Restoring continence? (news article)

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   Posted 3/8/2011 3:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Perhaps we're not far from the day when docs will be able to grow new urethral sphincters to restore urinary control the biological way:


[edit - just saw that English Alf had posted the second of these stories earlier. The top one is worth a look.]

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   Posted 3/9/2011 2:31 AM (GMT -6)   
The kidney story is more about a technique that might be possible in the future, the urethra/bladder one is about something that is working now. (Same doc doing both)

(The comments on the kidney story are a bit strange.)

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   Posted 3/9/2011 12:01 PM (GMT -6)   
has anyone had collagen injections to help make the sphincter work better - that is often listed as an option , prior to getting a sling, etc>
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   Posted 3/9/2011 4:32 PM (GMT -6)   
i had both collagen and teflex.  I would suggest teflex before collagen since it is more long lasting and doesn't get absorbed.  I had my injections 2002 to 2003.
My present Urologist doesn't recommend either since his experience did not show any long term benefit.  He was doing it in 1997 to 2001.  
Each urologist has different experience so it may not be what works for you.
The bigger question is how incontinent ( pads you use)
Have you tried bladder training with biofeedback and kegels
Other question is costs - I had heard that the bulking maybe as costly as sling or sphincter. 
I just had the artificial  sphincter installed and bill as outpatient (stayed to next day) was $27 to 30k.  Insurance knocked down $16k off of bill before they settled.
Good luck, I messed around with the problem for 10 years before I got this fix.
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