Two days after Davinci RP

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   Posted 6/9/2011 5:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Surgery went well, came home the next day.
Not taking any pain pills, but gas pains are killing me.
What do bladder spasims feel like?
Passing some gas, but not when I need to most.
Guess you could say I had a bowl movement, as I thought I was farting and crap myself.
Taking anti-biotic, stool softener, and have meds for bladder spasisms if I need them.
Getting ready to go for a walk, and drinking lots of water.
Age: 55- good health.
Located in West Michigan Area
DRE 02/2011- no lumps, just enlarged prostate
PSA checked regularly last 8 years, ranged from 0.7 to 1.2
Needle Biopsy 02/2011- 12 samples. 10 OK.
GS 3+3=6 2 cores involving 5%
Stage T2a
DaVinci R.P. performed on 06/07/2011

Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 6/9/2011 6:03 AM (GMT -6)   
Welcome to the other side... Glad you made it OK... Get some rest and take it easy...

mr bill
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   Posted 6/9/2011 6:07 AM (GMT -6)   
Walking is the best thing you can do to help yourself.  Just do not overdo. Did they leave the JP drain in when you left?
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
Mr Bill

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   Posted 6/9/2011 6:09 AM (GMT -6)   
Welcome newbee :>
1. Most antibiotics you have to stay out of long/direct sunlght.
Walk in mornings and afternoons until off of antibiotics.
2. Don't drive for a while, and when you feel your ready do a very
short trip to get a feel of how your body will react.  It may be a delayed reaction.
3.  Yes, drink-walk-drink-walk.  I thought that was amusing advice at first.
But not any more.
4.  Difficult bowel movements can make you bleed.  Pain meds usually
cause constipation.  Use them sparingly, but use them when needed.
Glenn-AGE-53,NJ, PSA-4.2, FPSA-7%
4/09/2011 - Biopsy, 8 NEG, 4 POS (left), 2(3+3), 2(3+4)
5/23/2011 - Da-Vinci Surgery, Right Nerves Spared, Partial Left
5/25/2011 - PATH, pT2c, 4+3, 25% cancer,Confined, Margin-Lymph-Seminal NEG
5/31/2011 - Catheter Removed
6/01/2011 - UTI, CIPRO 500mg 2 a day for 10 Days
7/12/2011 - First Post PSA test

James C.
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   Posted 6/9/2011 6:12 AM (GMT -6)   
Welcome to the other side, hope you have an easy recovery and zero first numbers
James C, 64, East TN
Gonna Make Myself A Better Man
4/07: PSA 7.6, 7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% inv, lf. lobe, GS6
9/07: Nerve Spar. open RP, Path: pT2c, 110 gms., clear except:
Prob. microscopic inv.-left apical margin -GS6
3 Years: PSA's .04 each test until 4/10-.06, 9/10-.09, 12/10-.09, 2/11-.08, 5/11-.08
Bimix .30

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   Posted 6/9/2011 7:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Bitman, Congrats on getting it over with. Best of luck with your recovery.
Age 50
PSA 5.7
Biopsy 8 of 12, 6@3+3, 2@3+4
open RP scheduled for 7/12

Cajun Jeff
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   Posted 6/9/2011 7:27 AM (GMT -6)   
Bitman: Sounds like your doing GREAT! Walking will help you void the gas. Welcome to the other side. Always nice to see guys doing so well after a major surgery. Do keep us posted.

Cajun Jeff
9/08 PSA 5.4 referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3+4=7 1 positive core in 12 1% cancer core
10/08 Nerve-Sparing open radicalSurgery Path Report Downgrade 3+3=6 GS Stage pT2c margins clea
r3 month: PSA <0.1
19th month: PSA <0.1
2 year PSA <0.1
Only issue at this time is ED but getting better

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   Posted 6/9/2011 7:40 AM (GMT -6)   
The gas pains can be really bad, but walking does help, and the system should get back to normal soon.  Bladder spasms for me felt as if I had a desperate need to urinate, and then an almost painful sensation that I was urinating, even though the catheter was still in.  Others have described them as extremely painful.  If you have them, I think you'll know, and so be sure to call your doctor right away for a prescription.  Congratulations on your successful surgery, and best wishes for a speedy recovery.

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   Posted 6/9/2011 7:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Welcome to our side - get up and move around - that helps the gas. Otherwise it sounds like you are on the path to getting better.
I had fits with the bladder spasms - the biggest issue was that I didn't leak around the catheter tube, I flooded. That meant I was in depends pants ("adjustable" variety that opened on the sides) from first day home. They were completely unpredictable, and would come like a cramp in the gut. They pretty much ended once the catheter was out, so had to have been caused by irritation.
DaVinci 10/2009
My adjuvant IGRT journey (2010) -

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   Posted 6/9/2011 7:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Bitman: Welcome to the other side. Will respond to the question on bladder spasms since I had them. They feel like you have to go pee even though you have a catheter in and are peeing for all practical purposes. At times I would also get a sharp pain in the tip of my penis which is also associated with bladder spasms. I was given Levsin to help with this. It did help, but has its own side effects the worst of which for me was constipation. The spasms stopped after two weeks once the catheter was removed. Walking will help with the gas and get those bowels back to normal as soon as possible and as others have said, drink, walk, repeat...also get plenty of rest and just take it easy. Glad you are doing so well so soon after surgery.
Age 53- PSA 2/11 3.5
4/21/11 BX Path Report: 3 of 12 Left PCa , 3+3, 3+4, 4+4
4/29/11 Received PCa DX, G-8
5/18/11 open RP Performed, Right nerve bundle spared
5/24/11 Post Op Path Report: G-7(4+3) 7%, pT3a N0M0, EPE, PNI+, SVI-, Left margin <0.1mm from inked margin
6/1/11 Cath removed - 99.9% Dry.

Post Edited (rcroller) : 6/9/2011 7:48:31 AM (GMT-6)

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Date Joined Oct 2010
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   Posted 6/9/2011 8:45 AM (GMT -6)   
you are now a member of the "six small scar club".  You'll be instantly recognizable for a while to fellow club members at the beach.
I feel (and remember....yikes!) your (gas) pain.  No fun at all.  I had 4 days of pressure.  I even tried that disgusting warm milk with prune juice concoction that Tattman up in Canada recommended.  YUCK!
Welcome to the other side and good healing.
52 yr old, PSA 3.5, Gleason 6 with 3 of 4 top nodes (0%;1%;10%;1%) cancerous. Bottom 2 floors are clean.

PSA 7/08: 2.2; 7/09: 2.9; 7/10: 4.1; 11/10: 3.5

First post-op PSA =.00! 7 weeks after operation

DaVinci surgery at Yale 3/4/11. Dr. John Coleberg THE BEST!!!

45 gram gland weight
Gl 3+3
margins clear
no metastasis
5% of gland adenocarcinoma

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   Posted 6/9/2011 10:04 AM (GMT -6)   
welcome back, good luck as you continue to recover

in my twisted journey, i have literally experienced thousands of bladder spasms.

they generally feel like a lot of pressure directly in your bladder, sometimes a burning hurt, like your bladder might explode (dont worry it cant), and while you are with cath, it will feel like its trying to expell the catheter, which it cant. The balloon inside the bladder will prevent that. Dont be surprised if small amounts of urine seep out between the tip of your penis and the catheter tube, given enough of a spasm, it will try. Mine lasted anywhere from 10 to 15 seconds to as much as a full minute or so. I stayed on the drug ditropan the entire time on my 21 catheter voyage, it helped, but doesnt entirely prevent them. Once your cath is removed, that shouldn't be an issure

david in sc
Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06, 2/11 1.24, 4/11 3.81
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, 21 Catheters, Ileal Conduit Surgery 9/10

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Date Joined Jun 2008
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   Posted 6/9/2011 9:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Congratulations on the surgery!  Not all of us suffer exactly the same post-op issues but most of us share a variety of them.  It can be annoying and inconvenient/uncomfortable for a while.  But, things get better with time.  Just remain patient and take things as they come.  Don't try to push too hard too fast.
Age: 61 (58 at diagnosis - June, 2008)
April '08 PSA 4.8 ("free PSA" 7.9), up from 3.5 year prior
June '08 had biopsy, 2 days later told results positive but in less than 1% of sample (Gleason's 3+3=6)
Developed sepsis 2 days post-biopsy, seriously ill in hospital for 3 days
Dr. recommended robotic removal using da Vinci; Surgery 9/10/08
Northwestern Memorial Hospital, Chicago, IL; Dr. Robert Nadler, Urologist/Surgeon
Post-Op Gleason's: 3+3, Tertiary 4; Margins: Free ; Bladder & Urethral: Free
Seminal vesicles: Not involved; Lymphatic/Vascular Invasion: Not involved
Tumor: T2c; location: Bilateral; Volume: 20%; Catheter: Removed 12-days after surgery
Incontinent: Yes (1 to 2 light (woman's style) pad per day)
ED: Combination of Cialis and MUSE (alprostadil) once weekly: started 9-27-08
Returned to work 9-29-08 (18-19 days post-op)
PSA test result, post-op, 10/08: 0.0; 12/08: 0.0; 4/09: 0.0; 9/09: 0.0; 3/10: 0.0; 9/10: 0.0
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