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natural44
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   Posted 3/8/2011 3:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Going to Uro in a couple weeks for 6 month PSA, and to start injections for the ED.  I was thinking about having my "T" level checked to see if this might be part of the ongoing ED issues post my RRP.
 
My question for you guys is:  Is it really worth it to have the "T" level checked? Would it not be dangerous for me to do anything about it even if it was low?
age 44 when diagnosed 45 now
RRP 9-28-10
gleason 3+3
pathology report clear
11-1-10 PSA 0.02
3 month 0.00
pump works ok
12-1-10 noctural erections, not very strong maybe 20%
tried all oral meds and nothing yet
Dr. R. Saint in Tulsa did my procedure, I do NOT recomend him!!
2-28-11 ED seems to be getting worse, no nocturnals for a week, and nothing spontanious at all still

Arnie
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   Posted 3/8/2011 4:31 PM (GMT -6)   

Natural........it's always good to get a baseline for anything you might be addressing down the road. Because my treating uro was following traditional protocol, I had to agree to wait until I posted a 2-yr PSA of <0.1 before beginning TRT.....I wish I had gotten a baseline "T" level prior to surgery, because I feel that my libido and other symptoms changed after surgery in a way that could not only be attributed to "recovery" from major surgery. My "T" levels since surgery have remained in the mid-300's. I don't know if your uro will be willing to supplement this early on, but your post op stats are very favorable and are better than mine, at least per Gleason. Based on the studies I've been seeing, it may not be as dangerous as once thought ( and may be protective and beneficial) to supplement post PCA. But even the most forward-thinking specialist may want to wait until you get to one year out w/undetectable PSA result...best wishes.

Arnie in DE


Age 56 (biopsy & surgery)-PSA-3.9-Biopsy 8/19/08--4 of 12 cores positive; 5% involvement, Gleason 6 (3+3) 1/26/09-DaVinci Prostatectomy at Presbyterian Medical Center/HUP-Phila, PA-Dr. David Lee
Path. Report- G7 (3+4)Adenocarcinoma, no capsular involvement, seminal vesicles clear, lymph nodes clear, negative margins
Continent at 3 mos.------ED improving
PSA at 2 yrs-<0.1

summer boy
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   Posted 3/8/2011 4:31 PM (GMT -6)   
It has only been a few months. Give it some time. You will have good days and bad days. Try the Trimix and see how that goes for now. Best of luck.

Skate
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   Posted 3/8/2011 4:51 PM (GMT -6)   

Question about "T" level.

Pre-HT I had my testosterone checked and it was 25.0  After three months on HT the reading is now 1.0  I know that's a good thing as the HT is obviously doing it's job.  Many guys on this forum post different values and I find it difficult to equate my results with their's.  Any help in translation or conversion?

Jack


Age 59 at Diagnosis 62 now
01/08 PSA 4.17 DRE showed node
03/08 RP - pT3a 10% ca / Nerve Sparing, margins clear, no invasion
Continent 3 weeks post surgery / ED
06/08 until 08/09 PSA 0.01
08/09 PSA .14
09/09 SRT / 36 treatments
01/10 PSA .13
08/11/10 PSA 3.44 T = 25.0
30/11/10 Zoladex ADT
24/02/11 PSA <.04 T = 1.0

Arnie
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   Posted 3/8/2011 4:58 PM (GMT -6)   

Skate.....I believe there are two different scales of measuirng testosterone, and for the life of me, I can't remember the conversion equation. For instance, my lab reports levels in the 280-1050 range, whereas I've seen reference levels similar to your numbers in a range that's much smaller in number range. I've seen a member refer to the conversion, so that we can be talking apples to apples here. Perhaps someone will chime in with that info.

Arnie in DE


Trepidation
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   Posted 3/8/2011 5:01 PM (GMT -6)   
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Natural........it's always good to get a baseline for anything you might be addressing down the road.

 

 

 

 

 

Read Dr. Stephen Strums PC primer and he says the same. I am going to do that too. He also talks about different forms of PC and that we all have different physiologys which means to me that much testing is needed before any form of treatment.


F8
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   Posted 3/8/2011 8:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Skate -=- my level is 6.  normal is 194-740.  there is a lower scale.  i think you divide by 28.
 
ed
 
 
age: 55
PSA on 12/09: 6.8
gleason 3+4 = 7
HT, BT and IGRT
received 3rd and last lupron shot 9/14/10
2/8/11 PSA <.1, T= 6 ng/dl

Purgatory
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   Posted 3/8/2011 8:13 PM (GMT -6)   
I just recently had my T-level checked for first time in my life. It is meant to be a baseline, in case needed for the future. This was before I found out my SRT has failed, so it was probably a good idea.

David
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos marg
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 2/11 1.24
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, 21 Catheters, Ileal Conduit Surgery 9/10,

F8
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   Posted 3/8/2011 8:39 PM (GMT -6)   
or maybe it's multiply by .28.  i'm really not sure cool .
 
ed

gold horse
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   Posted 3/8/2011 9:45 PM (GMT -6)   

Natural 44 you do not want to play with fire.my surgeon prescrived T hormone only

because for the last five years my psa=0.04

last week I went to my Neorologist and he advised me no to take T hormone and I will

fallow his advise. ed take time  but jou nee to wait "only my thought ' yeah


DIAGN=46 YEARS
GLEASON=3+3
FATHER HAD PC,THEN I THEN MY BROTHER STILL HAS TWO BROTHER PC FREE.
MARRIED,TWO CHILDREN.AGE 13 AND 8.
LAPROSCOPY SURGERY 6/2005
PATOLOGY REPORT.
GLEASON=3+3
TUMOR VOLUME=5%
LYMPHOVASCULAR INVASION=NEG
PERINEURAL INVASION=POSI
TUMOR MULTICENTRICITY=NEG
EXTRAPROSTATIC INVASION=NEG
SEMINAL VESICLES BOTH=CLEAN
MARGIN ALL=NEG
PT2ANXMX
DEVELOP SCART TISSUE AND NEEDED A SECOND SURGERY BECAUSE COULD NOT URINATE,
PSA 6/05=0.04,0.04,0.04,6/06,0.04,0.04,0.04,6/07,0.04,0.04,0.04,6/08,0.04,0.04,1/09
0.04,10/09,0.04
 

don826
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   Posted 3/8/2011 9:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Skate,

Here is an article from WebMD that has everything you always wanted to know about T testing.

http://men.webmd.com/testosterone-15738

Don
Diagnosed 04/10/08 Age 58
Gleason 4 + 3
DRE palpable tumor on left side
100% of 12 cores positive for PCa range 35% to 85%
Bone scan and chest x ray clear
CT scan shows potential lymph node involvement in pelvic region
IGRT/IMRT with adjuvant HT (lupron) 2yrs
PSA:
02/08 21.5
07/08 0.82
10/08 .642
09/09 0.32
03/10 0.32
06/10 0.32
07/10 0.10

Skate
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   Posted 3/8/2011 10:09 PM (GMT -6)   

Thanks Don, that works for me.  Good conversion chart.

Jack 

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