Thanks Halbert, that's interesting,
Rule number 3 seems to show why it should NOT have been locked?
"Respect other members' opinions regarding treatment decisions. Decisions about health and well-being are highly personal choices. >>>We should respect all points of view<<<. Flaming will not be tolerated."
I didn't flame anyone, unless saying Wal-Mart doesn't sell quality is flaming. That's more of a fact. I said there were false statements, is that flaming? If multiple doctors that I see are happy with my protocol and especially my results, how can we say here that we must dismiss any and all discussions of this kind?
We can drop it, I need to find a new place to play.
Last thing, with a psa that once got to 14, my John Hopkins grad uro says I have the lowest 4k score he has ever seen. Just coincidence...probably?
Well, if you are leaving you may not even read this, but I feel I must make the comment while the thread is still
open. And BTW, I have no problems with this subject you want to discuss. But on the subject of certain low quality supplements, and the fact that many seem to believe that most or many supplements(high quality or not) don't even contain what is advertised: I had been taking WM vitamin D @ 2000IU/day for a few months when I had my vitamin D levels checked for the first time(I wish I had them checked a year or 2 before I even started taking vitamin D). I was a bit disappointed that my level- even with that much supplementation was only
30 ng/ml. I now realize that is not all that surprising from what other folks have told me about
their pre-supplementation blood tests and how much they had to take just to get it up to 25 or 30, even sometimes when taking prescript
ion VitD. I now realize that most likely I was deficient most of my life. Anyway, I bumped my WM brand Vit D3 up to 10,000, and had my level checked again shortly before my RP: 80 ng/ml! Which I thought was a little higher than I was shooting for so I backed it off to 5000 IU/day, unless I am getting a lot of sunshine, then I usually cut back even more. (There is a lot of sunshine to be had most of the year where I live, and hiking and yard work gets me out in it a lot)
Point is, even what I normally would consider a really low quality supplement had no problems getting my levels quite high. So there is for sure some Vitamin D3 in those even "low quality/cheap" pills. Also, can you imagine the potential law suit to certain Giant companies if it was proven that their supplements were bogus or even contained harmful substances? That would be easy money if you lived through the bad supplements!
And also FWIW, if you are still hanging around here, do a search and find the poll I did a while back asking for guys who had their vitamin D blood levels checked at or near the time of their PC diagnosis but hopefully before they started supplementing. Though proving nothing- too small a sample etc- I thought the results were pretty interesting.
Personally, Tommy, I find the subject you have been trying to discuss quite interesting. There is actually another thread active on this subject, by Pratoman I believe. Good luck with your research, Brother!
Bill in mS
PSA 10.9 ~112013
Bx on 112013 at age ~65yrs, with 5 of 12 pos with one G9(5+4), 1 PNI, T2B.
RALP with lymph nodes at Vanderbilt 021914. (nodes clear, SV+, G9 down graded to 4+5, cut wide, but 1 tiny foci right at the edge of margin ) Pros. 106.7 gms!
At 15 months, not wearing a pad most days, mostly dry
PSA <.01 on 6/14 and all until 9/15 = .01, still .01 9/16, .02 on 3/17
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