Posted 3/28/2007 3:07 PM (GMT -7)
Hey Courtney, Tanya and Smart A** Susan,

You girls are wonderful and soooo helpful!!!! What would we ever do without you????

Jim
Age 72. Diagnosed 11/03/06. PSA 7.05. Stage T2B Gleason 3+3.
RRP 12/7/06. Nerves and nodes okay.
Pathological stage: T2B. Gleason 3+4. Cancer confined to prostate.
PSA on 1/3/07 - 0.04.  Next PSA on 4/4/07.
 
 "Cancer feeds on fear - starve it to death."

Posted 3/28/2007 3:22 PM (GMT -7)
uh oh :) are we girls in trouble? my question was serious :) really ....
Significant other diagnosed: 10/30/06
PSA: 3.7 (up from 3.4 prior year)
Gleason: 3+3
Biopsy: 1/10 positive, 5% cancerous, right apex.
Da Vinci Scheduled: 4/10/07

Posted 3/28/2007 4:55 PM (GMT -7)
I was able to find Serenity for Men at Walmart. I heard Walgreens also carries them. They arent that easy to find. My surgeon also was glad to find a store that carries them as they are perfect for the occasional leak.
Bob
Diagnosed 12/14/06
Age: 54
Gleason 6
PCA - Positive
PSA 5.3
Biopsy 3 of 12 positive
T1C
Right Lat Mid - Gleason 3 + 3 = 6 - 4% of specimen
Right Lat Base - Gleason 3 + 3 = 6 - 5% of specimen
Left Base - Gleason 3+ 3 = 6 - 5% of specimen
RRP 2/20/2007

Posted 3/28/2007 7:48 PM (GMT -7)
I'm a Serenity for Men fan, but they are hard to come by.  In desperation, my wife had picked me up some Safeway and Long's Drug brand pads, which I've used when in a pinch.  But I've had to let the callous build up to be reasonably comfortable in those -- ya know what I mean guys?   My father always said, "The dearest is the cheapest," and he was right.  I say go with Serenity.  They're the Cadillac of pads.   (I can't wait to trade in my "Cadillac" for a pair of my old boxers.) 54 years old PSA = First ever was 9.8 in late Oct. ‘06, two weeks later, 10.1 DRE: Negative Biopsy results 11/22/06 (6 out of 8 cores positive), both lobes, Gleason 3+3 = 6 Da Vinci Robotic RP surgery, City of Hope, Jan 12, 2007 Post surgery pathology – Organ confined, Gleason still 6, margins clear. First post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 2/20/07
Posted 3/28/2007 8:16 PM (GMT -7)
I'm still using the Depends Guards for Men. I need the extra thickness to contain my leaking. I have had a few leaks at work the last two weeks. Going in tomorrow for the Cottegen injection. I hope it helps!!!

KW
    43
    PSA 5.7 - Discovered during Annual Physical with Family Practice Dr.
    Gleason 7
    Biopsy - 3 of 12 positive (up to 75%) all on left side of prostate
    RRP on Oct. 17, 2006 - Nerves on right side saved.
    All Lab's clear.  No Cancer outside prostate
    Cathiter in for 3 weeks due to complications in healing. Removed Nov. 9, 2006
    First Post op PSA on Dec. 11, 2006  Undetectable 0.00
    Office visit on Jan. 19th due to continued excessive urine leakage.
    Feb.20th Cystoscope and 2nd Post Op PSA. Another 0.00.....:)
    Dr. said everything looks fine.  Continue to work Kegeal's. Leaking appears to have improved  after Cystoscope?!?!?!  Down to 3-4 pads per day!
    March 1st  Leaking has crept back up to 6 - 8 pads a day ??????? 
    March 8th Started Detrol LA to see if it helps with the leaking?
    May 22nd Follow up and 3rd Post Op PSA
   

Posted 3/28/2007 9:28 PM (GMT -7)
www.drugstore.com is the best place to buy Serenity for Men. No questions or funny looks, either.

I prefer Serenity to Depends, though I have some of each due to running out away from home in the past. Depends I find are bulky and a slightly odd shape, and droop when they are even slightly filled, compared to Serenity.
____________________
 
Prostate cancer diagnosed:  May 15, 2006 (age 40)
Gleason score:  3+3=6
daVinci radical prostatectomy:  July 25, 2006
size of tumor:  approx 1.1 inches
post-surgery Gleason score:  3+4=7; negative margins from surgery
number of pads/day at 3 months after surgery:  3 to 5
number of pads/day at 4 months after surgery:  1 to 2
number of pads/day at 6 months after surgery:  0 to 1
1st post-surgery PSA:  0 (Nov 2006)
2nd post-surgery PSA:  0 (Feb 2007)
ongoing post-surgery treatment:  Cialis every other day, Viagra "on-demand", ErecAid pump daily Cialis every other day, ErecAid pump twice daily (when I can manage it)
 

Posted 3/28/2007 10:19 PM (GMT -7)

While I bought a package of Serenity for mens, that resembled the cup I use for my baseball umpiring, I have been fortunate not to need that much protection.  That's why I turned to the women's isle, actually borrowing one from my wife after she had a bladder infection.  They take care of that occasional drip that comes without warning.  I had a double header today, and could have gotten by without one, since there was a porta-potty there for between games!

I know you women are chuckling, reading men talking about which pad we prefer!  How this disease can bring the male ego down a peg or two!!!


PSA 4.7 (up from 3.2 one year ago)
Biopsy November 8, 2006
1 of 10 cores positive 5% LEFT Side
2 others questionable (small gland proliferation)
Gleason 3+3
Robotic surgery January 19, 2007
Post Surgery Pathology
     Stage T3a, Gleason 3+4, positive margins and
     capsular penetration RIGHT Side
Post Surgery PSA:  March 5:  0.01

Posted 3/30/2007 1:30 PM (GMT -7)
I found the Attends at a web site www.justattends.com. I ordered them yesterday, so I will let you know what Kurt thinks. Oh and Hawk, not trying to bring anyone's ego down. PCa does a funny thing to men. As 2 of Kurts doctors put it, It makes you do things that women have dealt with for years. Courtney
Kurt & Courtney
47 year old
Great Health prior to dx
Dx on 1/29/07
PSA 4.1
Gleason 3+3=6, both lobes
Stage T2c, I believe
Tumor involves 20% of cores, both lobes
Live in OK
Da Vinci scheduled 3-14-07 in Austin
Post-Op  Gleason 6, Stage t2c nx mx  YAAAAA HOOOOOO! 

Posted 3/30/2007 2:39 PM (GMT -7)
To all you guys - Though I've been known to be a Smart A** (my husband will swear to that!) there's no one who respects you more than I do.

You give so much of yourselves to ALL of us. So open, caring and willing to put yourselves out there.

I truly thank God ya'll are just the way you are! :-)

Now to answer the original question: Don settled on Serenity and used mucho baby powder. I love baby powder.


Susan
Posted 3/30/2007 2:58 PM (GMT -7)

Hey Dawg,

    My surgery was October also.  I had gotten back to soaking a pad in about an hour when on my feet.  My Dr. wanted to do the collagen injection to help build up the sphincter.  While it was not a pleasant epxperence but it seems to have worked.

Read KW's Journey for the details.  Ask you Dr. if you are interested in it.

  KW


    43
    PSA 5.7 - Discovered during Annual Physical with Family Practice Dr.
    Gleason 7
    Biopsy - 3 of 12 positive (up to 75%) all on left side of prostate
    RRP on Oct. 17, 2006 - Nerves on right side saved.
    All Lab's clear.  No Cancer outside prostate
    Cathiter in for 3 weeks due to complications in healing. Removed Nov. 9, 2006
    First Post op PSA on Dec. 11, 2006  Undetectable 0.00
    Office visit on Jan. 19th due to continued excessive urine leakage.
    Feb.20th Cystoscope and 2nd Post Op PSA. Another 0.00.....:)
    Dr. said everything looks fine.  Continue to work Kegeal's. Leaking appears to have improved  after Cystoscope?!?!?!  Down to 3-4 pads per day!
    March 1st  Leaking has crept back up to 6 - 8 pads a day ??????? 
    March 8th Started Detrol LA to see if it helps with the leaking?
    March 29th Collagen injection into sphincter / bladder neck area to control excessive leaking.
    Return office visit May 2nd unless leaking starts agian.
    May 22nd Follow up and 3rd Post Op PSA
   

Posted 3/30/2007 4:47 PM (GMT -7)

Hi Folks,

I'm about seven months out and still have occasional leaks on the order of a few drops after voiding, which is often, because I think I lost some bladder capacity with the surgery.

I looked at the Attends website and the ones that look like a cup look neat, but they are kinda pricey online.

I have experimented with using an Always women's product that is kind of a cross between a pantyliner and a thin maxipad, the super long kind without the wings. I take two of them, and put the top of the adhesive side of one on the top of the absorbing side of the other. Then I take the bottom of the one that was on top and twist it around, so that that one's absorbing side sticks to the bottom adhesive side of the other. This makes a cup similar to the Attends thing, but at a fraction of the price. The adhesive parts of both of these then can be attached to the inside of the pouch area of one's shorts.  The twist forms an overlapping area that doesn't leak.

A new "twist" on an old proverb: Prostate Cancer is the Mother of Invention.

For what it's worth, which is not much.

dj

 


dj's stats:
PSA (10/04): 2.9; PSA (2/06):4.4, on Androgel (serum T about 450) at age 56; negative DRE, no symptoms.
PSA (5/06):5.7 with a free PSA% of 8, OFF Androgel (serum T 163). 
Biopsy (5/06): 4/12 samples positive; postitive samples only on right side; max Gleason 4+3=7 (in 2 of the 4 -from area nearest bladder. One was 40% of sample, the others less than a mm. thick.
DaVinci robotic-assisted laparoscopic radical prostatectomy + bladder lift + Right nerve plastic surgery (8/23/06).
Catheter out 4 weeks postop, due to internal pinhole leak at bladder-urethra junction.
Pads-Not needed after about 2 weeks post-cath, but gotta go a lot more often.
Final pathology report:T2c-both sides,but in capsule; neg. margins, neg. lymph nodes, neg. seminal vesicles; final max Gleason still 4+3=7.
1st Follow-up PSA (11/7/06): <0.008 !!!; serum T: 195 - still OFF Androgel (at present). Low T may delay return of erectile function (in presence of one damaged nerve).
2nd Follow-up PSA (3/19/07): <0.003 !!!; serum T: pending.
 

Posted 5/24/2007 10:03 PM (GMT -7)
Just to add my two cents.... I had a friend who had open radical prostatectomy. When he found out about my surgery he passed on his remaining (Assurance) Ultra Thin pads. Pretty comfortable I must say! After reading the posts here about the Serenity pads I decided to try them. After the first five I returned them to Walmart and bought the Assure Ultra Thin pads again. My Findings: the main difference was that the Assure were wider a must with the amount of leakage which occures in one shot. Also the Assure were more absobent allowing a couple of hours longer use per day. The Assure pads are also contoured to go under the scrotum area as are the Serenity pads. And finally the package of 52 were under $10.00. Assure can be found at your local Walmart. Hope this info is of some help to someone out there. David M.  (Post edited to correct brand name above…. ) Assurance male guards by Tyco   (see posting further down by drmartin) Post Edited By Moderator (bluebird) : 7/16/2007 5:51:59 PM (GMT-6)
Posted 5/25/2007 2:49 AM (GMT -7)

Good Morning,

My friends often call me piel del codo ( a Mexican idiom literally meaning "skin of the elbow" that pokes a little fun at the frugal) as I tend to stretch a dollar....

This might be useful to some of you:

I use a store brand men's incontinence pad that is much like what Dr. Martin describes.  (I personally don't feel good giving the  W-art any money.....)

Now that I am just leaking a few small squirts a day in the same spot on a pad, I cut these pads into thirds and use the adhesive strip to hold them into place.
 
It is much cooler, much like using a small women's serenity incontinence pad, ultra-cheap, and can be cut in larger sizes for more active days (or more public outings).
 
ICTHUS
 
CCedar
 
P.S.  Danya Vad (Thanks in Hindi.) to Swim/Paul for the tip about alldaychemist.com.  I would never have done business with such a source without your reference.  CC



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2 Years of PSA between 4 and 5.5
Biopsy 23DEC06 
Only 5 percent cancer in one of 8 samples.
Gleeson 3+3=6
Radical Prostatectomy 16FEB07 at age 54.
1+" tumor - touching inside edge of gland.
Confined:)
***************
Texas Hill Country
FRESH Produce Department Manager
Have you had your 5 colors today?

Post Edited (Cedar Chopper) : 5/25/2007 3:59:58 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/25/2007 12:00 PM (GMT -7)
Serenity's were also my favorites. Toward the end of needing pads, I used up some of the sandpaper-textured generics I had bought and found them to be quite warm. I'm glad I'm done with them in time for summer in Vegas.
Good luck!

54 years old

PSA = First ever was 9.8 in late Oct. ‘06, two weeks later, 10.1

DRE: Negative

Biopsy results 11/22/06 (6 out of 8 cores positive), both lobes, Gleason 3+3 = 6

Da Vinci Robotic RP surgery, City of Hope, Jan 12, 2007

Post surgery pathology – Organ confined, Gleason still 6, margins clear.

First post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 2/20/07

Posted 6/4/2007 12:36 PM (GMT -7)

drmartin,

 

Are the Assure Ultra Thin pads meant for men? Can't seem to find them on the internet to research.


Diagnosed 8/24/06
Gleason 6
PSA 3.32
stage T1C
age 48
daVinci on 10/20/06
Husband, Father, Son, Brother, Friend
"Never miss a good chance to listen."
 

Posted 6/5/2007 3:30 PM (GMT -7)
I'm using Poise Regular,,, seems I'm the only one, maybe I should switch? Anyway, just for insurance, not much leaking anymore.

Axe
Axe - 59
Diagnosed - October, 2004 - PSA 3.3 up from 2.4
Gleason 3+3 = 6
T2A
DaVinci Surgery - January, 2005
UVA Medical Center
All PSA's at 0.00 since

Posted 6/8/2007 7:52 PM (GMT -7)
Dawgfan,

My bad! The brand is Assurance male guards by Tyco and they are for men.
I only have found them at the actual Walmart stores not online. They are made by tyco health care

their phone no. is...1-800-262-0042 reference no: pas2ms61aa

their website is,

http://www.incontinent.com/Incontinent/products/male/light.html

the first one one the list. this info came from the actual package.

Good luck. Hope this helps.

Dave M.
Age: 52
Male, Hispanic   
 
11/10/2006
PSA 10.2 - Discovered during Annual Physical with Family Doctor
Referred to Urologist Surgeon specialist
Free and total PSA - 10.9
 
Biopsy ( sent to John Hopkins pathology) - 2 of 16 positive on left and right apex of prostate
Left - GS 3+3=6, Right - GS 3+3=6
 
Davinci assisted laparoscopy radical prostatectomy on Apr. 17, 2007 -Complications due to extreme unusual size of prostate. Normal Prostate = 20 to 31 grams. Mine = 120 grams (not enlarged, but genetic growth large)
Nerves on right side spared.
All Lab's clear.  No Cancer outside prostate
 
Cystogram Apr. 24 2007- Slight leakage at anastomosi negligible.
Catheter in for 1 week  Removed Apr. 24, 2007
 
Second post op office visit on set  for May 30th.
 
 
    

Posted 6/8/2007 7:59 PM (GMT -7)
Dawgfan, Kurt loves the Attends. We found them at Justattends.com. They are very lite and not as hot. And, is dawgfan due to UGA? Kurt graduated from there and we have a pug named PUGA. Courtney
Kurt & Courtney
47 year old
Great Health prior to dx
Dx on 1/29/07
PSA 4.1
Gleason 3+3=6, both lobes
Stage T2c, I believe
Tumor involves 20% of cores, both lobes
Live in OK
Da Vinci scheduled 3-14-07 in Austin
Post-Op  Gleason 6, Stage t2c nx mx  YAAAAA HOOOOOO! 
1st PSA Post OP  Undetectable!!!!!!  OFF THE CHART
2nd CT scan, to recheck enlarged lymph nodes not related to PCa NO CHANGE relook in 6 months

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