Original oath of Hippocrates (Greek) approx. 400 B.C.~also weblink fun to kinetic-sculptor video

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zufus
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   Posted 2/21/2011 3:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Here is what I had in a google search on this:

THE OATH OF HIPPOCRATES

I SWEAR by Apollo the physician and Æsculapius, and Health, and All-heal, and all the gods and goddesses, that, according to my ability and judgment,

I will keep this Oath and this stipulation — to reckon him who taught me this Art equally dear to me as my parents, to share my substance with him, and relieve his necessities if required; to look upon his offspring in the same footing as my own brothers, and to teach them this art, if they shall wish to learn it, without fee or stipulation; and that by precept, lecture, and every other mode of instruction,

I will impart a knowledge of the Art to my own sons, and those of my teachers, and to disciples bound by a stipulation and oath according to the law of medicine, but to none others.

I will follow that system of regimen which, according to my ability and judgement, I consider for the benefit of my patients, and abstain from whatever is deleterious and mischievous.

I will give no deadly medicine to any one if asked, nor suggest any such counsel; and in like manner I will not give to a woman a pessary to produce abortion. With purity and with holiness I will pass my life and practice my Art.

I will not cut persons labouring under the stone, but will leave this to be done by men who are practitioners of this work. Into whatever houses I enter, I will go into them for the benefit of the sick, and will abstain from every voluntary act of mischief and corruption; and, further, from the seduction of females or males, of freemen and slaves. Whatever, in connection with my professional service, or not in connection with it, I see or hear, in the life of men, which ought not to be spoken of abroad,

I will not divulge, as reckoning that all such should be kept secret. While I continue to keep this Oath unviolated, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and the practice of the art, respected by all men, in all times. But should I trespass and violate this Oath, may the reverse be my lot.

-------------------------(For fun see this website for kinetic scupltor- it is amazing)

http://www.coolestone.com/media/1641/Kinetic-sculptor/       yeah

Post Edited (zufus) : 2/21/2011 1:51:59 PM (GMT-7)


Casey59
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   Posted 2/21/2011 4:02 PM (GMT -6)   
As an earlier promoter of lifestyle changes much later shown to slow prostate cancer progression (the "big three" changes being diet/nutrition, exercise and stress reduction), Hippocrates also said, “Let food be your medicine and medicine be your food.”

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   Posted 2/21/2011 10:58 PM (GMT -6)   
zufus,

is this a literal and exact rendering of the Oath?
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos marg
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 11/10 Not taking it
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, 21 Catheters, Ileal Conduit Surgery 9/23/10

zufus
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   Posted 2/22/2011 6:57 AM (GMT -6)   
This is considered a translation of the original into English. Here is a comment on the modern era today when reflecting on the original:
Modern Text described

Most of the schools that still retain the traditional oath use a modern version of the oath, as praying to Aesculapius and the other gods is no longer relevant, and no one swears anymore to split fees with his mentor. Also, it is no longer feasible to expect the doctor to teach in medical schools for free.... This version had been popular in the 1960's until the 1980's. When abortion and euthanasia became legal in many countries, the binding force of the oath ceased. So other forms of oath came to be. Needless to say, it is now impossible to unite the medical professionals under one ethical code of conduct. The medical body is badly split, just the way the Church is split... There are traditionalists, conservatives, and liberals.. But worse, there are...(I HAVE to STOP HERE-it might infringe on forum RULES)-google and read for yourselves if interested.
 
Always good to know where and how something got established and why. Then one can reflect on what are the real changes and maybe why. Then one could have an opinion based upon something. 

Post Edited (zufus) : 2/22/2011 5:01:36 AM (GMT-7)


Purgatory
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   Posted 2/22/2011 9:59 AM (GMT -6)   
thanks
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos marg
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 11/10 Not taking it
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, 21 Catheters, Ileal Conduit Surgery 9/23/10
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