I have beat the drum as an advocate for lower sugar and more importantly for lower insulin, and for more or less of certain nutrients, so much over the years that I feel I should also repeat a caveat that I have posted a few times before. Heck, I may have even already said it in this long thread, if not certainly in a similar thread:
More or less sugar, insulin, fats of various types, and nutrients in food or supplements, or even harder to control things like the toxins in our environment, might indeed influence how likely we are to get various cancers, or how successful we will be in slowing down(curing?) a given cancer once it occurs. Or not. Proof from unbiased sources in the form of large enough RCTs are not likely to appear, and nothing less will be accepted as proof by some folks.
However, I also feel that, particularly on the subject of sugar, and even insulin, that there are other factors that dwarf even those factors into insignificance. Even the doctor we have been quoting, the one with brain cancer who lived about
20 years after being given just a short time once all traditional treatments had failed and was told nothing he could do mattered, he still died from brain cancer. It was impressive how long he lived, but he still was unable to stop it in the end. But the point I have made before is more personal: nothing whatsoever was of any apparent help when my 40 year old daughter in law died of Mesothelioma. The chemo added lots of misery, but can you really go much faster than 6 months after diagnoses? ( But there is probably proof
that it helps and is worth the SEs and cost). However, she was also in ketosis at least until she ran out of body fat, and probably had almost no sugar input and produced little to know insulin not only after diagnoses, but probably for the year or so before diagnoses. Diagnoses with the disease most often seen with older men who worked with asbestos. (She was a social worker, had recently gone back to school for her masters degree) We knew she was in Ketosis before diagnoses because I got her to check it when she lost such rapid weight after weight loss surgery. It occurred to me that since she was only able to eat such tiny amounts of food, and did not seem to want it or ever be hungry after the surgery, that this probably led to and indicated ketosis. If she was eating so little, and that was balanced, it had to mean she was also eating far less carbs than required to maintain a normal blood sugar, and all body stores of glycogen had been used up, so she had to be in ketosis, and she was. That also almost surely meant her blood insulin was very low, as low as it gets.
But all of that(and the best, most expensive medical treatment) made no apparent difference in her clinical course. Unless you want to say that if she had been eating a lot of sugar ( or maybe not had chemo) she would have only lived 4 miserable months, instead of 6.
So though I advocate for less blood insulin( which goes hand in hand with less sugar/carbs) being maybe a good thing in the fight against various cancers, probably including PC, and almost certainly being the main factor in the fight against diabetes and all the evils(including cancers) that it leads to, still, it is obviously almost a worthless concept when it comes to some situations. Maybe worthless when it comes to lowering odds of getting certain specific cancers? Or maybe worthless for any and all cancers at some certain stage? Because, after all, don't most people who die of cancer, often die of(and certainly have) cachexia, and just stop eating? Which is very likely accompanied by very low blood sugar and insulin. So don't many(if not all?) folks dying from cancer end up on a low insulin, low sugar, ketosis diet at some point, even if not on purpose?
So, it seems to me that if low blood insulin, lower blood sugars and/or ketosis is of any benefit in the cancer war(I think it is), it still, at the very least, has it's limits.
PSA 10.9 ~112013
Bx on 112013 at age ~65yrs, with 5 of 12 pos with one G9(5+4), 1 PNI, T2B.
RALP with lymph nodes at Vanderbilt 021914. (nodes clear, SV+, G9 down graded to 4+5, cut wide, but 1 tiny foci right at the edge of margin ) Pros. 106.7 gms!
At 15 months, not wearing a pad most days, mostly dry
PSA <.01 on 6/14 and all until 9/15 = .01, still .01 9/16, .02 on 3/17,6/17,10/17
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