Not sure I buy this, but good news for coffee drinkers and PC

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   Posted 5/17/2011 7:02 PM (GMT -6)   
And of course, I haven't drank coffee in over 35 years, lol.

mr bill
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   Posted 5/17/2011 7:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Saw that on the evening news.  As they said, "if you don't like the answer, just wait awhile." Used to measure my daily consumption by 55 gallon drums, and it was industrial strength. Guess I was not one of the lucky ones. Since PC I am down to one cup a day.

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   Posted 5/17/2011 7:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Ah crap. And here I was cutting back on my afternoon java, starting tomorrow I'm back to 2 cups a day, woo hoo!
PSA 5.6 - 04/2010 - DRE positive
PSA 6.7 - 09/2010
Biopsy - 09/2010 - Age 53
T2b/c Gleason 7, 4+3
PSA 8.2 - 12/2010
RRP - 12/2010
pT3a, Gleason 7, 3+4, 20% PCa
Negative margins and seminal vesicles
RP 37.3 g
No further treatment recommended.
PSA <0.01 - 03/2011 - 3 month post-op

Tony Crispino
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   Posted 5/17/2011 7:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Dang that's another one. I love coffee, peppers, and mushrooms ~ all three proposed to be be anti-prostate cancer ~ and...

Well here I am...

Advanced Prostate Cancer at age 44 (I am 48 now)
pT3b,N0,Mx (original PSA was 19.8) EPE, PM, SVI. Gleason 4+3=7

Da Vinci Surgery ~ 2/16/2007
Adjuvant Radiation Therapy ~ IMRT Completed 8/07
Adjuvant Hormone Therapy ~ 28 months on Casodex and Lupron.
Undetectable PSA.


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   Posted 5/17/2011 7:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Maybe it's true but I drank a whole lot of coffee before my diagnosis.

I'm getting tired of all these studies. I suspect that if I had enough money I could commission a study that showed eating pure lard was good for PC. It's just a matter of selecting the right population and the right outcomes. Remember how the tobacco industry paid for studies showing nicotine was not the cause of lung cancer?
Age: 66
PSA: 7 tests over 2 years bounced around from 2.6 to 5.6
Biopsy 8 of 12 positive, Gleason 3+4, T2a
DaVinci August 2009, pathology Gleason 4+3, neg margins, T2c
Continent right away, ED
Viagra, Cialis did't work, Trimix works well
Post-surgery PSA:
3, month: undetectable <.1; 6 month: undetectable <.014 (ultrasensitive); 9, 12, 15 month: undetectable <.1; 18 and 19 month detectable .05.

English Alf
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   Posted 5/18/2011 6:04 AM (GMT -6)   
All my life I have eaten plenty of food and drunk plenty of drinks that are supposed to be good for you because they are high in anti-oxidants.

However the fact that I still got PCa does not mean that this latest study is in any way wrong. If anti-oxidants are good for you, then the conclusion I have to draw is that had I not done so, then my PCa would have been worse than it was and it would have hit me at a younger age.


Worried Guy
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   Posted 5/18/2011 6:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the redirect Steve. And thank you David for pointing this out.

Maybe I can cut back on drinking the boiled grass I mean, green tea.

If I had 6 cups of anything I'd wear a pattern on the floor to the bathroom.
Age: 58, Mar 35 yrs, 56 dx, PSA: 4/09 17.8 6/09 23.2
Biopsy: 6/09 7 of 12 Pos, 20-70%, Gleason 4+3 Bone, CT Neg
DaVinci RP: 7/09, U of Roch Med Ctr
Path Rpt: Glsn 3+4, pT3aNOMx, 56g, Tumor 2.5x1.8 cm both lobes and apex
EPE present, PNI extensive, Sem Ves, Vas def clear, Lymph 0/13
Incont: 200ml/day ED: Trimix
Post Surg PSA: 10/09 .04, 4/10 .04, 7/10 <0.01, 12/10 <0.01
AdVance Sling 1/10/11 Dry

Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 5/18/2011 7:47 AM (GMT -6)   

Brian Williams of NBC who does the Evening News-> I Love the guy.

As he was introducing the coffee store last night he started out with: "If you don't like one study - wait a couple of days and a differnt study will come out."

I like the fact that there is/was a study about helping prevent/cure prostate cancer or any cancer for that matter.

Right after the evening news - I watched a show that talked about how termits might be our friends... They produce a lot of energy while eating our houses...


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   Posted 5/18/2011 7:49 AM (GMT -6)   
This seems like pretty solid research with a big sample size. Note that the effect was most dramatic in reducing the most aggressive cancers.
I haven't got the original paper yet, but here is a more substantial link.

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   Posted 5/18/2011 8:01 AM (GMT -6)   
Here is the citation and the abstract:

Coffee Consumption and Prostate Cancer Risk and Progression in the Health Professionals Follow-up Study

Kathryn M. Wilson,
Julie L. Kasperzyk,
Jennifer R. Rider,
Stacey Kenfield,
Rob M. van Dam,
Meir J. Stampfer,
Edward Giovannucci and
Lorelei A. Mucci

J Natl Cancer Inst (2011) May 18, 2011 103 (10)


Background Coffee contains many biologically active compounds, including caffeine and phenolic acids, that have potent antioxidant activity and can affect glucose metabolism and sex hormone levels. Because of these biological activities, coffee may be associated with a reduced risk of prostate cancer.

Methods We conducted a prospective analysis of 47 911 men in the Health Professionals Follow-up Study who reported intake of regular and decaffeinated coffee in 1986 and every 4 years thereafter. From 1986 to 2006, 5035 patients with prostate cancer were identified, including 642 patients with lethal prostate cancers, defined as fatal or metastatic. We used Cox proportional hazards models to assess the association between coffee and prostate cancer, adjusting for potential confounding by smoking, obesity, and other variables. All P values were from two-sided tests.

Results The average intake of coffee in 1986 was 1.9 cups per day. Men who consumed six or more cups per day had a lower adjusted relative risk for overall prostate cancer compared with nondrinkers (RR = 0.82, 95% confidence interval [CI] = 0.68 to 0.98, Ptrend = .10). The association was stronger for lethal prostate cancer (consumers of more than six cups of coffee per day: RR = 0.40, 95% CI = 0.22 to 0.75, Ptrend = .03). Coffee consumption was not associated with the risk of nonadvanced or low-grade cancers and was only weakly inversely associated with high-grade cancer. The inverse association with lethal cancer was similar for regular and decaffeinated coffee (each one cup per day increment: RR = 0.94, 95% CI = 0.88 to 1.01, P = .08 for regular coffee and RR = 0.91, 95% CI = 0.83 to 1.00, P = .05 for decaffeinated coffee). The age-adjusted incidence rates for men who had the highest (?6 cups per day) and lowest (no coffee) coffee consumption were 425 and 519 total prostate cancers, respectively, per 100 000 person-years and 34 and 79 lethal prostate cancers, respectively, per 100 000 person-years.

Conclusions We observed a strong inverse association between coffee consumption and risk of lethal prostate cancer. The association appears to be related to non-caffeine components of coffee.
Age at diagnosis 66, PSA 5.5
Biopsy 12/08 12 cores, 8 positive
Gleason 3+4=7
CAT scan, Bone scan 1/09 both negative.

Robotic surgery 03/03/09 Catheter Out 03/08/09
Pathology: Lymph nodes & Seminal vesicles negative
Margins positive, Capsular penetration extensive Gleason 4+3=7
6 weeks: 1 pad/day, 1 pad/night -- mostly dry at night.
10 weeks: no pad at night -- slight leakage day/1 pad.
3 mo. PSA 0.0 - now light pads
6 mo. PSA 0.00 -- 1 light pad/day
9 mo. PSA 0.00 -- 1 light pad/day ED remains
12 mo. PSA 0.00 -- still one light pad and ED
16 mo PSA 0.00 -- light pad just for security, ED still an issue

Worried Guy
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   Posted 5/18/2011 10:01 AM (GMT -6)   
I can tell you for a fact that both green tea and coffee, while consumed at my kitchen table, have proven to be fatal for any member of the Rodentia Order disturbing or damaging my bird feeders. ;-)

What do Red Breasted Grosbeaks, Coyotes, Turkey Vultures, and Kimberly Clark executives all have in common?
They all benefit when I have an extra cup of hot drink.
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