at around 18 months and still no improvement from 2 pads per day I figured thats the best I'll get. Went to uro to discuss options and he suggested medication before any major moves. I was hesitant but gave it a try. Results have been very good. One damp pad per 24 hours. Will go to a lower volume pad when this supply runs out. I use a prevail moderate now. In general your condtion at the 1 year point is where you going to be with some exceptions.
Did not know about the cap letter rule, thanks for tip.