Let's Help Ourselves to a Better Catheter Leg Bag.

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   Posted 6/24/2011 1:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello All;
As many of you might already know, I'm back on a catheder. (see Topic Oh No, blood in urine)
I'm now equiped with a BARD leg bag with which I'm not happy with. I have written the company: www.bardmedical.com with the following:


"After prostate surgery, the BARD cath was installed along with a leg bag and a 2 litre night bag. I find the strap system on the leg bag

completely useless. If the straps were around 2 inches in diameter, with an equally wide velcro sustem, perhaps the bag wouldn't keep falling down and pulling on the cath. The current size of straps and velcro simply cannot do the job so now I have to use DucTape to tape the strapsto my leg. (outch, when removing) Also, why not include a two foot tube extension so the bag can be attached lower, top strap just below the knee and the other just below the calf area. Makes draining easier plus the calf itself will keep it from slipping down. (Not recommended when wearing shorts though.)


Also, while wearing the bag above the knee, in my case the bag is too long and interferes with my knee movements. If it was made somewhat WIDER and therefore somewhat shorter and still maintaing the same capacity, it would be consideralble more comfortable."

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Here is their response:


To: jbaljeu@ebtech.net
Subject: RE: Bard Medical Website Feedback Submission


"Thank you for your interest and your suggestion. It has been passed along to the appropriate people. We always appreciate recommendations

from our customers.  We strive to produce better devices to make lifebetter for the patient.  Again, thank you - The BARD Medical Web Team."

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If all of you reading this would copy and paste this  to:

Bard.Medical@crbard.com  and also to:


Perhaps, just perhaps will they get serious and make the modifications.


Wearing a cath with associated accessories is no joy and doing this might just make our situations a bit more tolerable.


A appreciate your help.

Jerry in Canada.




Age, only 71.
July 2009, PSA 9.1, free ratio 0.16
September GLEASON 4+4=8, T2A
Prostate 44cc.
Calcium: 2.46  (range: 2.20 - 2.65 mmol/L)
25 Hydroxy Vitamin D: 102 (range: sufficiency:
76 - 250 nmol/L)
Bone Scan: Negative
CT Scan scheduled for Dec. 1st. Negative.
Started Casodex 50mg. on Nov. 6, first pill of 30.
Got Lupron 22.5mg ( 90 day ) on  November 19.
No real side effects as of Dec. 15 except dry skin and hair but getting quite 'porky' in the belt area even though now I go to the gym, three times a week. Also I dont have a need to shave anymore so now I can save my 'shaving' allowance and direct it to my stash of Depends !
Christmas Day got my first hot flashes. Thanks Santa!
Open surgery done on Jan. 20th. by Dr. J. Chin at London's University Hospital.
Cath removel scheduled for Feb. 8th. Yes, I know,
that will be 19 days. Dr. is out of country until then.
Pathology Report:
Gleason Score: cannot be determined due to hormone therapy effects. ???????
Extraprostatic Extension:
present, left radial, multifocal
present, left basal, multifocal
Resection Margins:
Apical: involved by invasive carcinoma, multifocal
Bladder Neck: involved by invasive carcinoma, unifocal on left side.Other: non-tumoural prostatic present at resection margin.
Perineural Invasion: present.
Seminal Vesicle Invasion: absent
Lymphovascular Invasion: absent
Lymph Node Status: no malignancy in regional lymph nodes
Additional path. findings:
high grade prostatic intraepithelial neoplasia
Pathology Stage: yp T3a NO MX
Radialogist appointment was on Friday Feb. 26 with Dr. Glenn Bauman in London.
Got another Lupron 90 day shot today and he wants to start IMRT soon. CT Scan plus measure scheduled in about 3 weeks. ( march 15)
First PSA test since surgery on March 18th.
with the results of <0.03 !!!
Started a Facebook page for bikers with prostate issues at:
IMRT to started on May 10. Going to get 33 units.

Post Edited (JB71) : 6/24/2011 1:19:44 PM (GMT-6)

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   Posted 6/24/2011 1:37 PM (GMT -6)   
When I was given my leg bag there was no extension, as you observed as well. So the bag would have had to have been worn above the knee. I discovered later that a short extension did exist, but that the doctor did not specify it on the standard post-op checkout list, so they did not give me one. If I had known to ask, they would have added that, but I didn't ...

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Date Joined Oct 2008
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   Posted 6/24/2011 2:29 PM (GMT -6)   

after wearing 21 caths, and no telling how many leg bags, i became a coniseiur of leg bags. The best ones I used, didn't use velcro at all. They had elastic straps, with a button, and various button holes. You could adjust it the way you wanted, and I never had any problems of them falling down. The larger leg bags held up to 800 ml, which ended up being too heay, the ones I liked best held 400 ml. I always wore them below the knee, with an extension. Also, you can get a catheter plug, so you can be bag free when in the shower. They re inexpensive. Also I ordered online, specila swivel holders for the cath, they fit right into the "Y" of the cath, and swiveled with my every movement, never any tugging or pulling or coming loose. Made my life easier when I was on the caths long term.

good luck,

Age: 58, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 7 of 7 Positive, 40-90%, Gleason 4+3
open RP: 11/08, on catheters for 101 days
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incont & ED: None
Post Surgery PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA: 1/10 .12, 4/8 .04, 8/6 .06, 2/11 1.24, 4/11 3.81, 6/11 5.8
Latest: 6 Corr Surgeries to Bladder Neck, SP Catheter since 10/1/9, SRT 39 Sess/72 gy ended 11/09, 21 Catheters, Ileal Conduit Surgery 9/10

Worried Guy
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Total Posts : 3730
   Posted 6/24/2011 3:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Where was it made? It sounds like a cheap "Made In China for the lowest price" deal.
I bought Tygon tubing at Lowe's and cut it to the length I needed. That worked for me. the elastic with holes that David mentioned worked best. You can get a strips of elastic at Joanne Fabric if you don't have any.

Velco is great for rigid items like holsters but not for wrapping around a leg that moves.

I'm sorry you need to worry about this.
Age: 58, Mar 35 yrs, 56 dx, PSA: 4/09 17.8 6/09 23.2
Biopsy: 6/09 7 of 12 Pos, 20-70%, Gleason 4+3 Bone, CT Neg
DaVinci RP: 7/09, U of Roch Med Ctr
Path Rpt: Glsn 3+4, pT3aNOMx, 56g, Tumor 2.5x1.8 cm both lobes and apex
EPE present, PNI extensive, Sem Ves, Vas def clear, Lymph 0/13
Incont: 200ml/day ED: Trimix
Post Surg PSA: 10/09 .04, 4/10 .04, 7/10 <0.01, 12/10 <0.01
AdVance Sling 1/10/11 Dry

Regular Member

Date Joined Nov 2009
Total Posts : 206
   Posted 6/24/2011 3:54 PM (GMT -6)   
The BARD items are an Ontario Hospital standard issue. You dont get an option and when I asked for a hose extension was told they had never seen any. The BARD products are made in Mexico.

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Date Joined Jan 2006
Total Posts : 650
   Posted 6/24/2011 3:58 PM (GMT -6)   
X2 what David said. What I ended up with was a set of Fitz-All leg bag straps ( about 2" wide), these have buttons on them for bag attachment and the bag with button holes that worked pretty good with this was a Uro-Safe 18oz (or about 400cc). Hollister makes a good bag too but this bag has buttons on it and works just with hollister's own fabric elastic straps which are OK but after a few days they begin to cut into your leg. The Fitz-All strap I mentioned does not do this. So either of these set ups would be a lot better than duck tape!! But the Fitz-All is the most comfortable. I wore these for about a year. The tube holder or catheter holder that David mentioned is helpful too. Try a Statlock folley holder or a Cath-Secure holder. As far as what you were saying, the mfg just makes the stuff, the people that put it on you are the ones who don't seem to know what products are available. If you want to buy the items I mentioned you can Google them but I bought most of my urinary supplies from Allegro Medical suppy, on line. Really easy!
Sorry to hear you are in need of these things, I was real glad to say by-by(or at least for now) to this stuff. I hope this helps.
06-08 1st biopsy neg psa 4
10-09 psa 5.5 2nd biopsy 1/12 pos. 10%, G(4+3) age 65
12-15-09 RRP Tulane NOLA Dr Lee
Path, 1%, clr marg, no EPE, no SVI, nodes cl, G(4+3)
100% incontinent @ 12 months
ED, pre-op severe, post op total
10/10 Dr Boone, Methodist recomended AUS
AUS/ IPP performed 1/11/11 Methodist Houston
post op psa's 0.04,<0.1,<0.1,<0.01@12 mo.
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