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NKinney
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   Posted 12/6/2017 8:59 AM (GMT -7)   
Do it, man. Cut the cord. What day is Commitment Day? (the day of your last ciggy when you throw out everything related to smoking in your life...last pack, ashtrays, re-arrange our outdoor smoking area, etc). Get ready to start hacking up the gunk lining your lungs as you expel it. I'm going to ask again in a week.

Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 12/6/2017 9:23 AM (GMT -7)   
OK... I have enough stress as it is... Peer pressure will make it worse smhair

Just kidding.

I have a new unopened pack in my shirt pocket as I write... It's been there for five hours and I haven't touched it... Nor have I needed to chew on a piece of anti smoking gum.

The bad news is that I'm wearing my favorite outdoor jacket and it smells FUNKY.

Then there's the part about how the NicoDerm CQ patches are $52.99 for 14 days... Can get the same thing ONLINE at CVS for $37.09 ... The store manager and I had a fun talk... I already knew it to an extent - but the Online CVS site is considered a competitor... He said in the good old days he could do a price match... I suggested he tell his brass hats that I'll order them from Amazon if I order them from anyone yeah

Skiing Texan
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   Posted 12/6/2017 12:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Steve, may I offer some unsolicited advice? Don’t worry about answering that - I’m going to go ahead and do it anyway.

I myself am in the middle of breaking a seven year (this time) habit using smokeless tobacco (the nicotine equivalent of 4 to 5 cigarettes for every 30 minute dip) and I can tell you that all these patches and gums just prolong the misery. Nicotine only stays in your system for a few days, after which the cravings are just a matter of your brain chemistry readjusting to the change. The first day sucks really bad. The second day sucks bad. The third day sucks a little less - and so on. Quitting the stuff is actually not hard – you just have to do it one day at a time.

Find a group of people who are close to you, and to whom if you make a promise you’ll feel like crap if you break it. Promise them every single day that you will not smoke at all. Keep that promise for one day, then get up the next morning and make the same promise. One day at a time. I am now as of this morning 220 days nicotine free, and I have a group of about five people that I text every single morning to tell them I will not use nicotine that day.

You can do this, man but your subconscious – which knows you better than anyone in the whole world – will do everything in his power to break your will. Good luck to you.
Age 50, biopsy 3/3/15, PSA 4.6
24 cores of which 2 were pos - G7(3+4)
RALRP by Dr. Brian Miles 4/27/15
Lymph nodes clear, no EPE
Cath removal 5/5/15 - stress incontinence (2 pads/day)
Post op/Path report 6/16/15 PSA < .01
Gleason upgrade G8(4+4); PT2c; M0; SVI neg; PNI neg; PSA <0.01
Fully continent 3 weeks - 0 pads
UPDATE: PSA 5/2/17 <.001; Restart TRT

Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 12/6/2017 1:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks... as I mentioned earlier: "I quit cold turkey about 7 years ago... Lasted for 8 months... But I'm more motivated now than before."

I'm just expecting this time to be a little harder... I've only had one smoke today!!!

I know that the number one "key to success" is having your head screwed on straight.

Cajun Jeff
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   Posted 12/7/2017 7:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Steve, Pat and I both quit cold turkey midnight 2000 and never looked back. I know you can do this.

Hang in there my friend.

Cajun Jeff
9/08 PSA 5.4 referred to Urologist
9/08 Biopsy: GS 3+4=7 1 positive core in 12 1% cancer core
10/08 Nerve-Sparing open radicalSurgery Path Report Downgrade 3+3=6 GS Stage pT2c margins clea
r3 month: PSA <0.1
19th month: PSA <0.1
2 year PSA <0.1
Only issue at this time is ED but getting better

Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 12/7/2017 8:33 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Jeff...Tell Pat Howdy for me.

One cig yesterday and none today.... Kitty Kat pissed me off last night and got kicked across the room and died.... Other than that - no problems.

(just kidding about the kitty getting kicked)

Found out the hard way this morning about applying the patch....If you don't press it down real smooth - it ozzzzes out and gets on your shirt. So I think today's dose would be a good.

Post Edited (Steve n Dallas) : 12/7/2017 2:44:16 PM (GMT-7)


CuriousCharles
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   Posted 12/7/2017 2:07 PM (GMT -7)   
I like what Skiing Texan said.

It's really, really , really hard, but keeping that nicotine dripping in to your body/brain just prolongs things for many people. The social support can be a big help.

81GyGuy
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   Posted 12/8/2017 12:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Here's something to think about, as obvious as it is, that may help with the motivation to quit.

Society's attitude toward smoking has changed dramatically in the past half-century. When I was a kid growing up in the 1950s smoking was highly acceptable, common, and was generally something that was not looked down upon.

Advertising for smoking at that time, and even in later years, was very positive, even claiming "healthful benefits" from smoking. (… Three out of four doctors recommend Lucky Strike cigarettes…).

For example:

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8oRfKWJrOY

In the Hollywood films of that era actors would light up all the time and blow smoke across the screen as if there was nothing to it. And audiences were okay with that. (How may time does Humphrey Bogart light up in Casablanca?).

More examples of puffing in typical Hollywood films from that era:

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSyWbAX1S3s

Of course people were aware back then, if they were honest with themselves at all, that smoking really did carry serious health risks, but still the cultural perception at the time was one of acceptance.

Not so now. Today the word is out about smoking, and no one is thinking it's an okay thing to do, like 50-60 years ago.

Use that to your advantage. When you drop this smoking thing, you can congratulate yourself on getting back into what is now the social norm, the thing to do, unlike decades ago. Nowadays quitting is the right thing to do, both for yourself and for your loved ones.

Also, the good people of the world will be pulling for you to quit, since it's the socially positive thing to do now, and you can imagine them all rising in unison and applauding happily, when you put that last cigarette down.
Age: 71
Chronic prostatitis (age 60 on)
BPH w/ urinary obstruction, 6/2011
TURP, 7/2011
Ongoing high PSA, 7/2011-12/2011
Biopsy, 12/2011: positive 3/12 (90%, 70%, 5%)
Gleason 6(3+3), T1c
No mets, PCa likely still organ contained
IMRT w/ HT (Lupron), 4/2012-6/2012
PSAs (since post-IMRT): 0.1 or lower

Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 12/8/2017 1:45 PM (GMT -7)   
As I wrote last friday:

"Up until this week, my order of importance regarding quitting was MONEY, being a third class citizen and health reasons..."

There's nothing more fun than freezing outside at a diner party while all you're friends inside are laughing at the FOOLS outside.

I emailed a chunk of my circle of friends yesterday, many of which I'll see tonight at HH. 1/3 Never smoked, 1/3 still smoke the the last 1/3 are ex-smokers.

Billie that had rectal cancer around the time my PC journey started said she's going to quit too...

So far, three days on the patch has been a piece of cake. Just had tone one cig before I put on the first patch. Will not use or attempt to not use a patch tomorrow.

Thanks again for all of the well wishes.

jetguy
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   Posted 12/8/2017 5:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Steve, I too used a patch when I quit a 38 year X pack per day habit 21 years ago. I'm so happy and relieved that I quit that I haven't the words to express it. One Saturday I was going out the door and told my wife that I was having a nicotine fit. She told me to put a patch on. I told her that I wanted to be done with them. Her response was that a patch every day forever was much better than smoking. She was right. I put one on and had a great day. Never used another.

Best of luck to you,

Bill

Skypilot56
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   Posted 12/9/2017 5:09 AM (GMT -7)   
JULY 15, 1983. I remember it as well as my birthday. That's the day I put the pack of malboro's on top of the refrigerator and said that's it! I had been quitting on and off for over a year 3 packs a day when your operating a heavy piece of equipment for 12 to 18 hrs a day pretty easy to have a cigarette in your mouth all day but sure is not easy when trying to run with your son! I will have to say it's the hardest thing I have ever done. I had nitemare's for more than 10 yrs after even would wake up in sweat that I had caved in and smoked a cigarette! It's a terrible addiction that has cost thousands and thousands of lives and who only knows the dollar amount it has cost our health system!!!!!! I have no idea how a young person can afford them when I guit they had just started to be a dollar in the machines 5.60 in a carton that was another reason for quitting the wife said we could spend that money on the kids she was right! I so strongly wish that America would become like Finland and some other countries and become pre-active and not post active in our health system. But sadly I don't think it will ever happen a small handful of people are getting criminally insanely filthy rich from this fiasco we call a health system and doctors are quitting every day cause they just want to help people but they have to spend hrs doing paperwork? Anyway before I rant and rave any more I just want to say Steve hang in there it's tough to do took me a year of quitting several times before I finally made it. I put a box of toothpicks in my pocket and would reach in and take one and put in my mouth felt like I was getting a cig but worked for me. Best of your luck to you!!!!
Male 61 DX @ 60
Father had PC
2002. Psa. .08 Enlarged Prostrate
2014. Psa. 3.8
2016. Psa. 19
3-08-17 RP Mayo Clinic Mn
Path Report: Gleason 9, pt3b, Seminal vessels and one nerve removed, negative margins, 35 lymph nodes removed no cancer, Prostrate 45 grams
4-20-17 Incarcerated Umbilical Hernia
6-13-17 1st psa check 0.13
7-19-17 psa 0.12 MRI clear
10-11-17 psa 0.16
10-12-17 Lupron started

Dreamerboy
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   Posted 12/9/2017 8:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Cheering you on Steve. It will be a challenge but that's what life is - a series of challenges. You are up to it!
B-year: 1959 PSA
4 years AS; following Ornish/Michael Milken-style diet
RARP March 2015 after biopsy showed tiny amount of G7

Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 12/11/2017 7:32 AM (GMT -7)   
Last cigarette was last Wednesday the 6th. Doing real good on that part.

Might have to re-think waiting three months to see the doc again. Had dinner and drinks with a couple of buddies Friday night... I'd get short of breath talking so much.. Was maybe a 3 or 4 on a scale of 10 as far comfort level goes.

Am hoping the no more smoking will help me get a little better and not have to go on meds and an inhaler.

Pratoman
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   Posted 12/11/2017 7:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Good job Steve.
Dx Age 64 Nov 2014, 4.3
BX 3 of 12 cores positive original pathologyG6, G6, G8 (3+5)
downgraded to 3+3=6 by tDr Epstein, JH
RALP with Dr Ash Tewari Jan 6, 2015
Post surgical pathology – G7 (3+4), ECE, Margins, LN, SV all negative
PSA @ 6 weeks 2/15, .<02, remained <0.02 until January 2017, .02, repeat Feb 2017, still .02. May 2017-.033, August 2017- .033 November .046
Decipher test, low risk, .37 score

Startech
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   Posted 12/11/2017 8:40 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey Steve, Wed the 6th was my last cig also. I have been trying to quit for a few months now. I noticed that I have been wheezing to the point it was embarrassing. Even waking me during sleep. I just happened upon this thread and want to wish us both good luck. There is some real good advice here that I needed to see. So, your thread helped me also.
Oh wow, I was looking for the patches I bought on Amazon to tell you about. OOPS, I bought these last February!!! /smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UMHOJ4O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
$24 for 28 patches 21mgs.
Anyways, I really appreciate this thread because it has been a tough few days. Everyday, I put $8 cash in a can in my pantry. That's about what I was paying per pack per day. Currently I have no idea how long or how much is gonna end up in that can, but you can bet everything that some day, it's gonna be real fun emptying that can!

P S My amazon smile charity is GFMPH

Post Edited (Startech) : 12/11/2017 8:44:03 AM (GMT-7)


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 12/11/2017 9:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Startech that's great news brother.

The patches and or gum are doing wonders for me.... And the medical wake up call really helped.

KEEP IT UP yeah


EDIT: I just joined an online support group for COPD... Looking at other forums SUCKS... Many unanswered threads and most recent one is something months ago.. Have no idea if or when someone will chime in.

Gotta give Healingwell a big ol tip of the hat.

NKinney
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   Posted 12/12/2017 8:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Checking in again; it's been another week.

I assume now you've thrown out or otherwise disposed of all your old smokes. Thrown out ashtrays, lighters, etc. Cleaned-up & re-arranged your outdoor smoking area (every smoker has one). Right?

Your other posts sound every encouraging. Be strong.

Startech, you too.

Startech
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   Posted 12/12/2017 10:36 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks NKinney. Decided not to sleep with a patch on anymore. No big deal cause sometimes I would wake in the morning to find it stuck to my pillow or something. It must be a mental thing, cause I popped in a piece of gum before coffee this morning. I joined Planet Fitness for cheap. Now to force myself to go.
enlarged prostate at age 25-dx'd 51;Age-56
3/2000 psa=.08,4/2002 psa = 1.4,4/2011 psa= 49.2
5/2011 Prostate Biopsy-3 of 12 cores Positive
Gleason 4+4=8
T2c n0m0
MRI-1 nerve bundle involved
open RRP 8/5/11,home 8/6/11,cath out 8/16/11
Post Op Path
71g-1 NERVE spared
Gleason upgraded 5+4=9
EPE & PNI
Margin-indeterminate,
pT3aN0Mx
Zero Club until 7/14-.034,12/15-.108,1/17-.50,ED/1 pad

Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 12/12/2017 12:02 PM (GMT -7)   
NKinney - Quitting smoking is a mind over matter deal... In my mind, it doesn't matter what I have laying around shocked

I have a pack of smokes in my shirt pocket and a lighter in my left front pocket... I feel like I've forgotten something as I'm getting ready to go to work if the pockets are empty... Everyone does the pocket pat as they're leaving the house don't they?

Last night I did wash my two large ashtrays... One was imported all the way from New Orleans and the other from my older brothers frat house in 1978...

EDIT: My new current quest is to see how much of the stench I can get out of my house without having to paint. turn

Post Edited (Steve n Dallas) : 12/12/2017 12:21:53 PM (GMT-7)


Startech
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   Posted 12/13/2017 11:05 AM (GMT -7)   
I still carry my lighter so I can open beers. Consider when you are ready to replace that pack of cigs with a pack of gum?

So I went to the gym for the first time yesterday. I can't move very fast today...
enlarged prostate at age 25-dx'd 51;Age-56
3/2000 psa=.08,4/2002 psa = 1.4,4/2011 psa= 49.2
5/2011 Prostate Biopsy-3 of 12 cores Positive
Gleason 4+4=8
T2c n0m0
MRI-1 nerve bundle involved
open RRP 8/5/11,home 8/6/11,cath out 8/16/11
Post Op Path
71g-1 NERVE spared
Gleason upgraded 5+4=9
EPE & PNI
Margin-indeterminate,
pT3aN0Mx
Zero Club until 7/14-.034,12/15-.108,1/17-.50,ED/1 pad
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