From CDC: COVID vaccine priority recommendations: who gets it first

F8 said...


btw, i normally get sick at least six times a year but this year not a single time. the reason is pretty obvious to me: masks and social distancing work

Same here.

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580 deaths in california today. we'll probably be above 5k deaths a day nationally when the xmas surge kicks in.

I have an appointment at the local hospital on Saturday morning. Some of my friends were there yesterday and the day before and said that everything was very organized and went smoothly. Mild side effects the day after.
Saturday can’t come soon enough.

Wow, you two might be the first guys here to get it! That's wonderful!

Reassuring to hear some of our compadres here are already receiving the vaccine ...

Here, they are still trying to get all healthcare workers vaccinated, along with care center residents.

My school superintendent is still waiting to hear when we, as school employees, will qualify for the vaccine.

Step by step ...

Hope they can ramp up vaccine production and the supply chain ...
C-Y-C-L-O-N-E ~~~ # Iowa State University

I'm envious of you guys that have been vaccinated already! At age 60 and not anywhere near to an essential or front line worker, I'm pretty much at the back of the line. Not complaining since I think that's fair. But based on the speed that vaccinations are rolling out, I think my target month of April is very unlikely and I could be as late as June.

TJ: I fully appreciate your concern, but keep in mind that part of the reason that the testing was completed so quickly was that there was so much covid circulating in the US that the clinical trials reached their target numbers of infected participants pretty quickly. That wasn't the case with previous vaccines. Could some SEs only show up after several years? It could certainly be the case, but it also wouldn't be typical of other vaccines--at least that I'm aware of. But everyone needs to measure their own personal trade-offs.

Michael - this is the very first mRNA vaccine approved. The mechanism of action is quite different from other vaccines. They tried to gain approvals in the past for other medical conditions but failed due to significant and very unsafe side effects. I'm just not comfortable having it injected into my body at this time. They bypassed much of the animal testing that normally occurs with all prospective drugs. So I will wait. Maybe if I was 80 years old with multiple comorbidities I would decide differently. But I evaluate benefit and risk. In my case the risk outweighs the benefit. It's as simple as that.

TJ123 said...
Michael - this is the very first mRNA vaccine approved. The mechanism of action is quite different from other vaccines. They tried to gain approvals in the past for other medical conditions but failed due to significant and very unsafe side effects. I'm just not comfortable having it injected into my body at this time. They bypassed much of the animal testing that normally occurs with all prospective drugs. So I will wait. Maybe if I was 80 years old with multiple comorbidities I would decide differently. But I evaluate benefit and risk. In my case the risk outweighs the benefit. It's as simple as that.

maybe factor in the risks to others, not just yourself

The vaccines do not prevent infection. They make our body better able to handle the infection and prevent developing severe symptoms for up to 95% of people after the second shot. Thus less hospitalization and fewer deaths. The trials did not study whether they lesson the ability of an infected person to spread the disease.

According to several reports I have seen from Dr. Fauci that after getting the vaccine we still have to wear masks, social distance, stay out of restaurants, etc. theoretically once 80-90% of the population have either had the disease or the vaccine then the threat of spread greatly lessens. Of course it has not been determined how long people have immunity after having the disease or how long the vaccine will work.

It also takes a few weeks after the shot for the vaccine to be effective. You can still get infected and get sick after getting the shot before the vaccine has become effective. Hopefully the incidence will be low, but only time will tell. So get your shot, wear your mask, stay at home and keep away from everyone else.

People who don't understand science are really messing with the scientific facts about the Covid virus and vaccination. We're in a new Dark Ages. Thankfully, we have solidly reliable scientists like Dr Dr Fauci who tell us the truth. Period.

JNF said...
The vaccines do not prevent infection. They make our body better able to handle the infection and prevent developing severe symptoms for up to 95% of people after the second shot. Thus less hospitalization and fewer deaths. The trials did not study whether they lesson the ability of an infected person to spread the disease.

This is something that, to my understanding is not yet clear, and they are gathering data to determine whether you can be an asymptomatic carrier after being vaccinated.
Also from what i've read, specific to Pfizer, but i would think it would not be much different for the Moderna, same platform, same technology, after the first shot, it takes a few weeks to develop immunity, and the first shot will get you about 52% immunity. Its a week after the second shot, that most will gain 95% immunity

mattam said...
"""According to a December survey undertaken by the Pew Research Center, nearly 40% of Americans say they will definitely not or probably not get the COVID-19 vaccine when it becomes available to them. Gallup polls put the number at 37%."""

Unless those numbers change, and I think they could change as time goes on, it could be slower going for getting back to near-normal.

I've seen these dismal statistics, too. For some, it's not a matter of the safety and efficacy of the vaccine, it's a question of whether the virus exists!

Pratoman said...
The way i see it, we all have two choices. 1. Take on the POTENTIAL BUT UNKNOWN risk involved in getting vaccinated. OR 2. Take on the risk of getting Covid-19. Pick your poison. For me it was an easy choice to make, way easier than whether i should have surgery or radiation

I am thinking, within a month to six weeks, we will start to see a marked decline in daily new cases, due to 1. end of the "holiday surge" (i think we are almost there) and 2.the effect of a ramp up in vaccinations.

Just my guess

QFT. we take the leap of faith to to have our prostates carved out knowing that serious side effects could occur and/or then subject the apex of our manhood to radiation treatment and we are worried about a vaccination that could save us from a much quicker death than prostate cancer? it really is quite laughable when you think about is.

“The vaccine provides immunity to Covid 19” is how it is described by the medical community. They did not say it provides a force field that repels the virus or one has “diplomatic immunity”. The word immunity in this case means your immune system successfully fights and resists the disease.

The extent to which one can be a carrier after vaccination is on the list of more things to be studied from what I can tell now that the control group is millions of people.