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compiler
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   Posted 4/16/2011 8:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Still having this annoying groin pain, mostly on the right side. I had an inguinal hernia repair in 1988.
 
Still, no telltale bulge. It just feels swollen and the pain moves around in the area, sometimes even including testicular pain. Everything "looks" normal.
 
I don't think it is related to the SRT, but who knows. It worsened a few days after a complete workout (10 days ago).
 
Not sure what to make of this. I may see my family doctor if it continues.
 
The RO as usual just shrugs.
 
 
 
Mel

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   Posted 4/16/2011 8:50 AM (GMT -6)   
did you do lunges with weights? those can do it.

i had groin pain prior to surgery ans immediately associated it with my PCa. It wasn't.

compiler
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   Posted 4/16/2011 8:58 AM (GMT -6)   
No, but I did do about 11 laps on the treadmill and then about 30-40 minutes on various cybex machines.
 
Mel

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   Posted 4/16/2011 9:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Mel, while I am not an exercise freak/person, perhaps you are pushing it a bit too much for you with some of the exercise. Your body is going through a different kind of hell right now, as you accumulate more and more radiation by the day, there is a culmlative effect of radiation as you continue the second half of your treatments. Getting plenty of rest is very important as you endure the rest of this.

david in sc
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06, 2/11 1.24, 4/11 3.81
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, 21 Catheters, Ileal Conduit Surgery 9/10

compiler
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   Posted 4/16/2011 10:10 AM (GMT -6)   
David:
 
Perhaps. I thought I read/heard that exercise is good to ward off/combat fatigue?
 
Mel

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   Posted 4/16/2011 10:16 AM (GMT -6)   
running will do it too. I had lingering issues with groin all year pretty much leading up to surgery. Mostly when I played soccer.

I know, the more you exercise the more energy you get. I went running 3 days this week. Have been trying to ge tmotivated all morning to go for a run. Think I will go down to the HS track and try to get 3-4 miles in. I'll feel better after I do.

Have you been icing and stretching the groin?

compiler
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   Posted 4/16/2011 10:53 AM (GMT -6)   
David:
 
No. The clear instruction while undergoing SRT is no heating pads or ice in the area.
 
I always thought a groin pull was on the inside upper thigh.
 
Mine is right in the pubic area
 
Mel

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   Posted 4/16/2011 11:02 AM (GMT -6)   
>>Perhaps. I thought I read/heard that exercise is good to ward off/combat fatigue?<<
 
c'mon Mel.  we're getting old.  your body is talking to you.  you may need to make an adjustment. have you given up on the idea of taking something to help you relax a little?
 
ed
 
 

age: 56
PSA on 12/09: 6.8
gleason 3+4 = 7
HT, BT and IGRT
received 3rd and last lupron shot 9/14/10
2/8/11 PSA <.1, T= 6 ng/dl

davidg
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   Posted 4/16/2011 11:05 AM (GMT -6)   
compiler said...
David:


No. The clear instruction while undergoing SRT is no heating pads or ice in the area.



I always thought a groin pull was on the inside upper thigh.



Mine is right in the pubic area



Mel


Yeah, read up on that too. Groing area while goign through the PCa thing is a major mind ****

Didn't know about SRT and ice.

That leaves you with stretching and advil?

English Alf
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   Posted 4/16/2011 11:15 AM (GMT -6)   
I'd guess it could be SRT related. The area that has been irradiated has lots of tissue in it which due tio the RT will be swollen and may therefore be pressing on nerves etc or affecting bllod flow to an area. (A bit like last week when my dentist said that my tooth ache was probably due to my sinuses being blocked and pressing on the nerves in my skull as there was nothing wrong with the tooth in question. Sure enough the toothache went away when the weather/airpressure changed)

Another possibility is a slight strain from getting on and off that hard RT table. It was not as easy at the end as I had found it at the begining,by the last of my sessions I was having to be helped up.
Alf
Age dx 48
Apr 09 PSA 8.6
DRE neg
Biop 2/12 pos
Gleason 3+3
Jul 09 DaVinci AVL-NKI Amsterdam
6 Aug 09 Cath out
PostOp Gleason 3+4 Bladder neck & Left SVI -T3b
No perin’l No vasc invasion Clear margins
Dry at night
21 Sep 09 No pads daytime
Nov 09 PSA 0.1
Mar 10 PSA 0.4 sent to RT
13 Apr CT
RT 66Gy ends 11 Jun 10
Tired + weird BMs
Sep 10 PSA <0.1
Jan 11 PSA <0.1
Apr 11 PSA <0.1
Erection OK

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   Posted 4/16/2011 11:35 AM (GMT -6)   
my doctor told me to take aleve twice a day.
 
ed
 
 
age: 56
PSA on 12/09: 6.8
gleason 3+4 = 7
HT, BT and IGRT
received 3rd and last lupron shot 9/14/10
2/8/11 PSA <.1, T= 6 ng/dl

compiler
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   Posted 4/16/2011 11:52 AM (GMT -6)   
I will be consulting with my GP next week unless it improves.
 
It may well be swollen tissue or scar tissue from my 1988 surgey.
 
Very frustrating.
 
Ed, with all due respect, I don't need medication to relax. I do express my concerns freely here.
 
Mel

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   Posted 4/16/2011 12:49 PM (GMT -6)   
mel, both answers are correct. exercise done properly can help, but not eliminate the true fatigue that comes along with radiation, i was advised also to stay off my feet as much as possible, and rest when needed. this is the one time you need to listen closely to your body's natural signal. fatigue from radiation is different than just being tired

david in sc
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06, 2/11 1.24, 4/11 3.81
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, 21 Catheters, Ileal Conduit Surgery 9/10

AJ 47 (Maryland)
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   Posted 4/16/2011 1:33 PM (GMT -6)   

I've had three hernia repairs and have burning pain that comes and goes. A "neuroma" may develop from the cutting of microscopic nerves during surgeries. Envision a nerve bundle that is cut and the edge is now flat. Also picture little hairy fibers that grow out of the nerve ending in a disorganized fashion into a hard ball. That ball causes pain and burning. It can wax and wane and can be exacerbated by a number of things including, trauma, infection or exposure to heat or cold. I would imagine that exposure to radiation could cause a flare up and I'd bet my bottom dollar that's what you have. There's probably a small amount of swelling placing pressure on the nerves. It could also be that swelling is causing the edge of the mesh to come into contact with a nerve or neuroma and other tissue that was further away from the edge of the mesh before the SRT started. That's my best guess of what's causing your symptoms. I highly doubt it's lymph node involvement, which I know is what goes through our minds when dealing with cancer. You might want to ask your GP about this well known neurological phenomenon.


PSA 1.5 to 3.2 in 11 months. First 12 core biopsy on 2/10 negative in 11, atypical in 1. Second 13 core biopsy on 5/10 at Hopkins positive in 2 with Gleason 3+3 (focal). Robotic "Super VIP" Mani Menon 8/10. Postop G 3+4 (70%/30%). Focal ECE right posteriolateral mid. Neg. margins, lymphs, SV. Post op PSAs 9/14 <.1; 1/11 <.1; 4/11 <.1.

compiler
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   Posted 4/16/2011 2:36 PM (GMT -6)   
No mesh involved -- they were able to do the repair sans mesh.
 
I think it is swollen tissue, perhaps from the SRT  or from working out.
 
Mel

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   Posted 4/17/2011 12:57 PM (GMT -6)   
compiler said...
No mesh involved -- they were able to do the repair sans mesh.


I think it is swollen tissue, perhaps from the SRT or from working out.



Mel


were you doing interval training while running? I did some today and noticed some tweaking while sprinting. Slow steady job is all good now that I resolved the calf issue, but sprinting could be the cause of a pull.

compiler
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   Posted 4/17/2011 2:22 PM (GMT -6)   
No sprinting
 
I'm taking a brief break from the gym. Last time was Thursday.
 
I plan to return early this week if I can
 
Mel
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