Friday humor: *Cats linked to spread of prostate cancer" (tabloid headline)

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81GyGuy
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   Posted 10/6/2017 6:52 AM (GMT -7)   
Link below is to a London newspaper's sensible put-down of a tabloid's specious reasoning as to how cats could be linked to causing PCa.

The tabloid apparently starts by stating, correctly, that the Toxoplasma Gondii microbe exists in cats and their litter boxes, and that this microbe can be responsible for some pretty serious human ailments, most notably birth defects if it gets into pregnant women. That much is true.

But then the tabloid goes on to point out that "… researchers at Indiana University have confirmed a link between Toxoplasma Gondii and cysts forming in the prostate gland."

Therefore, the tabloid claims, men who have been around cats or handled their litter must have picked up the microbe, and the result is it's giving them cysts and probably PCa.

Nonsense, the London paper rightly points out, noting that mere association such as this is not proof. Actually, there could be such an association, but tabloid writing such as this does not qualify as scientific proof of that, the paper notes

The paper then advises its readership "… for anyone reading this, make sure you fact check stories like these, do some digging, inform yourself and only then make your judgments."

Hear, hear!

www.kittymad.com/2017/06/02/cats-now-linked-to-spread-of-prostate-cancer-fake-news-or-fact/
Age: 71
Chronic prostatitis (age 60 on)
BPH w/ urinary obstruction, 6/2011
TURP, 7/2011
Ongoing high PSA, 7/2011-12/2011
Biopsy, 12/2011: positive 3/12 (90%, 70%, 5%)
Gleason 6(3+3), T1c
No mets, PCa likely still organ contained
IMRT w/ HT (Lupron), 4/2012-6/2012
PSAs (since post-IMRT): 0.1 or lower

InTheShop
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   Posted 10/6/2017 10:26 AM (GMT -7)   
hummm, I don't know.

I have 5 cats ...
smile

Andrew
I'll be in the shop.
Age 57, 52 at DX
PSA:
4.2 10/11, 1.9 6/12, 1.2 12/12, 1.0 5/13, .6 11/13,
.7 5/14, .5 10/14, .5 4/15, .3 10/15, .3 4/16, .4 10/16, .4 5/17
G 3+4
Stage T1C
2 out of 14 cores positive
Treatment IGRT - 2/2012
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alephnull
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   Posted 10/6/2017 10:44 AM (GMT -7)   
I also have had 5 cats over the last 25 years.

Hmmmmmm........

Last cat is gone, I wonder if I'll magically recover now.
PSA at diagnosis 20.6, age 54 in 2013, 12 out of 12 cores positive
My PSA Curve
Robotic prostatectomy 11/2013, all positive except bladder neck invasion
Degarelix two months, 2 years Lupron, Radiation after 18 months
GS 9 - 4+5 , Stage pT3b N1 M1c - Undetctable 41 months
PSA rise <0.1 to 0.18 to .71, last rise in 4 months
Csodex n Lupron

Sunbird
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   Posted 10/6/2017 11:16 AM (GMT -7)   
There once was a cat with PCa
Who always wanted to have his own way
He crapped in my shoe
Which made me irate
Now I've found..I'm a gleason 8
9/96 Age 48, Colonoscopy shows suspicious mass in cecum
9/96 14" of colon surgically removed
1 of 5 lymph nodes positive & pathology shows stage III, Dukes C Adenocarcinoma. Took 18 chemo sessions
5/00 Met to left lung followed by surgical removal of upper left lobe and now I'm stage IV & declined 24 chemo sessions
11/09 PSA @ 4ng/ml diagnosed gleason 3 & 3 upgraded to 3 & 4 at pathology after RP

Gear
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   Posted 10/6/2017 12:24 PM (GMT -7)   
A litter of one liners could be made about this suggestive association....
DX 9/2011 @ age 50, PSA: 2.1, 10/6/2011 RP Da-Vinci
4-3 Gleason, PT2C, -SV, -Mar,+PI, NX... <.02 first 4+ years
Start SRT@ PSA 0.25, 38 Sessions-68.4 Gy, Finished 02/1/17
PSA: 5/17-.12, 8/17-.031,

Worried Guy
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   Posted 10/6/2017 6:14 PM (GMT -7)   
My son had a cat,
Who's name was Squish.
That turned my brat,
Into a soft knish.
smilewinkgrin

J

geop
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   Posted 10/6/2017 11:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey I adore my 3 cats who are my best friends. Why do people like to pick on cats? Probably because they are smarter than we are. HA!
diagnosed on 11/11/14- PSA 209, 55 years old
Biopsy on 11/21/14 with 8 cores GL 3+4 and 4 cores 4+4
mets on lower spine, left pelvis and lymph
HT of Firmagon and Casodex strated on 12/4/14
1/5/15 PSA down to 1.2, T-63,
3-15 to 12-2016 PSA remains at <0.02., 5-23-17 <0.02, 9-14-17 <0.02 Still on Firmagon (Degarelix) and Casodex.

halbert
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   Posted 10/7/2017 3:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Dogs have owners, cats have staff.
Age at Diagnosis: 56
RALP on 2/17/15, BJC St. Louis, Dr. Figenshau
58.5g, G3+4, 20%, 4 quadrants involved
PSA 3/10/15: 0.10
5/18/15: <.04
8/24/15: <.04
11/30/15: <.04
2/29/16: <0.04
8/30/16: <0.04
2/15/17: <0.006
8/22/17: <0.006
My Story: www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=35&m=3300024

JNF
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   Posted 10/8/2017 4:08 AM (GMT -7)   
A few weeks ago our wonderful Maine Coon, Spencer, departed this world after 15 years. If he was the cause of my PCa it is well worth it for the good times he brought to us.
PSA 59 on 8-26-2010 age 60. Biopsy 9-8-2010 12/12 positive, 20-80% involved, PNI in 3 cores, G 3+3,3+4,and 4+3=G7, T2b.
Eligard and Jalyn started on 10-7-2010. IMRT to prostate and lymph nodes started on 11-8-2010, HDR Brachytherapy December 6 and 13, 2010.
PSA < .1 since February 2011
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