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Purgatory
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   Posted 4/19/2011 4:19 PM (GMT -6)   
My next-door neighbor I have told you guys about has made his decision choice, he ended up being a Gleason 7 (4+3), still not sure of any PSA numbers.
 
He can't have surgery, too many previous in the area, and fairly recent major radiation for stomach cancer, too much scarring.
 
Can't have radiation or seeds, for the same reason as above.
 
His choice was HT only for now, or cyrotherapy  (think I spelled that right), or both at the same time.
 
He has chosen the cyro minus the ht, and he will see how things go after that.
 
He doesn't want to do HT unless the cyro fails.
 
Doctor said one night in the hospital probably for the cyro.
 
Would love to know more about this treatment method, my own uro was very much opposed to it, and no, he wasn't pushing surgery, he is also favorable to AS, RT, seeds, etc, depending on the patient's stats, circumstances.
 
My neighbor is taking it all in stride, he has been through other cancer and general medical hell prior to this dx.
 
David in SC

zufus
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   Posted 4/19/2011 4:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Dave grab the neighbor and some popcorn and sit back and watch this one cyro by Dr. Duke Bahn....just for education on youtube.com (Dr. Barken is the presenter)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T0_7x_m30U   
(If it doesn't work go to youtube.com and search for Dr. Duke Bahn)
 
Gonna need the donut pillow thing to sit one after having this done, trust me.

(Dr. Lee invented this whole thing a few decades ago)

Post Edited (zufus) : 4/19/2011 3:57:56 PM (GMT-6)


Purgatory
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   Posted 4/19/2011 4:50 PM (GMT -6)   
zufus, was hoping someone would come along and know this one. i don't. appreciate it. i am trying to give him all the support that i can, he is no longer dealing with denialism or constant fear, and he trusts his doctor (i don't know his at all, so have no opinion). he's not much for one being on the net, i will ask and see if he would be interested in the clip.

thanks man,

david in sc
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06, 2/11 1.24, 4/11 3.81
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, 21 Catheters, Ileal Conduit Surgery 9/10

zufus
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   Posted 4/19/2011 5:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Ok fixed the weblink above and there are two parts, go to youtube.com for the other Part II if interested. I only looked at a little of it right now, and it looked pretty interesting. There are a few experts in cryo, just like in other treatments.
Dx-2002 total urinary blockage from PCa emergency room, bPsa 46.6,
12/12 biopsies all 80-95% vol., Gleasons found 7,8,9's, scans appeared clear, ADT3 prior to Neutron & Photon radiations, DES since 2004-5.

Julietinthewoods
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   Posted 4/19/2011 5:10 PM (GMT -6)   
David, I have thought about your neighbor, and am glad you updated us. Here is a link to a website that is supposed to cover cryosurgery as a primary therapy. If I haven't managed to make it clickable, I apologize. You may need to copy and paste:

www.prostatecancercentre.com/downloads/booklets/cryotherapy.pdf

Also:

www.prostate-cancer.com/cryotherapy/side-effects/side-effects-cryo.html

Good for you for being such a caring friend...

Juliet

added clickable links

Post Edited By Moderator (James C.) : 4/19/2011 4:23:29 PM (GMT-6)


Purgatory
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   Posted 4/19/2011 7:59 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks juliet and zufus, i will check them out, and then see if he would like to see them
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06, 2/11 1.24, 4/11 3.81
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, 21 Catheters, Ileal Conduit Surgery 9/10

Swimom
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   Posted 4/19/2011 11:14 PM (GMT -6)   
One good thing that can be said about PCa is, at least there is a menu of treatment modes to choose from. Nice to know that Purg's neighbor has an option other than HRT. I wish him well.

Swim
 Hilarem datorum diligit Deus

Purgatory
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   Posted 4/20/2011 12:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you Swim. Not convinced he would ever join us here, not real big on online stuff, but I am making a point of staying touch with him weekly. He said that when I talk to him about PC, that I sounded just like his doctor, lol. I just make a point of staying neutral on any advice, right from the start. He's a big believer in being compliant with his doctors, and I encourage that thinking with him.

David
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06, 2/11 1.24, 4/11 3.81
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, 21 Catheters, Ileal Conduit Surgery 9/10

Galileo
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   Posted 4/20/2011 1:50 PM (GMT -6)   
My dad had cryo during its early days.
This was around 20 years ago. He's never had a recurrence. I don't know his pathology, because he doesn't know or care to know.
Galileo

Dx Feb 2006, PSA 9 @age 43
RRP Apr 2006 - Gleason 3+4, T2c, NX MX, pos margins
PSA 5/06 <0.1, 8/06 0.2, 12/06 0.6, 1/07 0.7.
Salvage radiation (IMRT) Jan-Mar 2007
PSA 9/2007 and thereafter <0.1
pcabefore50.blogspot.com

Purgatory
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   Posted 4/20/2011 1:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Galileo, my neighbor is not too keen on knowing any details either.
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06, 2/11 1.24, 4/11 3.81
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, 21 Catheters, Ileal Conduit Surgery 9/10
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