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davidg
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   Posted 3/1/2011 1:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Do any of you have any experience with these?

When i complained to my doctor about the incredibly high cost of these over here and how they're not covered by my incredibly expensive and useless health coverage his nurse chimed in and mentioned that many of their patients order online from Canada and that these are Indian in origin, and that al the patients claim they work just as well. Can anyone here confirm this?

My wife is in India and has purchased me a boatload but I don't like taking pills to begin with and am a little suspicious of the Indian stuff.

Someone here has already warned me about customs but I thought it was worth a try, specially if they arrest her.

Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 3/1/2011 1:58 PM (GMT -6)   

Many of the guys here get Viagra from:

http://www.alldaychemist.com/  (india)

For less then a dollar a pill.

 


F8
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   Posted 3/1/2011 2:02 PM (GMT -6)   
david -- i have good insurance too which also would not cover viagra.  had to file a request but they now cover four 100mg tabs of viagra a month but my copay is $30.
 
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Bitman
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   Posted 3/1/2011 2:54 PM (GMT -6)   
A friend of mine with PC told me about this place.
He buys his from them, with no problem, and says he can't tell the difference.

http://www.blueskydrugs.com/Product/Viagra
Age: 55- good health. Exercise now and then.
DRE 02/2011- no lumps, just enlarged prostate
PSA checked regularly last 8 years, ranged from 0.7 to 1.2
Needle Biopsy 02/2011- 12 samples. 10 OK.
GS 3+3=6 2 cores involving 5%
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Arnie
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   Posted 3/1/2011 3:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Like Steve, I've purchased the Indian equivalent of Viagra several times.......large quantities at a time (240 count)------no difference from Viagra-----but incredibly cheap $.58 per pill. For me, easy to order online, and 9 days from order to doorstep (East Coast here)
 
 
Arnie in DE
Age 56 (biopsy & surgery)-PSA-3.9-Biopsy 8/19/08--4 of 12 cores positive; 5% involvement, Gleason 6 (3+3) 1/26/09-DaVinci Prostatectomy at Presbyterian Medical Center/HUP-Phila, PA-Dr. David Lee
Path. Report- G7 (3+4)Adenocarcinoma, no capsular involvement, seminal vesicles clear, lymph nodes clear, negative margins
Continent at 3 mos.------ED improving
PSA at 2 yrs-<0.1

daveshan
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   Posted 3/1/2011 4:00 PM (GMT -6)   
My last order (Levitra) from ADC was here in about a week. Not problems and just as good as the expensive name brand stuff.
07-06 PSA 2.5
01-08 PSA 5.5
09-09 PSA 6.5
12-09 Biopsy, initial Gleason 9 (4+5) later reduced to 8 with tertiary 5
03-01-10 Age 55 RRP in Durango CO by Dr Sejal Quale and Dr Shandra Wilson
03-16-10 Path' G-8 (4+4+5) Bilateral involving 21% of left lobe, 3% of right lobe, SVI, Focal positive margin, pT3b NO MX

All PSA as of 1-25-11 <0.04

davidg
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   Posted 3/1/2011 4:05 PM (GMT -6)   
so Cialis is Tadafil, what's the generic for Viagra?

When I done witht he Indian batch my wife is bringing I'll order form here.

btw, Cialis works great for me and I like that I can go up to 40 hours with a 20mg pill. Any arguments for Viagra over Cialis?

Woodworker
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   Posted 3/1/2011 4:12 PM (GMT -6)   
It is tadalfil for Cialis and Vardenafil for Levitra. I can't remember what it is for Viagra. It takes me about 2-3 weeks to get an orde form All Day Chemist.  However, we usually order 12 - 15 different items.  The only difference I have noticed about the Indian meds is the cost.

Arnie
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   Posted 3/1/2011 4:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Alldaychemist version of Viagra is Sildenafil Citrate, which is what Viagra is......ADC calls their version "Manly" --ya gotta love it!
 
Arnie in DE

Magaboo
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   Posted 3/1/2011 4:47 PM (GMT -6)   
I can also vouch  for ADC. On the package it says:" Sildenafil Citrate",
for my orders of V.......a.
Great price for us Canadians, however, it takes about 2-3 weeks to receive the orders. Shipping cost for any size order is about $25 if I remember correctly. The total cost for a years supply came to about $75.
 
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Born 1936
PSA 7.9, Gleason Score 3+4=7, 2 of 8 positive
open RP Nov 06, T3a, Gleasons 3+4=7, Seminal vesicles and lymph nodes clear
Catheter out 15 Dec 06, Dry since 11 Feb 07
All PSA tests in 2007 (4) <.04
PSA tests in 2008: Mar.=.04; Jun.=.05; Sept.=.08; at SRT Start=0.1,
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davidg
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   Posted 3/1/2011 6:37 PM (GMT -6)   
thank you all.

I'll be honest and admit that even when I'm 100% without the pills, I'll probably still pop one every so often. I bet that's true with most of you too.

Arnie
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   Posted 3/1/2011 7:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Be patient, Questions.........I was at the 8-9 month mark before I started to notice any real progress. But I continued to take the ADC Viagra every day for blood flow---------it's tough to be patient, but in time you'll start to see some results
 
 Arnie in DE
Age 56 (biopsy & surgery)-PSA-3.9-Biopsy 8/19/08--4 of 12 cores positive; 5% involvement, Gleason 6 (3+3) 1/26/09-DaVinci Prostatectomy at Presbyterian Medical Center/HUP-Phila, PA-Dr. David Lee
Path. Report- G7 (3+4)Adenocarcinoma, no capsular involvement, seminal vesicles clear, lymph nodes clear, negative margins
Continent at 3 mos.------ED improving
PSA at 2 yrs-<0.1

Tony Crispino
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   Posted 3/1/2011 7:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Questions,
Hang in there, buddy. Because of hormonal therapies, after surgery I was fully ED for three years. And when I stopped? slowly but surely things started coming back. I was never more excited to see a morning erection...:-)

David,
I still take Taladifil but I don't always need it. it makes then erections more durable though. It's interesting to point out it was that same exact symptom that led me to my doctor 4 years ago at the age of 44. I went in for ED drugs and exited with a PSA of 20. Go figure...

Tony
Advanced Prostate Cancer at age 44 (I am 48 now)
pT3b,N0,Mx (original PSA was 19.8) EPE, PM, SVI. Gleason 4+3=7

Treatments:
Da Vinci Surgery ~ 2/16/2007
Adjuvant Radiation Therapy ~ IMRT Completed 8/07
Adjuvant Hormone Therapy ~ 28 months on Casodex and Lupron.
Undetectable PSA.

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Piano
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   Posted 3/1/2011 7:19 PM (GMT -6)   
davidg said...
My wife is in India and has purchased me a boatload but I don't like taking pills to begin with and am a little suspicious of the Indian stuff.

Someone here has already warned me about customs but I thought it was worth a try, specially if they arrest her.
LOL!!! turn

There are a couple of downsides here: if they arrest your wife they will also confiscate your pills. And secondly they will eventually release her. smilewinkgrin
No symptoms; PSA 5.7; Gleason 4+5=9; cancer in 4/12 cores
Non-nerve-sparing RRP 7 March 2008 age 63
Organ confined, neg margins. Gleason downgrade 4+4=8
Fully continent
Bimix worked well; now using just VED
PSA undetectable at first but now 0.4, doubling time 7 months
No radiation but ADT coming unless I can slow down the rise...

davidg
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   Posted 3/2/2011 8:39 AM (GMT -6)   
they're here.

A boatload of them.

The Tadalafil tablets say Megalis-20 and are manufactured by Macleods Pharmaceuticals

The viagra is really weird. First off, it's red and not blue pills. The box says in small lettering sildenafil citrate and in big lettering over the picture of an Indian woman VIGORA. I don't know why but bottom of the box it says GERMAN REMEDIES. I think the manufacturer is GERMED.

tatt2man
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   Posted 3/2/2011 9:05 AM (GMT -6)   
- the indian companies - all day chemist - and reliable rx pharmacy ( for Canadian purchasers) sell to Germany and other European , and some of language on the pill packs are in two languages....

- it is my understanding if the nerve bundles were removed, the pills would be on no use at all... and only if there was nerve-saving surgery - one or two bundles - the pills would have an effect - as the nerves reconnect and communicate ...


- also , do keep in mind the possible side effects of viagra, etc, do read up on them - you don't want to be stuck the rest of your life with tinnitus (I am due to double whammy of effects from Cipro and Viagra/cialis )

all the best

Fairwind
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   Posted 3/2/2011 12:02 PM (GMT -6)   
I was starting to make a little progress with the imported Viagra, then they put me on ADT and that was the end of that...But now, I don't care anymore...

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   Posted 3/2/2011 1:56 PM (GMT -6)   
In theory, according to my surgeon, there may remain some nerves that still could function even if they do not attempt nerve-sparing.
 
But I was told thet the general ED med question is separate from the nerves - it is a rehab effort to keep blood flowing so that willy doesn't drop off. You might want to keep him around for shots or to stuff an implant in -
 
In the fight to get the insurance to pay for them (they pay a little), even the care coordinators admitted that the meds were widely used even in cases where there is no expectation of "natural" erections. But they still did not agree to pay.

Aussie99
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   Posted 3/2/2011 4:46 PM (GMT -6)   
I have been using Tadalafil (generic Cialis) from India for just coming up two years. The site I use is securetabs.com and have had excellent service.

I cut the 20 mg pills into four pieces and have a 5 mg fragment every day. That ends up costing about 30 cents a day.

By having a small dose every day I keep a much more uniform concentration of the drug in my body (varies from 3.3 mg to 8.3 mg) and thereby eliminate the side effects caused by a spike in concentration that comes from less frequent higher doses. I used to get all the normal side effects (aching lower back and hips, acid reflux, stuffy nose and morning headaches), but now with the daily 5 mg dosage I am absolutely free of side effects and ready for action at any time.

davidg
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   Posted 3/2/2011 4:54 PM (GMT -6)   
how do you cut them? I had trouble cutting the U.S. versions ( using a butter knife) which are bigger than the indian ones.

I get no side effects whatsoever anymore so can stick to 20mg every other day. I guess it best to time it so you take it the days you intend to actually use them but that's difficult to do after 20 years marriage...

Now what do I do with the boatload of generic viagra I got along with the cialis? Cialis works so hesitant to switch, but am curious to see if Viagra works even better. Getting greedy here.

Aussie99
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   Posted 3/2/2011 5:35 PM (GMT -6)   
G'day David, I tried cutting them with a knife, but they tend to shatter. A pair of sharp scissors works best, as close to the pivot point as possible to give the greatest leverage.

For me Cialis works best. The couple of times I tried Viagra I got hot flushes at the time of ejeculation, which took some of the fun out of it. I gave my spare Viagra away to a mate.

As for taking them when you intend to need them, I work on the principle that you are best to have noble intentions every day, and at 30 cents a day, being fully prepared is the way to go.

And even if you can function reasonably well without the daily dosage (running on the residual from the previous days), the daily dosage ensures peak performance.

davidg
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   Posted 3/2/2011 5:45 PM (GMT -6)   
yeah, they do shatter. The U.S ones had a seam, these Indian ones don't.

she brought back 90 20mg pills.

Can I take one a day for 3 months or is it dangerous to take 20mg every day? I seem to recall my nurse saying they last 36 hours.

I guess if I split them in half and take 10 mg a day it would turn into a 6 month supply.

I'm kind of enjoying my dry orgasms so wouldn't want to ruin them with hot flashes during climax.

I do want to try the viagra at some point though.

daveshan
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   Posted 3/2/2011 5:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Try a commercial pill splitter, works OK for the ones I got. Kind of hard with the odd shapes but it gets it close enough to 50/50 for me.

Each of us seems to react differently to the meds as far as side effects and effectiveness.

For me:

Levitra, best compromise, minimal side effects and good effect.
Viagra, works a bit better with much worse side effects
Cialis, least effect, some muscle pain, stuffy nose threw away the ones I had left after my first ADC order came in.

Your mileage will vary probably.

Dave in Durango CO
07-06 PSA 2.5
01-08 PSA 5.5
09-09 PSA 6.5
12-09 Biopsy, initial Gleason 9 (4+5) later reduced to 8 with tertiary 5
03-01-10 Age 55 RRP in Durango CO by Dr Sejal Quale and Dr Shandra Wilson
03-16-10 Path' G-8 (4+4+5) Bilateral involving 21% of left lobe, 3% of right lobe, SVI, Focal positive margin, pT3b NO MX

All PSA as of 1-25-11 <0.04

Aussie99
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   Posted 3/2/2011 7:03 PM (GMT -6)   
I recall seeing a trial where they took a large daily dose of Cialis (something like 5 x 20 mg pills per day), without negative effects, so one a day could be OK, but at present there is only FDA approval for 5 mg daily Cialis, so 20 mg daily might be a bit over the top, especially when taking into account residuals as discussed below.

I initially tried a third of a 20 mg pill daily, but had side effects, mostly lower back and hip pain. I could live with the stuffy nose and acid reflux, but not the back pain. I went back to a fifth of a pill (4 mg fragment) per day for 18 months and that worked great.

Then 6 weeks ago I started daily Avodart and found that 4 mg of daily Cialis was not quite enough. I upped the dose slightly to 5 mg (quarter of a pill) and back on track.

If you want to try a daily dosage, I would start on 5 mg and see how it goes. If you need more, go for a third of a pill. Then only if needed, go for a half. Sometimes it is a delicate balance between getting the job done and avoiding side effects.

What you have to remember when embarking on a daily Cialis program (or V or L) is the residual buildup from the previous days' dosages. As for the mathematics, using the 17.5 hour half life for Cialis, and when taking into account the previous days' residuals, if a daily dose of X mg is taken, after reaching equilibrium that takes about 5 days, the body concentration of Cialis has a daily cyclic variation between 0.67X mg and 1.67X mg. So taking 5 mg every day gives a peak daily concentration of 8.33 mg. And at the extreme, if you took a full 20 mg pill every day, your peak concentration would get to 33.3 mg, which I think would be above any prudent level.

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   Posted 3/2/2011 7:35 PM (GMT -6)   
My uro said the 20mg Cialis should be taken no more often than one every three days.
 
I use a commercial pill cutter box bought at the pharmacy (it has a holding bracket and the equivalent of a heavy razor blade).
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