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5 year anniversary,and 1 year since big jump :)

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BillyBob@388
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Posted 1/10/2019 4:04 PM (GMT -7)
Not too shabby! Well, I am a couple of months past 5 years since diagnosis, and a few weeks shy of 5 years since RP, with not the greatest post op path: G9, SV+, and positive margin. Bummer.

But, it is also the one year anniversary since I got a bit of a scare when my PSA TRIPLED between 10/17 and 01/18, from the .02 it had been stable at for almost a year, to .06 just 3 months later. ( turns out there was new machinery)

Well, I just got the e-mail for today's test: "A secure message from your provider's office
This test was normal. Your PSA was 0.06. ".

So still not quite high enough for me to make the jump to RT and/or HT, not quite yet. And that suits me. At first, following Vanderbilt's Joseph Smith's advice- to my great amazement- to just wait for some clear signs of significant advance, I just hoped to get a few months or maybe year or 2 of healing from that dang surgery trauma before possibly doing some more damage down there. But praise the Lord, here I am officially at 5 years and still holding for at least 3 more months! Where is my Cabernet Sauv? ;)

Also of note and general interest for all of us folks who get a scare from a PSA reading: During this last year, except for one brief foray to < .05, I have remained exactly at that .06 that gave me such a startle. Imagine: something supposedly going on inside of me that could cause a triple in just 3 months, but the same thing can not cause one bit of extra increase in an entire year. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Of course I think we all suspect it was more the machines, than the actual numbers. But it does raise another question: which numbers were/are the true numbers? .02? or .06? I do not know. I guess it is possible both are accurate, and I really did jump that much just to settle back down. But, seems unlikely to me.

OK, belly up to the bar, boys, this round is on me!
PSA 10.9 ~112013
Bx on 112013 at age ~65yrs, with 5 of 12 pos, G9(5+4), T2B.
RALP with lymph nodes at Vanderbilt 021914. (nodes clear, SV+, G9 down graded to 4+5, 1 focal margin )
only rare pad use after 1 year
PSA <.01 on 6/14 and all until 9/15 = .01, still .01 9/16, .02 on 3/17,6/17,10/17, .06 1/18, .06 4/18, <.05 7/18, .06 10/18, .06 01/19
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InTheShop
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Posts : 10373
Posted 1/10/2019 4:41 PM (GMT -7)
great PSA!!!

Congratulations!
I'll be in the shop.
Age 58, 52 at DX
PSA:
4.2 10/11, 1.9 6/12, 1.2 12/12, 1.0 5/13, .6 11/13,
.7 5/14, .5 10/14, .5 4/15, .3 10/15, .3 4/16, .4 10/16, .4 5/17, .3 10/17 .3 4/18, .4 11/18
G 3+4
Stage T1C
2 out of 14 cores positive
Treatment IGRT - 2/2012
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mattamx
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Posts : 856
Posted 1/10/2019 5:03 PM (GMT -7)
BillyBob,

This PCa stuff can be a long and winding road. Always wondering what is, or isn’t, around the next bend. I think you deserve a break.

I’ll have a drink with you, but none of that whiskey. 🙂
Part I
2015 (Age 54) PSA: 20.8
Bx: All cores high volume G7 (4+3)
RALP & Adjuvant RT
Pathology: G8 (4+4), focal areas of 5; Positive margins; 3 LNs negative
PSA nadir: 0.1
Steady PSA increase. June 2018: 22.3

Part II
2019
Starting Lupron/Zytiga soon.
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Pratoman
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Posted 1/10/2019 5:10 PM (GMT -7)
That’s a big anniversary coming up. And you’ve done a fine job beating it with your pathology. May it continue at .06 or less, for the rest of your life
I am not a doctor, just another guy without a prostate
Dx Age 64 Nov 2014, PSA 4.3
BX 3 of 12 cores positive original pathology G6
RALP with Dr Ash Tewari Jan 6, 2015
Post surgical pathology G7 (3+4), - ECE, - Margins, -LN, -SV (+ frozen section apex converted to negative)
PSA @ 6 weeks 2/15, .<02, remained <0.02 until January 2017, .02, repeat Feb 2017, still .02. May 2017-.033, August 2017- .033 November .046, March 2018 .060. June 2018 .068, July 2018 - .082, August 2018, .078, August 2018 - .08 Start ADT. Sept 2018 Start SRT
Sept 2018 thru November 2018 – T = 4, PSA = <.05
Decipher test, low risk, .37 score
My story.... tinyurl.com/qgyu3xq
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fiddlecanoe
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Posts : 472
Posted 1/10/2019 5:16 PM (GMT -7)
That's great news. A friend of mine who was treated for breast cancer says: "You're only as good as your last scan." So it is with PCa, but substitute "PSA" for "scan." Five years is a good long run, but I just wish that at some point you were truly in the clear.
Age: 63
Diagnosed in July 2016 with G7 (4+3) & PNI
Bone & CT scans clear
Surgery at Lenox Hill Hospital in NYC, 9/12/2016
Post-surgery pathology: G7 (3+4), with +SVI, +PSM, +EPE, and -LNI
Post-surgery PSA, 10/16: <.008; 12/16: 0.01; 6/17: 0.05
IMRT begun: July 18, 2017 (35 fractions)
Post-SRT PSA, 11/17: <.008; 1/18: <.008; 07/18: <.008; 11/18: <.01
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Bobbiesan
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Posted 1/10/2019 5:47 PM (GMT -7)

BillyBob@388 said...
Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Yes, it certainly does. We may never know the whys of this disease.

But, in your case, the way I would look at it is, there's no reason why it couldn't just stay indolent at that level and never clinically bother you the rest of your life, i.e., if it was going to go south, it would have done so by now. I mean, to be at five years and still holding at a psa that most RO's wouldn't even treat yet is really outstanding.

So, great news, worthy of a Chateau Lafite Rothschild 1907, and, when I get an extra $5000, I'll buy it for you to celebrate, ha.

Robert
69 now
Jan '08-'11 PSAs 2.2 2.5 2.7 2.6, DREs-
Jan '12: PSA 3.6, DRE+
Jan '12: MRI inconclusive
Feb '12: PCaDx pT2a, 4/12+ (3 @ 3+3, 1 @ 4+3); 3% tot cores; bone scan-
Apr '12: RALP; 3+4=7; pT2c pN0 pMx; 30%; 3mm r lat margin of 3+3=6 so pT2+; EPE-; PNI+; 8 LN-; SV-
TRT 03/'14-now; uPSAs: <.015 til 02/17; mostly .020-.030; then .048 on 12/1/18
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Gear
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Posted 1/10/2019 6:21 PM (GMT -7)
Great report after that bounce, pass one down!
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BillyBob@388
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Posted 1/10/2019 7:09 PM (GMT -7)
Thanks, every one! I am about to have my 2nd celebratory glass of Cab Sauv. You know, many say alcohol is a carcinogen. But honestly, for the last few years, most nights I have a glass or two of red wine at supper, for better or worse.

Since I got up to .02 a couple of years ago, my guy moved me back from 6 month to 3 month checks. I am wondering if I'd be better off with less frequent checks.
PSA 10.9 ~112013
Bx on 112013 at age ~65yrs, with 5 of 12 pos, G9(5+4), T2B.
RALP with lymph nodes at Vanderbilt 021914. (nodes clear, SV+, G9 down graded to 4+5, 1 focal margin )
only rare pad use after 1 year
PSA <.01 on 6/14 and all until 9/15 = .01, still .01 9/16, .02 on 3/17,6/17,10/17, .06 1/18, .06 4/18, <.05 7/18, .06 10/18, .06 01/19
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island time
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Posted 1/10/2019 8:31 PM (GMT -7)
I’ve wondered the same thing on both counts Bill.

1). Are these numbers accurate? Can a .02 really be a .06....and vice a versa? How much credence can a man put into these “numbers”? And....

2). Maybe I’d be better off with less testing. (The thought has crossed my mind to stop it altogether). A large part of me remains skeptical/unconvinced that testing from here on out has any bearing on the life I live....or....for that matter...the length of it. Could be, I’d be just as well, if not better, off not running to the doc every 12 weeks, forever checking on my “cancer” status.

I’ve been watching lately for your results. Bingo! Good. Good. Good.

Mines tomorrow. This is rediculous. Good on ya Billy..
PSA 2010 thru 2014...4.0 +/- .7
Dx 12/14 @ 56 yo...2 cores G6 <5%, 1 core G6 20%, 1 core HGPIN.
RALP 11/25/15...3+4. 3 to 5 mm surgical margin 15% involvement pT2+
G6 at margin. 5% grade 4 cells. PSA's....2/16-.01...4/16-.00...7/16-.00...10/16-.01...1/17-.01...4/17-.02...7/17-.02
10/17-.02...01/18-.05...03/18-.014...04/18-.02...07/18-.047...10/18-.028
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BillyBob@388
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Posted 1/10/2019 9:08 PM (GMT -7)

island time said...
I’ve wondered the same thing on both counts Bill.

1). Are these numbers accurate? Can a .02 really be a .06....and vice a versa? How much credence can a man put into these “numbers”? And....

2). Maybe I’d be better off with less testing. (The thought has crossed my mind to stop it altogether). A large part of me remains skeptical/unconvinced that testing from here on out has any bearing on the life I live....or....for that matter...the length of it. Could be, I’d be just as well, if not better, off not running to the doc every 12 weeks, forever checking on my “cancer” status.

I’ve been watching lately for your results. Bingo! Good. Good. Good.

Mines tomorrow. This is rediculous. Good on ya Billy..

Thanks IT! Looks like you are on a 3 month schedule like me, same months. Good luck tomorrow. It is rediculous!
PSA 10.9 ~112013
Bx on 112013 at age ~65yrs, with 5 of 12 pos, G9(5+4), T2B.
RALP with lymph nodes at Vanderbilt 021914. (nodes clear, SV+, G9 down graded to 4+5, 1 focal margin )
only rare pad use after 1 year
PSA <.01 on 6/14 and all until 9/15 = .01, still .01 9/16, .02 on 3/17,6/17,10/17, .06 1/18, .06 4/18, <.05 7/18, .06 10/18, .06 01/19
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mspt98
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Posts : 410
Posted 1/10/2019 9:41 PM (GMT -7)
You dodged a bullet for sure, I’ll have another glass of Chardonnay to celebrate for you...
My age= 52 at time of diagnosis
DRE=negative,
PSA went from 1.9 to 2.85 in one year, biopsy ordered,
2 cores positive, one 5%,one 25% G=6
Bilateral nerve sparing robotic surgery on 09/11/08, pathological stage T2A,
No signs of spread, organ confined,
all PSA'S 0 since surgery, diagnosed with low T, doing TRT now, still using trimix for ED
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ddyss
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Posts : 420
Posted 1/11/2019 7:56 AM (GMT -7)
Congratulations Billybob!!!
You are obviously doing something good and soon you will be writing a book about it. You have rightfully earned that zero!!!
Keep it going and I will be toasting for you today !
49 DX@48 PSA 03/17 4.45 DRE: Firm Right Base, 3 wk cypro, PSA 04/17: 3.2
04/18 Biopsy Right: Base 4+3, Middle 3+4, Apex: HPIN
Left 6 cores : -ve
5/20 MRI: Pirads 5, ECE:+ve
RALP 05/26 - Dr. Bhandari
Path: downgraded to 3+4 Stage T2C
Prostrate: 49g Tumor:20%
LN/SV/ECE: -ve PNI: +ve
Cath Removed : 6/1
Full continence: 7/4
PSA:
7/17,10/17, 1/18, 05/26, 8/26<0.006
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