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theswan
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Posted 3/17/2023 2:40 PM (GMT -8)
Oh size of catheter? I don't know and I forget to ask about the pediatric cysto.
But yes he was going to visualize and like I said, biopsy etc.

G
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Posted 3/17/2023 3:50 PM (GMT -8)

Theswan said...
Doctor did several procedures so for all I know, he's still working.

Talk about a cliff hanger!
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theswan
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Posted 3/17/2023 4:39 PM (GMT -8)
I know it stinks but with the patient portal this is how it works. They sit by a screen and punch in what they did.
Some is boilerplate same same stuff other info is more patient specific.
I feel like crap and hate this catheter. Feel urgency at times but it's all going into a bag.
Now I have to wonder if I'm going to be able to urinate once I pull out the catheter.
Hate this worry.
Hopefully I can sleep tonight.

Glen
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theswan
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Posted 3/17/2023 7:06 PM (GMT -8)
I'm sorry for being negative but it's been a long day. Got up at 4am for my 5:30am appointment and I'm super tired and am in pain not only urinary tract pain but laying down on the operation room table really did a number on my back and my sciatic nerve is on fire.
I'm leaking urine around the catheter and guess this is normal.
My main concern is when I remove the catheter am I going to be able to urinate?
Scares me but the doctor said it might be the opposite and I'd be incontinent.
Not sure if I can deal with that but better than retention.
So yeah I'm concerned and worried. Maybe tomorrow with some healing I'll feel better. I'm kinda miserable right now.
If I were still drinking I'd consider a couple of shots to ease the distress. Happily I've given up on booze since 1987 it would only make it worse.
Thanks for letting me cry a little. I'm usually rather upbeat

Glen
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Posted 3/17/2023 10:49 PM (GMT -8)
Glen, we all feel your pain. Let’s hope your doc knows what he is doing and soon this will all pass. If it doesn’t, keep up the fight. Your worrying is to be expected considering what you have been through. Forget the booze and congrats on your sobriety. Take some deep breaths and start meditating on positive thoughts. I know it is hard not to constantly think about what is happening and what may come, but try to relax and think calming thoughts. When things are going bad for me, I put my mind at ease by thinking about the good things that happened to me or good things I did for others. As I said in a previous post, distraction is your best friend and will help you through this. I can’t wait for the day you report that all is well. Until that happens, know we are all giving you our positive thoughts and hope for the best outcome. As always Glen, you are always in my thoughts and prayers.
Jack

Post Edited (Jack64) : 3/17/2023 11:46:48 PM (GMT-8)

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theswan
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Posted 3/18/2023 1:19 AM (GMT -8)
Thanks Jack.
My back pain is doing better and I got five hours of sleep so my mind is less stressed.
Just hoping the doctor puts his notes in today so I know what he's done.
I'd message him and call him but nothing gets done on weekends.
Going to empty the bag and try to sleep some more.

Glen
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theswan
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Posted 3/18/2023 8:38 AM (GMT -8)
Feeling better but I'm having issues with leakage.
I'll get a strong urge to urinate and if I push, urine will spill out the sides of the tube.
Anyone know if this is usual?
I've looked it up but it's conflicted. Some say call doctor or go to the ER others say it's normal.
I suppose it's a spasm?
No blood visible which is good.
Glen
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theswan
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Posted 3/18/2023 11:57 AM (GMT -8)
Great news!
I came home from the gym and was struck with extreme urgency. I tried to hold it but it came out and down my pants on to the floor. I called the answering service and my doctor's assistant told me that as long as the catheter bag is still filling that it's okay. He said it's most likely a bladder spasm and could give me medication if it's troublesome.
I said no because it doesn't hurt it's just messy.
I asked if Dr Joice left any remarks on the dilation. He said it's not official but the note read that he dilated a bulbar stricture and that the bladder was clear of any lesion.
Wow I'm very happy for this.
Dr Joice did say that my blood thinner may be the culprit in making the bleeding worse.

I'll talk to my cardiologist.

Happy Glen
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theswan
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Posted 3/18/2023 1:35 PM (GMT -8)
Gotta say it again. No cystitis!
Well the assistant doctor had my record so I'm pretty sure he's read it correctly.

As far as the bladder spasm goes, I had another and lost some urine but I had sat on the toilet so most went into the bowl.
I'm going to have to look up bladder spasm and see what it is and why it happens.
I hope it goes away. I'm guessing that it creates a lot of pressure and can force the urine through the catheter tubes side.
Feels more like a extreme urgency to urinate.
Still happy about the no lesion notice.
Weird thing is how a mere stricture caused so much blood and clots??

Glen
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Jack64
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Posted 3/18/2023 7:41 PM (GMT -8)
Glen, glad to hear you are doing better. Bladder spasms are quite common during or after having a catheter. Usually the doc will prescribe medication to calm down the spasms. In any case they do go away. After my
TURP I had spasms. The medication calmed them down. Don’t fret about them they will go away. Great news and my best wishes.
Jack
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theswan
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Posted 3/19/2023 2:20 AM (GMT -8)
Thanks Jack.
So glad they are going to go away.
Tomorrow I remove the catheter. I'm hoping they go away.
I guess the catheter is seen as a pathogen to the bladder and it tries to push it out.
Just a guess.
The pain is felt in the penis so I guess it's a refered pain.
Took a diphenhydramine instead of getting the prescription because doctor said it can constipate. Most urine is going into the bag.
Other than the urgency due to spasm, I'm feeling better.

Glen
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Posted 3/19/2023 1:33 PM (GMT -8)
Glen, I continue to look every day for your updates. The updates sound positive and it seems like you are doing better. I will continue my good thoughts and prayers for you.
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theswan
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Posted 3/19/2023 8:22 PM (GMT -8)
Thanks Wife #1
Spasms have died down. I've been taking diphenhydramine and today took an Aleve which is an NSAID I rarely take them but I'm off the blood thinner for now and the combination seems to have worked on the bladder spasm.

Couple of hours and I take out the catheter.
Hoping for the best. No retention and no incontinence!
Fingers crossed.

Glen
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theswan
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Posted 3/20/2023 6:30 AM (GMT -8)
Took the catheter out a few minutes ago.
Had a hard time this go around. I started to really pull hard then stopped and re tried the syringe. Wow I pulled out a lot more water and the catheter almost fell out.
So now I wait to see if I can urinate
Fingers crossed.

Glen
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Posted 3/20/2023 7:12 AM (GMT -8)
I did urinate but not a lot of volume.
There's some blood but not a lot.
I'll drink some water and monitor

Glen PS I voided a second time and had more volume but some red blood.
I did a poor job of removing the catheter and pulled too hard. I didn't remove enough water with the syringe. I repeated it and much more water was removed and the catheter came out easily.
Hope I didn't damage tissue.
In any case I'll have to remain off Xaralto.
G
BTW I am still waiting for the doctor to post on the patient portal. I really want to read his notes
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theswan
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Posted 3/20/2023 2:43 PM (GMT -8)
Still nothing on the patient portal. I'll call tomorrow which I need to do anyway. Discharge instructions said to make appointment for four weeks.
Good luck trying that on the portal. First appt is May. Doctor is only one of two reconstruction specialist's so is super busy.
Columbia Presbyterian is a huge hospital so I'm surprised there are only two.
I'm voiding but have hematuria. It's not heavy and maybe to be expected after taking out the catheter.
Still I hope I didn't do extra damage when I pulled hard
At least I didn't pull it all the way out before I took all the water out of the balloon
Glen
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Posted 3/20/2023 9:52 PM (GMT -8)

theswan said...

In any case I'll have to remain off Xaralto.
G

Swan….you mentioned you were on Xerelto earlier in the thread. I didn’t say anything then. But, this was my experience…

The abdominal surgery of my prostatectomy created a clot in my leg that was about 6” long. I was immediately placed on Xerelto in the ER. Shortly after…visible blood began to show up in my urine. We looked everywhere. The only thing we could come up with was a good sized kidney stone…too big to pass. I was on and off Xerelto during the stone blasting and my stricture dilation. Every rock had been looked under for the source of the blood. But none was ever found even though the bleeding continued every time I was on Xerelto. This went on for about a year. Xerelto equaled bleeding. No Xerelto equaled no bleeding. My doctors wanted me on the Xerelto for the rest of my life. But every time I was put on it the bleeding old begin again. This, even with much testing as to where the bleeding was coming from.

It was finally determined that no cause for the bleeding could be found. It was then that the doctors determined that gross bleeding wasn’t acceptable and that the Xerelto had to be stopped.

I had been on and off it for about a year when they finally pulled the plug on the Xerelto. I haven’t bled since.

Just one man’s anecdotal experience with Xerelto. I’m confident that if I went back on it the bleeding would resume.
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theswan
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Posted 3/21/2023 2:47 AM (GMT -8)
Thank you island time.
I've been taking about this with my RO and urologist and now the specialist reconstructive surgeon. They all said it is possible the Xaralto is making it worse.
Well I have had two urinations in a row that are clear of blood, so I just took my Xaralto just now. First one in nine days.
I've made appointment with my cardiologist and will talk about this.
I'm scared of having a stroke but of course am also scared of clots blocking my urine flow.
Maybe I can take Xaralto every other day or switch to another? Who knows?
Fact is I can live with hematuria so long as it's not causing clots.
Thanks again this is a important possibility.

Glen
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Posted 3/21/2023 4:15 AM (GMT -8)
This may be of interest. There are other compounds that have not not been perfected yet.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/study-finds-which-blood-thinner-is-least-likely-to-cause-internal-bleeding
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theswan
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Posted 3/21/2023 6:06 AM (GMT -8)
Thanks Mumbo. Eliquis seems to cause the least bleeding. I've been on it before and will see what my cardiologist thinks.
A couple of hours after taking Xaralto I have blood again but just a little bit.
The bleeding is not so much the problem. Clots from the bleeding are.
Right now I'm voiding okay and that's good.

Glen. PS I'm back to peeing blood mixed with the urine. It's bright red so I'm guessing it's coming out from the urethra.
If it doesn't clear I'll stop the Xaralto again.
I see the cardiologist on next Tuesday
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Posted 3/22/2023 11:38 PM (GMT -8)
Update
Stopped the Xaralto but still have bleeding. Not a lot and have a couple of clear voids now and again.
Kinda worried about stroke and may start blood thinner again.
Urine flow is good and even better than good at times.

Glen
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