Pomegranate slows prostate cancer?

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wittler
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   Posted 7/22/2006 6:33 AM (GMT -7)   
  Has anyone else heard about the pomegranate thing? I was browsing another forum and someone had mentioned it so I Googled it. I don't know if this is a new thing or not, but it looks interesting. I know I'll be adding it to my grocery list this afternoon.
    It's funny that for the 1 & 1/2 yrs I've been diagnosed with MS, I've not been able to get myself interested in vitamins and even logical alternative treatment, but now that he has been diagnosed with PC, I have been trying to feed us tomatoes at dinner every night and figure out how to sneak tofu in his diet. I'm willing to do what ever it takes to get this cancer gone. If I loose this man, I will loose myself. I know that it is in his body, but it feels like it is in my heart.
 
OK, enough of that. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to drift of the subject. I am suffering wicked anxiety. We get the Bone and CT scan results in 51 hrs. Not to worry, outwardly I am very strong for him and the family.
 
Anyway..... Pomegranate looks like it might be a good thing.

elpaso
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   Posted 7/22/2006 8:03 AM (GMT -7)   
Supposedly helps slow progress of prostate cancer. Here's a recent study:

Purpose: Phytochemicals in plants may have cancer preventive benefits through antioxidation and via gene-nutrient interactions. We sought to determine the effects of pomegranate juice (a major source of antioxidants) consumption on prostate-specific antigen (PSA) progression in men with a rising PSA following primary therapy.

Experimental Design: A phase II, Simon two-stage clinical trial for men with rising PSA after surgery or radiotherapy was conducted. Eligible patients had a detectable PSA >0.2 and <5 ng/mL and Gleason score ≤7. Patients were treated with 8 ounces of pomegranate juice daily (Wonderful variety, 570 mg total polyphenol gallic acid equivalents) until disease progression. Clinical end points included safety and effect on serum PSA, serum-induced proliferation and apoptosis of LNCaP cells, serum lipid peroxidation, and serum nitric oxide levels.

Results: The study was fully accrued after efficacy criteria were met. There were no serious adverse events reported and the treatment was well tolerated. Mean PSA doubling time significantly increased with treatment from a mean of 15 months at baseline to 54 months posttreatment (P < 0.001). In vitro assays comparing pretreatment and posttreatment patient serum on the growth of LNCaP showed a 12% decrease in cell proliferation and a 17% increase in apoptosis (P = 0.0048 and 0.0004, respectively), a 23% increase in serum nitric oxide (P = 0.0085), and significant (P < 0.02) reductions in oxidative state and sensitivity to oxidation of serum lipids after versus before pomegranate juice consumption.

Conclusions: We report the first clinical trial of pomegranate juice in patients with prostate cancer. The statistically significant prolongation of PSA doubling time, coupled with corresponding laboratory effects on prostate cancer in vitro cell proliferation and apoptosis as well as oxidative stress, warrant further testing in a placebo-controlled study.

spinbiscuit
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   Posted 7/22/2006 8:19 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi wittler,

My wife read an article about the cancer fighting properties of pomegranate juice. She bought it, and mixed it 50/50 with orange juice (pomegranate is not to tastey on its own). Tomatoes also are credited with cancer fighting agents, but I understand they are most effective when processed, ie. ketchup, tomato sauce, paste, etc. Certainly other foods broccoli, carrots, and many more seem to help the body fight off the carcinogens that lead to cancer. The other thing we men tend to do is over eat beef which according to many studies has been connected to the developement of PCa. This is bad news for me because I love steak, burgers, roast, prime rib, and on and on. So my wife has substituted turkey and chicken in every posible form. (I will still eat steak, but only once in awhile).

At the very least all of these positive changes in diet makes me feel better, and positive attitude is the most potent weapon I have against this cancer.

Good luck to you both,

Glen


DWT
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   Posted 7/22/2006 12:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi to all,
this is SL - it may sound crazy but I have read this about Pomegranate Juice about 4 weeks ago on some Naturepathic Website. went out to buy some -it has to be the fully potent, non deluted juice, not from concentrate. It is hard to find-finally did, ordered a case-its expensive but I will try anything
HOWEVER after forcing DW to drink an 8oz glass every day for 4 weeks, his PSa went down from 4.76 to 3.64, he is taking lycopene (tomatoes) and Selenium with Vit E too. I don't know if its only the Juice but something is happening. I read that if the PSa gets lower the cancer slows down, I hope this is true. Now if it only could cure depression and overpowering anger, that would be great.
Pomegranate juice is supposed to have the ability to even kill cancer cells - don't know how long it takes to do this - would be fantastic. In any case it will not hurt you - maybe make things better. By the way, you get used to the trat taste after a while, I was told by Dw
SL

diabeticcrohn
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   Posted 7/24/2006 7:59 PM (GMT -7)   
I thought that using the concentrate and diluting it until normal strength was okay?
I have only been using it for 3 or 4 weeks, does it have to be the non diluted juice, I mean if you get juice concentrated times 4, and dilute it as appropriate will it really make a difference, if anyone knows for sure a reply would be appreciated.
Thanks

DWT
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   Posted 7/24/2006 8:38 PM (GMT -7)   
DIABETICCROHN,
I get the non diluted juice, looks pretty dark, doesn't have much sugar in it, it's pure. i buy yhe one from PomPom (smaller bottles only available) or the from a Healthfood store in the cooler section, not on the reg. shelves. Remember reading that this is the one, but couldn't tell you the difference.
Google the British naturepathic websites or Homeopathic ones. Can't remember where I seen it but it was impressive. Studies have been done in USA and Europe with great results. maybe it was one of the California Universities that did the USA studies.
SL

diabeticcrohn
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   Posted 7/25/2006 2:27 PM (GMT -7)   
DWT,
Thank you for your response, i'll take your advice and have a google.

Cheers DBC

Jim-N1BRP
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   Posted 9/24/2006 2:39 AM (GMT -7)   
[QUOTE]Hi wicket, we do the Pomegranate juice too. We've missed about a week since surgery, but I plan to start him back on it tomorrow. I buy the POM wonderful 100%, and have him drink half a bottle a day (about 6oz). That's what was used in the study except they did 8oz. I started a thread on it about a month ago, and SL (DWT's wife) said the used it and did have a drop in PSA. Worth a try...


I figured I would move this up since I had a hard time finding it.
Ellen where did you find it?

Jim

aus
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   Posted 9/24/2006 4:56 AM (GMT -7)   

Beef/Steak

There is a lot of research happening into cooking and  eating beef. One theory is that it's cooking with high heat and burning which creates the problems, regardless of whether it's beef, turkey, chicken or fish.

Some love to burn their steak, but that's less common with chicken and fish.


mikem
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   Posted 9/24/2006 11:41 AM (GMT -7)   
I have been drinking Pomegranite juice since I read the article a couple of months. I buy it at Costco in the refridgerated section. It is made by Naked Jucies and is premixed.
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