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tatt2man
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   Posted 2/22/2011 2:47 PM (GMT -6)   

clocknut
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   Posted 2/22/2011 2:58 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't doubt that activity is beneficial.  It makes sense, and we all try to be active.
 
But, don't you sometimes wonder if the study might be confusing cause and effect?  Maybe the folks walk or exercise vigrorously because they feel healthy and have a lot of energy.  That's why they have a better survival rate:  they're healthier individuals to start with.
 
On the other hand, isn't it possible that the group who doesn't exercise avoids exercise because they aren't very healthy and aren't feeling well.  Naturally, they don't live as long because they were unwell to begin with.
 
When I feel really good, I exercise a lot.  When I don't feel so good, my activity level drops.
 
OK, I know that's backwards thinking, but sometimes I just wonder about these studies.
 
 

Jerry L.
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   Posted 2/22/2011 3:38 PM (GMT -6)   
If my math is right:

90 mins/week - 35% lower risk
180 mins/week - 61% lower risk

translates to:

360 mins/week - 106% lower risk

That means all PC problems are solved...
Nov. 2009 Dx at Age 44
Dec. 2009 DaVinci Robotic Surgery
Jan. 2010 T3b, Gleason 9
Feb. 2010 Adjuvant Radiation

PSA History:
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Nov. 2009 4.30
Feb. 2010 <.05
May 2010 <.05
Aug. 2010 <.05
Nov. 2010 <.05

F8
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   Posted 2/22/2011 3:46 PM (GMT -6)   
ahhh.   you can always count on the naysayers cool .
 
ed
 
 
age: 55
PSA on 12/09: 6.8
gleason 3+4 = 7
HT, BT and IGRT
received 3rd and last lupron shot 9/14/10
2/8/11 PSA <.1, T= 6 ng/dl

Jerry L.
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   Posted 2/22/2011 4:03 PM (GMT -6)   
F8,
 
I don't think I'm in the naysayer club.
 
I'm somewhere between 90-180/week and hope it makes some difference. 

clocknut
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   Posted 2/22/2011 4:06 PM (GMT -6)   

And I'm not a naysayer either. My wife and I exercise regularly.

My only point, and partially in jest, is that "studies" often can lend themselves to interpretations other than what we customarily expect (e.g., exercise promotes health, but health also promotes exercise).


F8
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   Posted 2/22/2011 4:07 PM (GMT -6)   
good for you Jerry.  if lifestyle changes have no other effect then helping me to have a positive outlook it's well worth it.
 
ed
age: 55
PSA on 12/09: 6.8
gleason 3+4 = 7
HT, BT and IGRT
received 3rd and last lupron shot 9/14/10
2/8/11 PSA <.1, T= 6 ng/dl

NEIrish
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   Posted 2/22/2011 6:41 PM (GMT -6)   

Sounds like a simpler summary of the study I posted on 1/10.  It started a 4 weeks activity challenge by another poster. 

Thank you for the reminder.  With March on it's way, it will be easier for the survivors north of the equator to get more walks and general outdoor activity in.  My husband, for one,  is sick of his snow shovel.

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