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diamonds3
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   Posted 3/3/2011 4:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Everyone,
 
My sweet husband is having surgery tomorrow and I feel very nervous. He is telling me he is not. We are going to Pennsylvannia Hpspital where Dr. Eun will do the procedure at 2:00 pm. We were originally requested and were scheduled for 10:30am as I think we are all fresher in the morning, but my husband agreed to go ahead with the change.
I will be there waiting by myself and I am not sure whether or not it is a good idea. What if I hear bad news?
Both of us have read the suggestions offered by the forum regarding surgery. If anyone can think of anything else, please let me know. Thank you

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   Posted 3/3/2011 4:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Diamonds3,
 
Most of us were on the sleeping side of the wait (a few of the ladies may chime in on life in the waiting room).
 
I had family waiting, and I guess the only thing that was disconcerting to them was the surgeon reporting out great news, and then getting my less than great pathology.
Remember that he will tell you about how the surgery process went, that he will have only a minimal idea of what was in the tissue, and that the pathology of the PCa will only be known a week or so later. He won't be able to tell you anything definitive about the pathology, so don't be surprised.
 
I hope all goes well, and we are here if you have any questions. Let us know how he does.
DaVinci 10/2009
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   Posted 3/3/2011 4:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Tomorrow....I spent the day by myself. I took my laptop, we had wifi, so I was able to spend the day posting on here and getting support. I spent 2 hours at the beginning watching a movie. I sent lots of emails and posted on facebook to friends and family, since my cell service didnt work within the hospital. Ultimately, I was glad no one was with me, but I am not a very social person. If you are, then you might want to have someone check on you and be able to come stop by for a short visit, and stay (if needed) for a longer period of time. I was not able to leave the OR waiting room, in fear of missing news, but I know some hospitals give you pagers, so you can go to the chapel or walk around. One thing I was glad I had, some snacks. Take a few snacks in your purse. I am certain they will have coffee available, but bring some water or your choice of drink, otherwise bring lots of coins for the vending machines. A book, if you like to read. You will just be sitting, anxiously, and nervously. Lots of time to sit and do nothing....figure out how you like to waste time....reading, sewing, writing........

Best of luck to you
Susan

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   Posted 3/3/2011 4:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello, Diamond
I'm sorry to hear you and your husband are having to go through this.
 
My wife also was alone at the hospital while I was in surgery.  Our son was to have been with her, but he and his wife won a free trip to Las Vegas at a baseball game the night before, and it was the sort of prize where they had to be willing and able to leave immediately.  He was really conflicted, but I assured him I wanted him and his wife to take advantage of the prize, so Beth ended up alone.
 
She said four hours can be an incredibly long time waiting, so be sure to take reading material or a Kindle or something.  The surgery can be a couple of hours, or it can be much longer (mine ended up being 4 and a half hours because of some extra work the surgeon did). 
 
Beth was allowed in the pre-op area and tells me I was joking and flirting with the nurses as they wheeled me toward the operating room.  I don't remember any of that, but I guess it's true.   She then had to go off to a waiting area.
 
It will be approaching supper time by the time you're reunited with your husband, so you might want to take a snack or drop by the hospital cafeteria at some point.
 
If the surgeon has prior surgeries that day, be prepared for your procedure to be moved forward or slid later, depending on how his other procedures have gone.
 
If you're the prayerful type, an appropriate prayerbook might be also good to have with you.
 
My wife surprised me with a vase of flowers in the room....a very nice touch.
 
Good luck to both of you.  And welcome to the "club."  I wish you didn't have to join, but please let us know how things go.
 
 
 
 
Age 65
Dx in June 2010.
PSA gradually rising for 3 years to 6.2
Biopsy confirmed cancer in 6 of 12 cores, all on left side
Gleason 7 (3 + 4)
Bone scan, CT scan, rib x-rays negative.
DaVinci 8/20/10
Negative margins; negative seminal vesicles
5 brothers, ages 52-67 ; I'm the only one with PCa
Continence OK after 7 weeks. ED continues.
PSA 1/3/10: 0.01

142
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   Posted 3/3/2011 4:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Speaking of snacks and the like - you might call the hospital. Yes, most have a coffee pot, but mine actually had small snacks and fountain cold drinks, tea, etc., and a voucher for one guest at the cafeteria. You might call now and ask for the surgery waiting room - most have volunteers or staff who keep things running, and would be more than happy to help you be prepared for the day.

Julietinthewoods
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   Posted 3/3/2011 5:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Remember that lots of people here will be thinking about you both. Please let us know how he does!

Juliet

Mackattack
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   Posted 3/3/2011 5:17 PM (GMT -6)   
My wife was there for me and my in-laws were there for her. She told me that she was in a large waiting room with a couple of hundred people. She received a series of phone calls from the OR. The nurse told her when surgery started at 7:45 AM. She then received another phone call at 8:30 AM saying that surgery was going fine and that they would call again at 10 AM. While everyone was nice and professional, when she was called up for a phone call 45 minutes into surgery, it about gave her a heart attack.

While we laugh about this now, my point is you will probably be nervous, but try not to be waiting for the other shoe to drop. Everything will be fine tomorrow.

Good Luck!
PSA 3.9 - October 2010 at annual physical
PSA 4.1 - November 2010 after a month of antibiotic, DRE Normal
Age 41 in December 2010 at Dx of 6 of 12 cores positive T1C and Gleason 3 + 3

open RP on 2/14/11 at Mass General

Post Surgery Pathology Report: Gleason 6, T2, Cancer in 35% of Prostate, All Margins Clear

MrsGFM
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   Posted 3/3/2011 7:10 PM (GMT -6)   
I was very frightened when my husband had surgery, as he had never been in the operating room before. Never had an IV, etc. So I was concerned about how he would react to anesthesia, etc. Everything went fine.

I had 3 different people with me, one at a time for an hour each. It kept my mind off things very well. The OR called every once in a while to tell me how things were going there.

I saw my husband being wheeled out of recovery and up to his room. He looked absolutely fine and was wide awake and alert. He was discharged to home the end of the next day.

Our surgery and recovery event was very uneventful. I pray the same for you and your husband. Let us know how it goes.
Mr GFM's statistics:
Age 50 at diagnosis
PSA History: 10-05 1.3, 01-07 2.09
8-07 - PSA at Biopsy: 2.26
2 of 12 positive
Gleason Score 3+3 6
11-07 - Robotic surgery hospitalized overnight.
Path Report:
Prostatic adenocardinoma, Gleasons 3+3+6, moderately differentiated
Percent of Prostate involved by tumor 5%
Staging pT2c pNx pMx
Margins free of tumor - no further invasion or extension
Catheter out in about 9 days. No incontinence.
Back to work in 2 weeks
ED - resolved. No meds needed at this time.
Post Op PSA: 03-08 0.01, 10-08 0.02, 7-09 0.04, 1-10 0.04, 7-10 0.04

Purgatory
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   Posted 3/3/2011 7:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Good Luck diamonds, to you and your husband, be glad for both of you when he's safely on the other side.

david in sc
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos marg
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 11/10 Not taking it
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, 21 Catheters, Ileal Conduit Surgery 9/23/10

davidg
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   Posted 3/3/2011 8:16 PM (GMT -6)   
my wife, mother and dad were waiting in my room. hey were relaxed as they knew I was in good hands. I wasn't relaxed, but I was serene by that point. My surgeon personally went upstairs to the room to tell them how the surgery had gone. I was glad to have a lot of people there for me.

Purgatory
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   Posted 3/3/2011 9:31 PM (GMT -6)   
I was remembering back to my open Surgery in November of 2008. My wife, daughter, and son in law, and a priest were in the pre-op waiting area with me until I was wheeled away. When I came out of recovery was wheeled to my room, my wife and all 3 of my adult age kids were waiting patiently for me. Never felt so glad in my life at the moment.
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos marg
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 11/10 Not taking it
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, 21 Catheters, Ileal Conduit Surgery 9/23/10

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   Posted 3/3/2011 9:46 PM (GMT -6)   
I was cold out before they rolled me down the hall, so never saw the robot or the surgeon. Vaguely remember the recovery, but went out again. The surgeon came by that night, but have no memory of what he said. I think they brought me a liquid dinner, but don't remember anything until the next day.

Sleepless09
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   Posted 3/3/2011 10:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Diamonds, there's very little (nothing) I can say that's really going to give you the comfort I wish I could give you. When a loved one goes into surgery it's impossible not to worry. My wife had a bunion done last summer and it was harder on me than my own da Vinci was.

However, I can promise you one thing that may help put it all into perspective as you see him wheeled off in the morning and go to sit and wait: By this time tomorrow what you'll be focused on, the worry issue, will be his bowel gas rumblings and when his first BM will be!

Sheldon AKA Sleepless

davidg
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   Posted 3/3/2011 10:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Sheldon, 70 minute surgery?

mine was 3 hours.

Sleepless09
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   Posted 3/3/2011 10:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi davidg,

That was the time on the log sheet. The guy who did mine had done hundreds of laprascopic surgeries before he started using the da Vinci machine. I was told by others in the hospital that this experience gave him a real edge on the game and that he had magic hands. Methinks he must play video games on weekends or something to be that fast. As I recall, and I've posted it here before, (which is why I asked him a couple of months later if my memory could possibly be right and he got out his OR report to confirm the 70 minutes) I was wheeled into the OR not long after 8 a.m. and it was 10:20 a.m. on the clock the first time I was aware of the big clock in the recovery room.

One of the nice things about such a short surgery is that my knock out drug consumption was fairly low and I was amazed how sharp I was when I awoke. When they wheeled me out of recovery back to my room I was singing "Hello Dolly" when I saw my wife in the hall.

I have a close friend who does da Vinci surgery in Ohio and he tells me the time taken in a da Vinci surgery has both to do with a surgeon's skill and also with the anatomy of the patient. I take it that while us guys all have prostates some are much easier to pluck than others. I must have had one that was easy plucking.

Whatever! I'm glad to be rid of the rotten sucker.

Sheldon AKA Sleepless
Age 67 in Apil '09 at news of 4 of 12 cores positive T2B and Gleason 3 + 3 and 5% to 25% PSA 1.5
Re-read of slides in June said Gleason 3 + 4 same four cores 5% to 15%
June 29 daVinci prostatectomy, Dr. Eric Estey, at Royal Alexandra Hospital Edmonton one night stay
From "knock out" to wake up in recovery less than two hours.  Actual surgery 70 minutes
Flew home to Winnipeg on July 3 after 5 nights in Ramada Inn  ---  perfect recovery spot!
Catheter out July 9
Final pathology is 3 + 4 Gleason 7, clear margins, clear nodes, T2C, sugeron says report is "excellent"
 
Oct 1st 09 -- dry at night, during day some stress issues.
Oct 31st padless 24/7 
 
First post op PSA Sept 09  less than 0.02
PSA on Oct 23, 2009 less than 0.02
PSA on Jan 8, 2010  less than 0.02
PSA on April 9, 2010 less than 0.02 
PSA on July 9, 2010 (one year) less than 0.02
  

Sephie
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   Posted 3/4/2011 6:01 AM (GMT -6)   
Oh Diamond...your post takes me back 3 years when my husband was getting ready for his surgery...except, at that time, I had not discovered this wonderful forum and my knowledge of what could be wasn't what it is today.

My husband was taken into the surgical staging area around 4:00 pm, and I didn't see him again til 9:30 that night (the surgical nurse told me that the doctor booked the OR for 6 hours!). Anyway, I had my sister in law with me and a close friend to keep me company. The OR nurse took my cell phone number and promised to keep me posted (she called me about half way through the surgery to tell me that everything was going fine, and that John was doing very well under the anesthesia). The surgeon told me to go out and have a nice dinner (which we did) since it would be a few hours before I heard anything.

When the surgeon came out of the OR about 9:15 at night, my sister in law had gone home but my friend was still with me. The surgeon briefed me on the results of the surgery but the official pathology report wasn't ready til my husband had the catheter removed about 10 days later. I was allowed to go in an "see" my John in the post op area...he looked terrible so prepare yourself (if you read this message in time). John had the robotic procedure, and they blow CO2 into the abdomen to give the surgeon a clearer view. Also, you are on the OR table in an inverted position (the head is lower than the feet) to help move the other organs out of the way. The result of all this was that my John looked like a big, fat pumpkin head when I saw him. Fortunately, the nurse prepared me for this but I was still shocked to see him so swollen. Then, there's the incredible amount of blood in the catheter bag. But, I got to see John and tell him I love him (and, believe it or not, he was able to talk to me though he wasn't make much sense). After 10 minutes, the nurse threw me out and I went home about 10:00 that night (we had gotten to the hospital around noon!).

I hope you come back and let us know how things went. We all send you and your husband lots of good thoughts as you begin this journey.

davidg
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   Posted 3/4/2011 6:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, mine took 3 hours because I have big veins and probably bleed more than most. And yeah, my 3 hours included all the pre and post op stuff. I just remember seeing the clock say 4PM as I was being wheeled out and saying "3 hours? did everything go well?" and then hearing someone say "everything went great". Next I know I'm in the recovery room which was the only bad experience I had throughout the process. Felt like I was in a tent of wounded soldiers in the trenches during WW1. I literally forced the nurse to discharge me and send me up to my room.

And yes, the better the surgeon and the better the "specimen" the quicker it can take. I was initially a little taken aback that mine took an hour longer than expected, but my mother immediately said "i'm not, it means he really took his time, did a good job and cleaned up the entire area". She doesn't know that for a fact, but when she said it it no longer bothered me that mine took longer. I had associated the longer time with something being wrong in me.

hope_its_gone
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   Posted 3/4/2011 6:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Good Luck. I imagine that you'll both do fine! For my procedure a funny think happened in the waiting room. There's a big screen with patients identified by a special code (known only to the family) and there are updates posted there on the patient status. In operation room since ...; in post-op since ...; awake from anesthetic; transferred to room ###; and so on. I was making progress up until the transfer to my room (which my family didn't notice because the surgeon had come out to talk to them). He told them among other things the surgery had gone very well, I was awake, and would be transferred to my room shortly where they could see me. Unfortunately, there was an error in the last e-entry code and my code and tracking disappeared from the chart. It also seems that my actual name had been spelled wrong in the patient information table at admissions so I sort of just disappeared without a trace. My family didn't panic and got the information that they needed, but my other visitors were concerned when the came to visit and were told that I wasn't there.
58 yo; diagnosed with prostate cancer 1/11; biopsy 1/14 positive @ right apex 3+4
PSA: 7/2008 4.7, biopsy negative 0/12; PSA: 5.2@9/10; 5.9@10/10; 6.3@11/10: 6.9@12/10; 7.4@1/11; biopsy positive @ 1/11; Negative CT and Bone Scan @ 1/11; PSA: 9.4@2/15; DaVinci RP 2/22 L-Nodes & Nerve bundles excellent & spared: pathology tumor widespread in prostate 4+3; no contacts; prognosis excellent.

Sleepless09
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   Posted 3/4/2011 7:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Diamonds --- just to let you know I'm thinking of you both this morning, and will be this afternoon, and until I read good news from you here later.

Good on you both!

Sheldon AKA Sleepless
Age 67 in Apil '09 at news of 4 of 12 cores positive T2B and Gleason 3 + 3 and 5% to 25% PSA 1.5
Re-read of slides in June said Gleason 3 + 4 same four cores 5% to 15%
June 29 daVinci prostatectomy, Dr. Eric Estey, at Royal Alexandra Hospital Edmonton one night stay
From "knock out" to wake up in recovery less than two hours.  Actual surgery 70 minutes
Flew home to Winnipeg on July 3 after 5 nights in Ramada Inn  ---  perfect recovery spot!
Catheter out July 9
Final pathology is 3 + 4 Gleason 7, clear margins, clear nodes, T2C, sugeron says report is "excellent"
 
Oct 1st 09 -- dry at night, during day some stress issues.
Oct 31st padless 24/7 
 
First post op PSA Sept 09  less than 0.02
PSA on Oct 23, 2009 less than 0.02
PSA on Jan 8, 2010  less than 0.02
PSA on April 9, 2010 less than 0.02 
PSA on July 9, 2010 (one year) less than 0.02
  

yobiks
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   Posted 3/4/2011 10:27 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey there--- I just had my open rp on tuesday and am at home for the first day today. Cherish every moment of this experience because you will remember it for the rest of your life. I met so many impressive people at the hospital- my nurses were awesome. My doctor came back several times to tell me not to worry- there can be "little" issues that seem more significant when you are laying on your back. Give your husband a backrub- 24 hours on your back without changing position is very hard. Embrace the experience. I won't know the results on the path for a week but that is another day.
age 56
sept 28 2010
psa 2.1
jan10 '11 gleason 3+3 t2b
open rp scheduled march 1 2011

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   Posted 3/4/2011 3:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Hope all is going well today.
 
Let us know.
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