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Pratoman
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   Posted 11/8/2017 12:03 PM (GMT -7)   
I caved. about 5 days of beard growth, combined with my quite long hair, at this point, really made me look homeless. And with appointments today with 2 "A" clients, along with a third tomorrow, and a trip to NC to see a AA client next week, i needed to look presentable.

Sorry guys, my hearts in the right place, what can i tell ya
Dx Age 64 Nov 2014, 4.3
BX 3 of 12 cores positive original pathologyG6, G6, G8 (3+5)
downgraded to 3+3=6 by tDr Epstein, JH
RALP with Dr Ash Tewari Jan 6, 2015
Post surgical pathology – G7 (3+4), ECE, Margivns, LN, SV all negative
PSA @ 6 weeks 2/15, .<02, remained <0.02 until January 2017, .02, repeat Feb 2017, still .02. May 2017-.033, August 2017- .033
Decipher test, low risk, .37 score

NKinney
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   Posted 11/8/2017 12:35 PM (GMT -7)   
awww...to bad. Good try anyhow! Honestly, one man's opinion, but long hair makes one look more like a vagrant. Beards are not only hip, but they can be sophisticated. You coulda trimmed it down to a goatee or van****, which some people think makes you look "professorial." (On the other hand, I think those looks like a mouth vagina.)

Scientifically: www.ehbonline.org/article/S1090-5138(13)00022-6/abstract?cc=y

Post Edited (NKinney) : 11/8/2017 12:39:41 PM (GMT-7)


81GyGuy
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   Posted 11/8/2017 12:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Pratoman –

If you want to go to the trouble, I suppose you could look into getting what they call "costume beards and mustaches." That is, fake whiskers, which you can put on or take off at your pleasure.

I googled

fake beards and mustaches

And got a bunch of hits, and some sites selling the things..

That way you can wear it when you want to bring attention to Movember, and ditch it when clients come calling.
Age: 71
Chronic prostatitis (age 60 on)
BPH w/ urinary obstruction, 6/2011
TURP, 7/2011
Ongoing high PSA, 7/2011-12/2011
Biopsy, 12/2011: positive 3/12 (90%, 70%, 5%)
Gleason 6(3+3), T1c
No mets, PCa likely still organ contained
IMRT w/ HT (Lupron), 4/2012-6/2012
PSAs (since post-IMRT): 0.1 or lower

garyi
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Total Posts : 238
   Posted 11/8/2017 5:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Not only am I not shaving my new salt and pepper stubble, I'm also wearing a light blue prostate cancer wrist band for the first time.

Let the awareness and discussions multiply! Lots of good feedback while I'm at the National Cancer Institute!!
70 years old @ Dx, LUTS for 7 years
PSA's never over 3.0
Ulcerative Colitis since 1973
TURP 2/16, G3+4 discovered,
3T MRI fusion guided biopsy 6/16
14 cores; G 3+3, one G3+4, Grade T1b
Second 3T MRI 1/17
RALP 7/17 Dr. Gonzaglo The Univ of Miami
G3+4 Organ confined
pT2c pNO pMn/a
Mostly Dry
10 week PSA .32
12 week PSA .40
14 week PSA .42
It's called Persistent PSA
Decipher & DCFPyL PET Scan

NKinney
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   Posted 11/9/2017 4:18 PM (GMT -7)   
A couple days ago I reported on preparing for a presentation I gave today...
NKinney said...
I am giving a presentation to about 50-75 people on Thursday. On the title slide, I changed the date from "November 9, 2017" to "Movember 9, 2017" and I added THIS (a small version) under the date.


The presentation went well, thank you, and the audience ended up being about 75-80-ish. When I talked about Movember in the opening slide, someone in the audience offered to buy me a razor. Glad I added that...

halbert
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   Posted 11/12/2017 4:40 AM (GMT -7)   
Well, the itch is subsiding. I'm going to try my luck with the razor this morning to trim my neck and cheekbones. Wife says I'm still scruffy looking, and she's looking forward to December 1.
Age at Diagnosis: 56
RALP on 2/17/15, BJC St. Louis, Dr. Figenshau
58.5g, G3+4, 20%, 4 quadrants involved
PSA 3/10/15: 0.10
5/18/15: <.04
8/24/15: <.04
11/30/15: <.04
2/29/16: <0.04
8/30/16: <0.04
2/15/17: <0.006
8/22/17: <0.006
My Story: www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=35&m=3300024

Skypilot56
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   Posted 11/12/2017 5:13 AM (GMT -7)   
HA HA the wife and daughter in law are calling me Santa Claus cause it has turned all white!! The grandson just calls me old man! LOL Hey at least we can still grow one hey?
Male 61 DX @ 60
Father had PC
2002. Psa. .08 Enlarged Prostrate
2014. Psa. 3.8
2016. Psa. 19
3-08-17 RP Mayo Clinic Mn
Path Report: Gleason 9, pt3b, Seminal vessels and one nerve removed, negative margins, 35 lymph nodes removed no cancer, Prostrate 45 grams
4-20-17 Incarcerated Umbilical Hernia
6-13-17 1st psa check 0.13
7-19-17 psa 0.12 MRI clear
10-11-17 psa 0.16
10-12-17 Lupron started

NKinney
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   Posted 11/13/2017 9:59 AM (GMT -7)   
I did some out-of-state traveling this weekend to see a friend...we went together to an ACC basketball game (season opener) Friday night, and a SEC football game Saturday at noon...so in addition to the airport coming and going, I was in a lot of crowds over the last several days.

It seemed like I saw a LOT of guys with a "heavy stubble" about the same as mine. I only brought it up once all weekend...with the guy sitting next to me at the football game; I'd say he was about mid-40s in age. I asked him, "Are you doing Movember?" and he replied "Yup." He told me his dad has prostate cancer. We weren't real chatty as we were cheering for opposite teams, but it was a good guess on my part about his stubble length.

alephnull
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   Posted 11/13/2017 12:19 PM (GMT -7)   
My daughter is the only one that has noticed. We hadn't seen her since October, but when she saw me she commented hows' Movember going. She cares!!

For you Facebook folk, here's a look at mine. Forgive the dashing profile.

/www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1696660933717902&set=a.949590181758318.1073741834.100001220347407&type=3&theater

NKinney
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   Posted 11/13/2017 12:25 PM (GMT -7)   
alephnull said...
We hadn't seen her since October, but when she saw me she commented hows' Movember going. She cares!!



cute!

smilewinkgrin

NKinney
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   Posted 11/14/2017 7:52 PM (GMT -7)   
By the way guys, not only is it "Movember," the combination of moustache & November, but it is also "No Nut November". No mast3rbation for a month...both men and women. Well, actually, there is a 3-strikes rule. And sex with a partner is just fine.

And don't confuse this with "New Life November" which is a 30-day "rebotting" effort to break p0rn addiction.

It's confusing. No wonder the Movember participation at HW/PC is so low...there is too much competition...!

LINK

NKinney
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   Posted 11/15/2017 2:07 PM (GMT -7)   
I went to a monthly Board meeting last night—I'm a Board member for a local non-profit community organization. I got there a little early, and two other Board members were there, both women, and of course they asked immediately about the beard (hadn't seen either in a month)...to which of course I replied with a short conversation about Movember.

They both said that I look like Kenny Rogers, and then they quickly added that they meant "a younger Kenny Rogers" since his got all grey. I replied that I hope that also meant before he had that hideous plastic surgery failure. They clarified that it was due to the cut of my beard on my neck.

Our organization's Executive Director (who also sports a heavy stubble-length beard, for as long as I've known him) walked in and the conversation went on about beard grooming. The women, who both said their husbands had never had beards, seemed to be quite enthralled about the 2-step process of shaving one's neck below the growth line daily, and periodically trimming it back above the growth line...which I hadn't done yet. After 15-days, mine is about ready, however, for trimming back to maintain that 10-day "heavy stubble" look, which according to studies women find the most attractive. ["Heavy stubble is actually the sexual bomb!" declared a study published in the May 2014 edition of Evolution & Human Behavior, which insists that the "heavy stubble" phase is where male attractiveness peaks.]

I think Kenny Rogers was actually a bit beyond peak, in several ways...

Post Edited (NKinney) : 11/15/2017 2:12:51 PM (GMT-7)


NKinney
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   Posted 11/16/2017 6:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Helloooooo.......Anyone home???



Reaching out to those guys who said they are "in" for MOVEMBER. What's your update? How's it going?


alephnull...thanks for the story of your daughter!

Skypilot56...it's a little early for Santa, but ok I have been hearing Christmas music

NowhereMan...where ya been?

Wings of Eagles...still out there?

DYank...still out there?

halbert...what's the latest with you? Any stories?

Dewayne...still out there?

RobLee...what's goin' on?

garyi...how's that salt & pepper going?




Right now, I think we still have more posts from guys making excuses why they won't participate in MOVEMBER than we have participant posts!

c'mon guys, we can do better!

Skypilot56
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   Posted 11/16/2017 7:01 PM (GMT -7)   
NKinney mine is still growing long past the heavy stubble stage kinda at this stage not really worried about looking to sexy! LOL

Larry
Male 61 DX @ 60
Father had PC
2002. Psa. .08 Enlarged Prostrate
2014. Psa. 3.8
2016. Psa. 19
3-08-17 RP Mayo Clinic Mn
Path Report: Gleason 9, pt3b, Seminal vessels and one nerve removed, negative margins, 35 lymph nodes removed no cancer, Prostrate 45 grams
4-20-17 Incarcerated Umbilical Hernia
6-13-17 1st psa check 0.13
7-19-17 psa 0.12 MRI clear
10-11-17 psa 0.16
10-12-17 Lupron started

halbert
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   Posted 11/16/2017 7:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Still growing, I've experimented with shaving my cheekbones and from "two fingers above the adams apple and down". Wife says it's like kissing a brillo pad. (not impressed). Had several people ask why, and a few actual conversations about my story as a PC survivor.

Don't know what I'll do two weeks from tomorrow.

Dreamerboy
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   Posted 11/16/2017 7:55 PM (GMT -7)   
While I don't always take part, I've been participating this year and joined a group effort at work. I don't think fundraising is the only motive, I see it as a way to see that prostate cancer gains more recognition.

Personally, I would like to see more celebrities or people in the public take part. For example, it might have an impact if the local newscasters, politicians, or movie actors took part. I think the women have their act together much more in this regard - they've gained tons of support with the pink ribbon campaign.
B-year: 1959 PSA
4 years AS; following Ornish/Michael Milken-style diet
RARP March 2015 after biopsy showed tiny amount of G7

Post Edited (Dreamerboy) : 11/16/2017 7:58:12 PM (GMT-7)


NKinney
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   Posted 11/16/2017 7:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Skypilot56 & halbert, thanks for adding your voices...! [And Dreamerboy! We posted only a few minutes apart, and I missed yours last night...thanks!]


After my last post, I tuned in to Monday night's The Late Show with Stephen Colbert (On Demand replay). I've been to The Late Show live in NYC at the Ed Sullivan Theater, and watch it regularly. I'm sure I've seen 80-90% of all the shows he's put on in the close to 2 years he's been on. (Was also a regular watcher of Colbert's predecessor show.)

Anyhow, Monday's was a very good show; VP Joe Biden was the first guest (powerful history between Biden and Colbert), and Elton John was 2nd guest and also performed 2 songs. Elton John was the first concert I ever went to, following the release of Goodbye Yellow Brick Road.

Elton and his entire band were sporting fake mustaches—Elton had a huge fu manchu—during the first song "Crocodile Rock." Elton couldn't hit those high notes (Laaaa, la la la la la, la la la la la, la la la la la), but he's a legend.

Thanks for the MOVEMBER tip-of-the-hat, Elton!

Read and watch HERE. The article says Elton wasn't planning on playing Crocodile Rock, but learned backstage in advance that it was Bo Biden's favorite song, and switched things up...

Post Edited (NKinney) : 11/17/2017 7:10:01 AM (GMT-7)


garyi
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Date Joined Jun 2017
Total Posts : 238
   Posted 11/17/2017 2:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Stubble is looking more salt than pepper, but that's OK. I'm getting more inquiries about my light blue PCa wrist band than about my scraggly beard. That's OK also.

Since my ED is minimal, I'm very interested in the ten day "heavy stubble", 'peak male attractiveness', trimming back procedure that women find most attractive. So is my wife. ;-)

Details please!
70 years old @ Dx, LUTS for 7 years
PSA's never over 3.0
Ulcerative Colitis since 1973
TURP 2/16, G3+4 discovered,
3T MRI fusion guided biopsy 6/16
14 cores; G 3+3, one G3+4, Grade T1b
Second 3T MRI 1/17
RALP 7/17 Dr. Gonzaglo The Univ of Miami
G3+4 Organ confined
pT2c pNO pMn/a
Mostly Dry
10 week PSA .32
12 week PSA .40
14 week PSA .42
It's called Persistent PSA
Decipher & DCFPyL PET Scan

Archer48
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Date Joined Jul 2017
Total Posts : 17
   Posted 11/18/2017 9:05 AM (GMT -7)   
I have a wicked T Bar moustache right now. It rocks. Good way to get conversation started about PC, goes like this , what is that hideous thing on your face,,,, well funny you should ask, i have pc , have you had your psa done....
Dx at 48 ,psa 5.8, 4 cores positive , 2 at 6 and 2 at 4 plus 3 , 2-3 mm . T1c , going for ldr brachytherapy

NKinney
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   Posted Today 10:32 AM (GMT -7)   
Funny story...walked into the gym this weekend and saw 2 friends/neighbors from my small village chatting together. Both were sporting "heavy stubble" beards of about the same length as mine. I've known both guys >20 years (we all are about the same age and have kids close in age), and I've never seen either guy anything other than clean-shaven.

Jumped into the conversation they were having and had a quick laugh about how widespread Movember is amongst men our age (of course)! But the conversation they were having when I walked up was about none other than beard grooming. They were eyeballing each other's neckline trimming. When I walked up, they both commented about mine (which was like one guy's who had trimmed up a little higher). The guy who had let his grow down the neck a little lower agreed that he was going to take his up next shave.

Not the typical conversation amongst a group of late-50's guys...
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