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Pete trips again!
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Posted 1/3/2007 10:16 AM (GMT -8)
SEE, I told you she writes better than I do! God, I love that Lady! She really is my better half!
Thanks for writing Lis and OK I woun't write about that Jerk (the Mobster)
Love, Pete
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ed from pa
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Posted 1/3/2007 10:23 AM (GMT -8)

Lisa, that is probably the best part of the story. I love mobster parts.

May God Bless you both richly and draw you closer together like you have never been before. That is my New Year prayer for the both of you.

your friend ed from pa

Jesus Christ Big C

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Posted 1/3/2007 12:14 PM (GMT -8)

ed from pa,

LOLOL!  Maybe I should've clarified and said "Pete, don't write about that WANNABE mobster"! Honestly, there's not much substance there for this board.  Suffice it to say that he's a very unhappy man who may never find peace or enjoyment in this lifetime.

Thank you for your lovely New Year prayer.  I believe there is a reason we're traveling the paths we're on and though we may or may not see it, there is a lesson to be learned in all that He brings us.

There is a reason Peter walked away after wrapping his motorcyle around a telephone pole, shattering the pole along with his leg.  There's a reason he wasn't killed with the driver of the Porsche when it slammed into a massive oak and he was ejected through the roof of the car. There's a reason he was blessed with a "textbook perfect" surgery at Johns Hopkins and now there's a reason Pete's found you and everyone else here.  

I don't have too much figured out (though I have PLENTY of theories!!) but I know in my heart at the end of this life, it will all come to pass and we will know His truth alongside our own.  God bless & be safe.

Cheers! 

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Posted 1/3/2007 3:25 PM (GMT -8)
Hey Pete and Lisa, you guys are great - keep it up. Pete, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks of your posting if they help you. In fact, I think most people are enjoying them and kind of wish they could be as open and expressive. I sure can't - just not my style. My best to you both.

Regards,

Bill
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Posted 1/3/2007 4:48 PM (GMT -8)
Dear Lisa *Pete’s Co-pilot      What a heart warming response!   Whewwwww   “Hey Pete… can I please borrow your Kleenex”!!!   You truly touched my heart and gave me happy tears…   Now that I think back….   I had the same feelings now that I had when Pete first came to us.   I think my response was WOW… I’ll be back…..   I had to process his posting because it truly touched me deeply.   Same goes now… WOW…   So ~ Miss Lisa……   I am so pleased to meet you and believe it or not ~ we’ve all been sending those heartfelt prayers, support, and encouragement to you also!!!   And there is no doubt ~ you felt them.   It sounds like you and Pete…. are on the same path now and will help each other on the stones in life…that seem a little slippery…. And we are always there too!!!!   with that extra hand.   Take care, In Friendship ~ Lee & Buddy
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Posted 1/3/2007 6:47 PM (GMT -8)
Lisa,

Did that schmoe actually accuse you of not knowing how he feels? Okay, now I'm irritated..LOL! I very nearly threw a man out on his ear for even suggesting I couldn't uderstand how HE feels!!!! The heck I couldn't...he took his woe-is-me crap out on his family for years...we ALL understood and knew how it felt. The only one that didn't seem to know how he felt was my husband himself! We understood completely having to live with it!
Men....grrrrrr.

Hey Pete...she should get flowers every day for the next 3 years at least!
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Posted 1/3/2007 10:42 PM (GMT -8)

Maybe she doesn't like flowers. How about horse feed.

ed from pa

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Pete trips again!
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Posted 1/4/2007 4:15 AM (GMT -8)
Thanks Ed! What is this Opra W. man bashing club?? Swim, I don't remember constantly saying that, I'm sure I did if Lis said I did, she is usually right. Just to let you know, Lisa gets flowers more than any girl I know! I do apreciate her and I know she knows how I feel. I also know that this has been harder on her than anyone inc. me! Her Mother died after a battle w/ brain cancer the year before I was diognosed! Remember, I left a lot out of "my story." Sometimes we (men) are thinking outloud and don't realize what we are saying, especially when we are pissed or depressed and there has been alot of that the past couple of years! Cancer is tough on everyone! Don't worry Swim, I'm not taking you TOO seriously! CAN"T WE ALL TRY TO GET ALONG??
Love Y'all!!
Pete
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Posted 1/4/2007 5:04 AM (GMT -8)

Pete, lets not forget, this is only the journey we are on, not the destination. Thank God. But, we are sure going to make the best of it. I am sending every new person on this forum to read Pete's Travels. It will take their mind off of why we do not want to be here. You are an inspiration to all of us, do not lose sight of that. When we start looking at ourselves is when we get in trouble. You have looked outside of yourself and shared episodes in your life that others may have had happen to them but would be afraid to share. Only because they would think we would think they are crazy or something else. We all go through crazy stuff, we all have a story to tell. But we are too afraid of what people think. That is life. Pete you are a real person, and thank you for sharing your heart to all of us, and by the way you are very normal indeed.

I stick by the horse feed, i kind of new Lisa gets plenty of flowers.

your friend ed from pa

Jesus Christ Big C

cancer small c

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Posted 1/4/2007 8:08 AM (GMT -8)
If we take the lid off and step outside the box, there is going to be a little light sensitivity until we face life with both eyes open. Think of it as a 12 step program for insiders.
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Posted 1/4/2007 9:58 AM (GMT -8)

Pete, nobody's bashing, least of all Swim, who's offered up an incredible amount of info and insight.  This is just more of the same.  You've come so far!   I'm so proud of you for facing your demons and taking control.  You are my treasure and I won't let you go again..ever. 

Ed, I sure do get flowers, LOTS of 'em...AND horse feed to boot! LOL! 

First time he gave me flowers was our 2nd date.  I heard the motorcycle coming in the distance, so I stood out on the balcony watching down the rode.  The biked turned into the parking lot, mufflers thumping off the apt building.  I looked down and there was Pete, climbing off the bike with a bunch of pink carnations sticking out of his black leather jacket, under his chin!  Yeah, makings of a "chic-flick" there somewhere!

Swim, Nice to meet you. How'd the birthday leather work out for you?

This sorta looks like a "Women are from Venus, Men are from Mars" thing goin' on. LOL!  ..and yes, it is true...years of it! tongue  

I think you might be onto something here...12 Step Program for Survivors! I'm in.... have we met?

So much has happened and no doubt about it, if anything'll get your hackles up it's "c".  This  *&#* disease isn't for the "faint-hearted". The emotional turmoil we've all experienced has run us through the wringer.  We all perceive situations, words, scenery, life in our own way at any given time, and our emotional and physical states might clarify or distort that perception.  Facts are facts, but there are often two views or perceptions of the same facts.  I didn't mean to misconstrue Peter's words, they are his words. 

Women, we can usually talk about anything and everything.  I HAVE to talk it out or it'll eat me alive.  But I also think I understood why Pete couldn't talk to me.  CANCER dx...here he was looking at his future, and his father's past.  That gut wrenching pain again, ripping through him like an embolism in a diver surfacing too quickly.  The realization of one of his greatest fears was now staring him down, burning right through the whole of him.

Peter and I celebrated our 25th wedding anniversary last September.  When we met in 1979, we were so in tune with eachother we would often complete sentences for one another, or one would begin to say something and the other would exclaim, "I was JUST thinking that"! We talked about EVERYTHING. 

"Wow, I've never met a guy who can listen and talk with me like this guy". That side of him was so unexpected. Being a big, strong, outdoor-type, he had lots of guy pals and would often take off for days with them.  He enjoyed fishing, camping, motorcycles, racing, but he was also pretty popular with the girls...and it wasn't just that fabulous "swimmer's" body he was still sporting at the time!  He knew how to talk to women, sharing information and self-history, he talked with me at length about his Dad's illness and the terrible struggle the family endured to survive; the endless surgeries, the chemo and radition sickness, the building and the ultimate destruction of hope, including a trip to Rome to be blessed by the Pope.  Were there tears?  You bet.  But when it came to relating how he had been effected, he'd stop short of the deep end, never diving towards that gruelling, smoldering pain.  Not only was it unbearable, it was unmanageable.  So he buried it all in the wrecklessness of his days and nights.

Me?  When my mother was sick and dying, I talked about it incessantly to everyone and ANYONE who cared to listen.  But it was my husband who bore the brunt of my pain.  If I was at home, he'd hear it 24/7, if I was in Massachusetts, he'd hear it over the phone.  He listened, he comforted, he talked me through it.  He'd been there before...he really KNEW what I felt.

Now it was my turn to be there for him, to listen and comfort and talk HIM through it as he'd done for me.  We'd been through lots of rough times together, this was just another hurdle to overcome.  But he wouldn't talk to me.  Was this his way of "protecting" himself, me, both of us?  (There's that Venus/Mars thing) And sure, I didn't KNOW how it felt, afterall I didn't have cancer. And he also knew we were both completely overloaded at that time; a son with a serious drug problem, terrible legal issues with my mother's estate, both working way over fulltime hours, problems with insurance ...blah, blah blah. It seemed endless, a constant barage of "stuff" that couldn't be ignored. 

I was also acutely aware that something in ME had splintered and SNAPPED.  I was in some type of self defense, (or self destruct) mode and I was numb to everything and everybody...thank you very much Mr. Tanguray and Mr. Smirnoff...felt I didn't have anything else left to give.  The "Ice Queen" had arrived and there wasn't enough fire left in me to melt her down. Much as I tried, I wasn't "there".  I watched as "some other family" crumbled and fell apart before my eyes.  I didn't understand any of it.

For the first time in my life, I no longer recognized my own reflection.  Who was this fickle, emotionally void airhead?  What happened to that strong, "fight the lions in a den",  woman that used to be here?  I couldn't get organized or plan, my memory was completely shot, and I was spinning my wheels trying to keep up the pace.  I could see Peter pulling away and I couldn't stop it.  So strange, we were so close, but so far away at the same time.  Like a pair of magnets, we  spun around, attracting and the next moment repelling one another - inseparable opposites!

We pulled together hard & fast for our boys, but we still weren't addressing Pete's problems.  I was so guilty about everything.  Wasn't it my job to keep things together and running smoothly?  "Don't worry, Mommy will fix", I used to say when the  boys were young, but I wasn't fixing anything and truth be told, felt I was making things worse.  In the back of my mind I could hear my own mother, "Snap out of it!!" ..sorry Mom, can't do it. I was too angry, grieving for my family's pain, and unable to control anything.  (Got an Aries here...know what I'm sayin'?)

I was terrified he wouldn't talk to me, (and after all, who'd want to?) so I urged, pushed and prodded him to talk to someone, ANYONE, before it totally crippled him, and I thought "and us too".

If he'd found you all at that time, I doubt it would have mattered.  He wasn't ready then.  We'd talked about finding a support group, but he wouldn't make any commitments. Then "Reel Recovery" happened, next this forum, "HealingWell", and now "Us Too". 

To those who may think Venus is an unreachable, isolated, a "never even want to approach it place", be warned...Distance between Mars and Venus is only 74,373,000 miles! (at the closest point in the orbits of both planets)

I didn't mean to start a "thing" here and maybe this should be my last post...I don't want to make more a a mess than I already have....and holy mackrel..I sure didn't mean to babble on so much.. my apologies to anyone bored by my drivel! 

Special thanks and blessings to each and everyone of you.  I am SO glad you're here for each other and you'll always be in my heart and prayers.

Cheers

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Posted 1/5/2007 5:19 AM (GMT -8)
Pete and Lisa, all I can say is that I appreciate both of you sharing from your hearts. I'm sure others here can share some of those emotions. You are incredible people and everything that happens has a purpose. We were never guarenteed an easy life, were we? by the way, how is your son Joe doing these days? kat
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Posted 1/5/2007 4:02 PM (GMT -8)

Keep it comin' Lisa, it's important for all of us - you too.  I can empathize with you regarding your son's drug addiction.  Our daughter had a terrible addiction that lasted for years.  She used up all the veins in her arms and was working on her legs when she had a brief moment of clarity and agreed to try rehab one more time.  There is always hope.  She has been clean and sober for 7 1/2 years.  She has completed her degree and begun working on her MBA.  She met and married a great guy and their beautiful baby is in the next room as I write this.  Never give up. You two a great.

Regards,

Bill

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Posted 1/6/2007 5:54 AM (GMT -8)
Hello All,
After reading my wife's powerful peice about our life w/ PC and how it has efected our family, I had to take a short break to sort of catch my breath! Wow! I wish I could write like that! Although we lived it all together, it sounds so different coming from someone other than myself. I'm so glad she decided to join in and express her feelings here to all our little family. As Lisa pointed out, the big turning point for me was the trip I took out to California to attend the REEL RECOVERY Retreat with other cancer survivors and brave guys battling the demon. I know I've mentioned them before, but I think their worth another plug.
Since attending, one of the guys, the one who had the most profound impact on me has died. I think he is worth mentioning here because he was a big reason that I'm here writing to y'all today. In 3 short days he became my hero, my mentor, my family. At 80 years old, a more gentle and kind man I never met but brave and strong enough to spend his last days on earth trying to help others like himself stricken by cancer. That one beutiful afternoon sitting on the bank of the river with Mike while all the other guys were out in the river fly fishing, catching and releasing all those beutiful trout, we talked. Mike was too weak to wade out into the powerful curents where the fish were biting but he loved to fly fish so we just sat there taking futile casts togeather knowing there was little chance of catching one. I don't think he really cared if he caught any, he enjoyed watching the others, encouraging them with a cheer while they were reeling them in. I went all the way to California from Florida to catch some wild native trout but there I was sitting on the bank with Mike listening to the wisdom of a dying man. My life and the way I live my life changed that afternoon in the N. California Mountains because of The folks at REEL RECOVERY and an old man's kind words. So here I am writing to y'all hoping that my words might help some one like myself who was lost untill that afternoon I spent with Mike.
God bless you all and you to Mike, I'll never forget you!
Pete
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Posted 1/6/2007 10:44 AM (GMT -8)

M. Kat,

Thanks so much for the support.  No, life sometimes isn't easy, at times it can be down-right unbearable, but it's all in how you look at it... You can lay down and succumb to the darkness or keep that "light" strong in your mind and heart, your hopes and dreams "POSITIVE" and they will become your reality.  I think in the end I'll be one of those meeting my Maker, body all banged, bruised and spent, sliding in on all fours saying, "Wow!  That was one WILD ride"!!

Our son Joe is doing just great,thanks for asking!  He was home on leave for 15 days for the holidays and we had such a good time with him.  The Navy seems to suit him well.  As we said our "good-byes" at the airport the other night, I held him tight, remembering all that has happened over the past few years.  "You've grown into such a strong, healthy, wonderful young man and we're SO proud of you" I whispered through my tears.  "Aw, Mom" he said, and hugged me close. As he stepped back, I saw a tear rolling down his cheek, and he turned quickly so I wouldn't see.  I smiled and thought, "Yes, quite a young man, but you're still my little boy"! 

JetGuy,

You are such an inspiration as well!  After reading your post describing the marker implantation and impending process of your treatments, I was floored...and a 75 mile mile round trip for 8 1/2 weeks?  Darn right you better get that 2:00 pm time slot! We'll keep routing for you and sending that positive "light" to Dallas!

And 7 1/2 years of sobriety!!! WOW! I know how proud of your daughter you must be and am thrilled for you all!  What a great success story! :-)

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Posted 1/23/2007 6:26 AM (GMT -8)

Pete and Lisa, good morning to you.  Thanks for your kind replys to my ranting and other posts.  Yes, Lisa, we are super proud of our daughter's success.  It was a tremendous battle, but we all won.  I sure don't want to do it again.

Pete, thanks for your response to that post that I almost didn't post.  I sat here for about 20 minutes trying to decide whether or not to hit the submit button.  Glad now that I did.  I have done a number of them that I deleted.

You have excellent taste in motorcycles, Pete.  I would love to have an old bevel drive Ducati.  I have owned two rubber head models - a 900SS and a 750F1B.  Yeah, the old Brit bikes leaked oil and electricity.  James Lucas - the prince of darkness.  : )  I used to get on that Bonnie and just go as fast as it would go.  No helmet, no goggles, no brains.  I would lock the throttle and stand up on the seat.  Couldn't do it at high speed due to the wind blast.  I can no longer remember how fast that was.

I'm going in for my first treatment today at 2:00.  I've been told that a full bladder is a good idea, so I've been practicing 'holding it' and have gotten pretty good at it.  It's amazing how a bit of fear focuses the mind and hones the body. 

Anyway, let's hear from both of you some more.  Pete, your stream of consciousness rantings are just great.  Lisa, your more organized writing is equally thought provoking and heart warming. 

I vote for Kansas City.  Glen can direct us to the best BBQ in town.

Regards,

Bill

P.S.  Good thing we were crazy then, Pete.  Today it would kill us.  And people are less tolerant of that kind of behavior.  Like buzzing, or flying under bridges. 

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Posted 1/23/2007 9:05 AM (GMT -8)
Bill, I'm glad you wrote that post too! I think a bunch of others were pretty impressed with your writing also! It was a real heart felt story. Let us know how you make out with your treatment, I'll say a prayer at 2:00pm! and be thinking about you. Back to motorcycles, my older brother rode a 65' Bonnie out west from the N.E. in the summer of 69' with his best friend. I don't know if he thought he was EZ rider or then came Bronson? He ended up blowing it up somewhere out in the Montana Rockies and had to fly home. I think he sold it for 50 buck or something. He had a real clean ealry 70ish 500 Daytona dual carb. (Zenner diod!! Lucas finest) I almost bought Lisa for a engagement pressent but wanted to kept it in the family so I got her a little 450 single bevel drive Ducati 72'roadster. It weighed nothing, like 230lbs and would do 100mph! I put clip on handle bars and a conti muffler on it, sounded great! It was a blast to through around in tight corners, handled great! It was 1/2 the displacement of my 900. I ended up selling it because we needed a refrigerator! Ouch! The good old days! Yes, I don't know how I made it through those (speed years) I had some very close calls! and am paying now for the crashes I did have. I actually hit a deer on a bike once! Anyway thanks for the compliments you wrote, yes Lisa deserves them but me? Are you kidding? I'm just (FDH) at it's finest! All my best to you at 2:00pm my friend!
Pete

ps, FDH = fat, dumb, & happy!!
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