless 24/7
First post op PSA Sept 09 less than 0.02
PSA on Oct 23, 2009 less than 0.02
PSA on Jan 8, 2010 less than 0.02
PSA on April 9, 2010 less than 0.02
PSA on July 9, 2010 (one year) less than 0.02