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James C.
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   Posted 3/13/2011 6:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Found this one at Bostwick Labs, for predicting further spread. Someone may have already posted, if so, sorry... It says:

"UroPredictâ„¢ is based on data from real patients. It predicts the chance that a man's prostate cancer remains confined to the prostate. "

www.bostwicklaboratories.com/uropredict/uropredict.aspx
James C. Age 63
Gonna Make Myself A Better Man tinyurl.com/28e8qcg
4/07: PSA 7.6, 7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS6
9/07: Nerve Sparing open RP, Path: pT2c, 110 gms., clear except:
Probable microscopic involvement-left apical margin -GS6
3 Years: PSA's .04 each test until 04/10-.06, 09/10-.09, 12/10-.09, 02/11-.08
ED-total-Bimix 30cc

Jerry L.
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   Posted 3/13/2011 6:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Interesting...

I tried a few variations, but one thing I found consistant. With a G-9, it is a very rare thing to find it confined to the prostate...regardless of age and PSA. Whether you are 40, 50, 60 years old and with even with a PSA of .5 --- with a G-9 there is a > 75% chance it is not confined.
Nov. 2009 Dx at Age 44
Dec. 2009 DaVinci Robotic Surgery
Jan. 2010 T3b, Gleason 9
Feb. 2010 Adjuvant Radiation

PSA History:
-----------------
Nov. 2009 4.30
Feb. 2010 <.05
May 2010 <.05
Aug. 2010 <.05
Nov. 2010 <.05
March, 2011 .09

lowandslow
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   Posted 3/13/2011 6:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for this calculator. It gives me that little bit of extra hope.
Age 48
November 2010 PSA 4.1
Biopsy 12/22/10
Diagnosed 1/12/11
3 of 7 cores positive 30% involvment all on right side. Left side clear.
No perinural invasion noted
Gleason 7 (3+4)
Robotic scheduled for 3/14/11 at James Center Ohio State U. Dr. Abaza

kbota
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   Posted 3/13/2011 7:36 PM (GMT -6)   
I noticed the same thing Jerry. I played with several variations of my G9, with essentially the same results.

What does unifocal mean?
Age 57 at Dx
5/09 PSA 2.26
6/2010 PSA 3.07 FPSA 18% DRE +
Biopsy, 7 of 18+, >60%, 4+5=9
7/21/2010 - RRP
Nodes neg, Ves neg
tumor contained, still 4+5=9
pni ext.
9/3, 2010 PSA - 0.04
9/3/2010, I'm 99% continent
10/14/10, PSA still 0.04, and lupron #1, now 99.9% continent
Total ED, 3 caverject failed
10/20/10 OD'd .5cc trimix, after 3hrs, neo synephrine shot
tried .15 & .17 cc neg, next .2

Post Edited (kbota) : 3/13/2011 7:39:58 PM (GMT-6)


Purgatory
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   Posted 3/13/2011 7:48 PM (GMT -6)   
James, this is one of the few calculators that got my situation right. Impressed.
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos marg
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06 2/11 1.24
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, 21 Catheters, Ileal Conduit Surgery 9/10,

James C.
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   Posted 3/14/2011 7:23 AM (GMT -6)   
kobota, it means one location or occurrance, I suppose.

Definition: : arising from or occurring in a single focus or location <unifocal infection>
James C. Age 63
Gonna Make Myself A Better Man tinyurl.com/28e8qcg
4/07: PSA 7.6, 7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS6
9/07: Nerve Sparing open RP, Path: pT2c, 110 gms., clear except:
Probable microscopic involvement-left apical margin -GS6
3 Years: PSA's .04 each test until 04/10-.06, 09/10-.09, 12/10-.09, 02/11-.08
ED-total-Bimix 30cc

Sonny3
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   Posted 3/14/2011 7:41 AM (GMT -6)   
So with this one if I answer yes to unifocal I have a 22% chance of extraprostatic and with no raises it to 45%.

Pretty good guess, mine definitely got out. That is why after surgery and SRT my PSA is 4.2. Oh go figure, I wound up on the wrong side of the equation. Duh!!
60 years old - PSA 11/07 3.0 PSA 5/09 6.4
da Vinci 9/17/09
Post Surgery Pathology: GS 4+3=7
Stage: T3a
Tumor Volume 12.5% positive margin, extra-prostatic extension
30 day PSA 0.4, 50 day psa 0.53, 64 day psa 0.6
IMRT completed 1/15/10 35 treatments- 70Gy
2/23/10 Post IMRT PSA 1.0
3/22/10 PSA 1.5
4/19/10 PSA 1.2
5/22/10 PSA 1.3
8/9/10 Radiation for MET
9/7/10 PSA 2.2
1/5/11 PSA 3.9
3/7/11 PSA 4.2
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