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JNF
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Posted 9/6/2021 2:11 PM (GMT -8)
Thanks for all the well wishes. They are much appreciated and needed. After some improvement, I crashed Thursday night with the worst uncontrollable cough I have ever experienced. Nothing helped. Of course no sleep and very sore muscles from the spasms. On Friday my doc got me some meds and they helped. I finally went to sleep early on Saturday morning and slept through to Sunday evening. A decent night last night and some napping today. Was able to spend some time outdoors today and am feeling better. I have a visit with the doc tomorrow.
I understand the severe cough is common. In our local newspaper on Saturday, a local doctor that I know explained his recent vaccinated infection with great similarity. However, he landed in the hospital for a couple of days as his blood oxygen dropped terribly. The list of drugs they had him on was mind boggling. Also similar is that his wife nor my wife never fell ill. I just sent him a note and will be anxious to speak with him. I also see where vaccinated boxer Oscar de la Hoya also landed in the hospital. So having my butt kicked in the same way as him means it just wasn’t me.
I have browsed your comments with great interest this afternoon and appreciate the positive comments and decorum in the discussion. I remember a couple of items I wanted to answer. First, I had the J&J vaccine in April as did my wife. My doctor friend had the Moderna and his wife had Pfizer. My doc says it doesn’t matter which is used, they all are comparable in efficacy.
Jim made a comment about
the statement the CDC virologist used as sounding fatalistic. Actually not, he was being scientifically realistic. In his presentation he explained that respiratory virus (corona, rhino and flu) have infected humans for more than a hundred thousand years and are always mutating. For the most part they have become much less severe and there are some relative effective flu vaccines. He says that COVID will move from pandemic to a manageable endemic as the others have done, but he sees no possibility of eradication. He expects that better therapeutics will be developed particularly the monoclonal antibodies. He went on to explain the difference with some viruses that we have managed like polio, measles, etc.. He explained that they are all more stable viruses with few mutations. He mentioned there are only three forms of polio virus. Thus vaccinations can be more effective, though he reminded that after nearly 70 years polio is still active in three countries with about
1,000 cases in 2020. So it still poses a problem. He was actually upbeat and explained that the disease will be controlled through natural immunity and vaccination, but that it probably will not go away. Again he stressed the vaccines will manage severe disease, but not infection or transmission, but with time, should lessen the virus effect.
So, thanks again for being a supportive community of friends. I am sure I am on the mend and will continue to feel better.
compiler
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Posted 9/6/2021 2:17 PM (GMT -8)
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Welcome back.
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Tim G
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Posted 9/6/2021 2:32 PM (GMT -8)
Thanks for the update. Take care and heal well.
mattam
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Posted 9/6/2021 2:34 PM (GMT -8)
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F8
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Posted 9/6/2021 3:14 PM (GMT -8)
glad you're on the mend dude!
but this isn't quite true....
"My doc says it doesn’t matter which is used, they all are comparable in efficacy."
here's how they rate:
1) moderna
2) pfizer
3) J&J
1 and 2 are comparable at first but after a few months moderna has the edge, and J&J lags behind
bottom line is older folks especially are due for boosters!
Pratoman
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Posted 9/6/2021 3:16 PM (GMT -8)
Wow Jack, surprisingly tough case for someone fully vaccinated. It emphasizes the point that when the CDC refers to the vaccine as preventing "severe" disease, they mean disease that doesnt require hospitalization , (although apparently there are exceptions even to that, like your Dr friend) but it doesnt mean that you wont feel like you got run over by a train.
In any case, it seems you've turned the corner, and for that i am thankful.
Tudpock18
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Posted 9/7/2021 3:28 AM (GMT -8)
Jack, I’ll save the philosophical virus debates for later. Rather I’ll simply say that I’m glad you are feeling better and wishing you a continued recovery.
Jim
BillyBob@388
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Posted 9/7/2021 5:03 AM (GMT -8)
Jack, I'm glad you are feeling better than you were a couple of days ago, and I'm hoping for your rapid recovery!
randyd
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Posted 9/7/2021 5:46 AM (GMT -8)
Jack,
Sounds like a tough few days. Glad you are doing better. Thanks for the update
Randy
Michael_T
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Posted 9/7/2021 7:15 AM (GMT -8)
Glad to get this update, but sorry to hear how rough it's been for you. I've heard the "kicked my butt" comment in regard to there breakthrough infections, so "mild" may not exactly mean what most of us think it means. I wonder if the definition of mild actually means "didn't have to go to the hospital."
We'll try not to hose up your thread for you this time.
Cyclone-ISU
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Posted 9/10/2021 5:54 PM (GMT -8)
Here's to being well on your way down the ROAD TO RECOVERY!
Hydrate, rest, nap, comfort foods --- REPEAT!
Here's to turning the corner on RECOVERY ROAD!
Get well wishes --- sent your way!
CYCLONE --- # Iowa State University
JNF
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Posted 9/11/2021 5:48 AM (GMT -8)
Thanks Cyclone. I’m 95% but with a lingering cough and little energy.
Best wishes on your game today. The Hawkeyes kicked our butts last week.
mattam
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Posted 9/11/2021 6:09 AM (GMT -8)
JNF said...
Thanks Cyclone.
Best wishes on your game today. The Hawkeyes kicked our butts last week.
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