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ASAdvocate
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Posted 5/11/2022 10:25 AM (GMT -8)
The American Urological Association and the American Society for Radiation Oncology (AUA/ASTRO) just issued new guidelines for the treatment of localized prostate cancer.

There are major changes for active surveillance, being the preferred treatment for all low risk cases. Also, AS can now be considered for select favorable intermediate risk men.

There are cautions about the lack of high quality data for focal ablation, and a statement that proton has not been shown to be superior to other radiation choices in outcomes and toxicities. Lots of good information here that patients, especially those deciding treatment, should be aware of.

These new guidelines are the result of studies and discussions of new findings since the last publication five years ago.

https://www.auanet.org/guidelines/guidelines/clinically-localized-prostate-cancer-aua/astro-guideline-2022?fbclid=IwAR0puAJC0ROsyY_04pbG0B8CAw jXKdGDbn7pbIRCuD6HYV2ruF4ywGEVXJc
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Tudpock18
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Posted 5/11/2022 10:48 AM (GMT -8)
Haven't read it yet but made link clickable. https://www.auanet.org/guidelines/guidelines/clinically-localized-prostate-cancer-aua/astro-guideline-2022?fbclid=iwar0puajc0rosyy_04pbg0b8caw%20jxkdgdbn7pbircud6hyv2ruf4ywgevxjc

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DjinTonic
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Posted 5/11/2022 11:50 AM (GMT -8)
What is the exact definition of "low risk" they are using for AS especially with regard to biopsies?

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ASAdvocate
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Posted 5/11/2022 12:41 PM (GMT -8)
The risk categories are defined in Table 3.

They decided to combine very low risk and low risk because the recommended treatment would be the same. Very low risk is a category that Drs. Epstein and Carter carved out to select patients for Johns Hopkins AS program. JH has now expended eligibility, and even accepts some favorable intermediate risk men.
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Posted 5/11/2022 3:41 PM (GMT -8)
I'm not sure how to interpret these two statements together:

"Risk Assessment

2. Clinicians may selectively use tissue-based genomic biomarkers when added risk stratification may alter clinical decision-making. (Expert Opinion)

3. Clinicians should not routinely use tissue-based genomic biomarkers for risk stratification or clinical decision-making. (Moderate Recommendation; Evidence Level: Grade B)"

So should a G6 biopsy result with lesions limited to less than half the prostate and an acceptable PSA have genomic testing or not before embarking on AS?

Djin

Post Edited (DjinTonic) : 5/11/2022 5:47:48 PM (GMT-6)

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Posted 5/11/2022 4:08 PM (GMT -8)
A Gleason 6 with a high PSA is not low risk. Actually, PSA Density is more definitive than total PSA. But, if those are not low risk, then point 2. would indicate that the clinician could selectively order a genomics test.
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Posted 5/11/2022 5:37 PM (GMT -8)

ASAdvocate said...
A Gleason 6 with a high PSA is not low risk. Actually, PSA Density is more definitive than total PSA. But, if those are not low risk, then point 2. would indicate that the clinician could selectively order a genomics test.

I'm talking about low PSA, not high. Since published Decipher data indicates that 1 in 10 G6 men test high-risk for progressing to higher-grade lesions and metastases within 5 years, I, for one, would want to know where I stand when making a decision about AS (even more so if told I'm an AS eligible G7). Some high-Decipher G6 men might feel comfortablel that AS monitoring will alert them about progression in time to be safely treated; some may choose to forego AS for treatment instead. I think we'll see adoption of genomic testing for AS eligibility for low-risk G7; I'm not sure about G6.

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Posted 5/11/2022 6:12 PM (GMT -8)
A favorable Decipher test is required for favorable intermediate risk men to enroll in Johns Hopkins AS program. But. they seem pretty certain that the existing tests are sufficient for the low risk men, as they only had a prostate cancer mortality rate of one-tenth of one percent at twenty years.
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Jack64
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Posted 5/11/2022 6:15 PM (GMT -8)
Could someone decode number 41 in the link. Did they come to the conclusion that it doesn’t matter when you start ADT, as long as you do start it. It looks like with a normal prostate size and contained PC at high risk, you can start ADT at any time with the same outcome. If that is the case, why start before RA? Thanks a bunch.
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Posted 5/12/2022 3:53 AM (GMT -8)
@Jack64, I think the key is the last few sentences in the detailed description of item 41. In short, the science to date is ambiguous. Their recommendation is tepid (Conditional Recommendation; Evidence Level: Grade C). I’d expect it to change for the next one.

“ Thus, while this study suggested that adjuvant ADT is associated with improved disease control relative to neoadjuvant ADT in patients receiving (prostate only) radiation, the findings should not be considered definitive. Further, a separate, retrospective cohort study found no difference between neoadjuvant ADT and adjuvant ADT in biochemical recurrence-free survival or distant metastasis-free survival.293 Importantly, by initiating ADT concurrently or adjuvantly, radiation therapy can begin without delay and may thereby be more convenient for patients as compared to neoadjuvant ADT.”
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Jack64
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Posted 5/12/2022 7:25 AM (GMT -8)
Thanks central, it looks like current practice will continue until a more studies are done. I would think that regardless of the outcome of new studies, that it certainly doesn’t hurt to get started before RA if you have to wait to get the treatment.
On the same subject, but some after treatment questions? Why do those with high risk only get six months ADT after surgery? Those of us who have elected RA need 18 months of ADT or longer. If there is any suspicion after the prostate is removed that PC still exists, why the shorter duration of ADT? The choice between surgery or RA continues. For high risk, it would seem that if RA is going to be needed after surgery anyway for high risk, why not go with RA to begin with? It would seem that a lot of SEs could be avoided by choosing RA and ADT over surgery. Again thanks a bunch for the clarification on the link. My best to all.
Jack
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Tony Crispino
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Posted 5/12/2022 8:34 AM (GMT -8)
While I am under information embargo right now until after AUA 2022 this weekend, I can say that we wrote the most patient centric guideline to date. We combined low and very low risk to get ambiguity out and as stated above they should be treated in the same manner. I agreed to G6 (ISUP Grade 1) being split when higher PSA was present (10-<20) because it's unusual for true G6/Grade 1 PSA to start climbing above 10. Otherwise if there was no ISUP Grade 2+ present it is low risk. We seriously discussed dissatisfaction with this ambiguity. But we lack the ability to place these patients more accurately in the risk assessment even with molecular testing.

When we did the panel that released the 2017 AUA/AS/SUO version, there was no real presence of molecular tests yet. I was also on panel for the 2019 ASCO molecular guideline for localized prostate cancer and we stated to not use these tests routinely because there use wasn't needed in risk assessment for most cases. This guideline backs this. If you are a G6 with 19 PSA you are not low risk and the chance that a higher grade was present but undetected was very high and the use of a molecular test here was reasonable. We did not recommend molecular tests for intermediate and above Dx's in this guideline. We also decided in 2019 that the only determinable reason for molecular testing was to influence decisions. But in retrospect, I can say that allowed for misuse of these tests.

Imaging tests before biopsy, or during AS, has controversy to it. There is a coming guideline for these uses being prepared for release. Use of PSMA in these areas is not considered reasonable since the best use of PET, regardless of contrasting agent, is for suspected mets.

Lastly, an interesting note. We all agree to the definition of low risk. Even Scott Eggener. This is in contrast to his document to not call G6/Grade 1 cancer release in JCO three weeks ago where he writes it shouldn't be called cancer..
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Tony Crispino
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Posted 5/12/2022 8:55 AM (GMT -8)
Here's a better link.
https://www.auanet.org/guidelines/guidelines/clinically-localized-prostate-cancer-aua/astro-guideline-2022

I recommend the Unabridged version though. That's a link here.
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centralPAdude
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Posted 5/13/2022 11:45 AM (GMT -8)
This made me laugh…some radiology sniping

https://twitter.com/drthomaskole/status/1525185046105231361?s=21&t=jrthzjh-hzmhewhytreuya
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DjinTonic
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Posted 5/14/2022 7:08 AM (GMT -8)
The new Guidelines discuss the ART vs SRT issue for those men who choose surgery and have positive local node(s); however, I don't see the ART vs SRT discussion for high- and very high-risk men with other adverse pathology (e.g., SM, SVI) revealed by surgery. The three recent studies that will probably sway the pendulum from ART to early SRT for most men suffered the usual problem of having relatively small numbers of Gleason 9-10 men, since very-high Gleason scores are much less common. The studies I've seen conclude that too few G9-10 men with adverse post-op pathology get advised adjuvant therapy.

A meta-analysis on the use of radiotherapy after prostatectomy: adjuvant versus early salvage radiation (Review, Full Text, June 2022)

"Abstract
To determine which method of radiotherapy proves more effective after prostatectomy: Adjuvant (ART) or early salvage (ESRT), we observed the pathologic and adverse risk factors of patients and their results from both treatments, looking specifically at biochemical-free survival rates, metastasis-free survival rates, and overall survival rates. Peer review articles containing their own data collected between 1986 and 2022 were reviewed. We reviewed 67 peer review articles and included 33 that met criteria. Studies focused on the adverse risk factors and the results of patients either before/after receiving adjuvant or early salvage/salvage radiotherapy were included in the analysis. Patient characteristics had an effect on what treatment a patient would receive; if a patient had more than one adverse risk factor such as a high Gleason score, prostate-specific antigen (PSA) level, T-stage, or positive margins, they would receive immediate radiation after prostatectomy, which would classify as ART. If the patient had no adverse risk factors after surgery, they would be placed in an observation period to follow their PSA and overall health, and only if necessary, undergo ESRT. Of the 33 studies, ART was proven to be only slightly more beneficial when relating to biochemical recurrence-free survival while ART and ESRT results were similar in metastasis-free survival and overall survival. ART and ESRT are overall comparable in their patient outcomes, despite their own unique pros and cons. The use of ESRT reduces overtreatment in men who may not experience biochemical recurrence. However, in those with very high-risk pathologic features, a multi-disciplinary approach should be utilized to best determine which mode of radiation therapy after surgery is recommended."

Post Edited (DjinTonic) : 5/14/2022 9:20:47 AM (GMT-6)

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