My next 3 month PSA will be coming up next week (It'll be one yr since my surgery- so far at .04 )-
Just curious--Don't know if it's a superstition .. a "wishful thinking" quirk...or....something that really might work...but...have any of you guys here..in the days/weeks...preceding the ultra PSA blood test resort to eating a diet that you ..'feel'...might help the ultra PSA...be lower??
I know there is no scientific evidence behind it- but- we all know how stressful thus time can be...& might try anything--(I recall one guy who drank lots of water--- hoping that might help-)-
So-if it's lots of vegetables- garlic...vitamins...or...water --Any guys here ever try anything- in the days or weeks--leading up to that dreaded blood draw--?
I really would like to know- feel free to write it- no matter how strange it may seem...Who knows..maybe there is something that really DOES 'work'...--
Waiting to hear-
I noticed the subject somewhat veered off into whether it is smart to try to trick the PSA test, which would really just amount to tricking yourself. And that is true in a way. But I don't think you are really interested in tricking your PSA. I suspect you are more interested in lowering that PSA by way of killing off some of those PC cells by way of DIY chemo and/or DIY immune therapy. And you can indeed do such, though some here are loath to admit it and might even ridicule the concept.
I am always amazed at the cynicism over a well known, daily process. People get various cancers throughout their life time. Heck, sometimes we might be coming down with undiagnosed, microscopic cancers daily. Our healthy immune systems murder those little bastids. This is routine. Sometimes, for whatever reasons, the immune system fails to get the job done, although there is a lot of modern research- and a bit of spectacular success(Jimmy Carter) in how to boost the immune system back up to do the job it failed to do. All of us have probably seen the commercial on TV showing the immune system killing a cancer cell. But even if it does not always work, or our immune system gets weakened for some reason, the norm is: our immune system kills cancer cells as well as viruses and bacteria. It is supposed to kill them before they become troublesome. That is the norm.https://www.webmd.com/cancer/multiple-myeloma/news/20010430/giving-immune-system-second-chance-to-kill-cancers#1
A bold new treatment for an incurable cancer will give the immune system a second chance to fight the disease.
The immune system is supposed to get rid of cancer cells before they grow into large tumors..............
So why wouldn't every one be interested or at least hopeful about
any possible ways to boost the immune system? Why wouldn't every one who has knocked their cancer cell count way down with whatever treatment be interested in finding some more natural way to help the fight along, and maybe even boost their immune system's ability to fight off these little buggers?
Of course, the trouble is the lack of studies to confirm exactly how to do this(unless maybe for a 100K drug). A certain diet? Foods to eat or avoid? Certain vitamins or nutrients? Cannabis? The studies will just naturally be concentrated in how to patent a 100K/year drug to boost the immune system, leaving us mostly on our own to figure out if there is anything we can do via diet or supplements to help this system out. And quite often, we will not get any encouragement from the medical authorities on how to find out. https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/how-to-boost-your-immune-system
Diet and your immune system
Like any fighting force, the immune system army marches on its stomach. Healthy immune system warriors need good, regular nourishment. Scientists have long recognized that people who live in poverty and are malnourished are more vulnerable to infectious diseases. Whether the increased rate of disease is caused ......by malnutrition's effect on the immune system, however, is not certain. There are still relatively few studies of the effects of nutrition on the immune system of humans, and even fewer studies that tie the effects of nutrition directly to the development (versus the treatment) of diseases.
Notice: not studies proving something one way or another, but a lack of studies.
For myself, if there seems to be some evidence(even anecdotal) that some substance or diet is helpful, and virtually no evidence that it is harmful in any significant way(wish I could say that about
a lot of our treatments), and doesn't cost much, I lean towards looking into it. Or, when it comes to the dietary approach, as I always say, got to eat something. Might as well eat something that is rumored to be helpful, if I don't hate it. Or, perhaps on occasion, not eating anything, as in intermittent fasting, or eating less of something like sugar. But the trick is: what is actually helpful, what is actually harmful? There is maybe plenty of anecdotal evidence or just theory, but the RCTs are lacking. And probably will remain so.
PSA 10.9 ~112013
Bx on 112013 at age ~65yrs, with 5 of 12 pos, G9(5+4), T2B.
RALP with lymph nodes at Vanderbilt 021914. (nodes clear, SV+, G9 down graded to 4+5, 1 focal margin )
only rare pad use after 1 year
PSA <.01 on 6/14 and all until 9/15 = .01, still .01 9/16, .02 on 3/17,6/17,10/17, .06 1/18, .06 4/18, <.05 7/18, .06 10/18, .06 01/19