Any golfers who did Davinci? When did you start to play again? :-)

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Rickard
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   Posted 5/16/2007 1:45 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi!
 
I did my Da Vinci roboassisted surgery in Stockholm at Karolinska hospital in last Thursday for my PC. The surgeon is very experienced and have done several hundreds of them. He as a very good record with his results. Comparable with the best hospitals in the US. Had some post op problems with 8 hours of throwing up - probably a reaction from morfin intake. So become very tired and I went out from hospital only on Sunday. I am still a bit tumbled and have to take Aspirin. but otherwise no problems so far. I started to do walks already on monday and had had walks for about 30 minutes to up to 1,5 hours which I had today. No heavy lifting for some 3 months they said. But does this apply to golf to? Anybody who can tell when you started to swing the club after operation and how it felt? One of the surgeons of this method who I met in hospital told me I could start to play a bit already after 4 weeks. Isnt that a bit optimistic? Any golfers here who got some experience? So longing for my golf rounds... :-)...
 
Sincerely

Rickard, Stockholm
 
PSA 5.8
Confined to prostate.
Gleason 3+4
Age: 50
Da Vinci at Karolinska hospital, Stockholm may 10

drmartin
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   Posted 5/16/2007 2:53 PM (GMT -7)   

Hello,

 

My doctor said five weeks to swing a driver full swing. Its been four! I'm going to the range tomorrow to hit some short irons and putt.

I have a company tournament June 2nd. Luckly its a scramble.

Good Luck,

DRM

 


Age: 52
Male, Hispanic   
 
11/10/2006
PSA 10.2 - Discovered during Annual Physical with Family Doctor
Referred to Urologist Surgeon specialist
Free and total PSA - 10.9
 
Biopsy ( sent to John Hopkins pathology) - 2 of 16 positive on left and right apex of prostate
Left - GS 3+3=6, Right - GS 3+3=6
 
Davinci assisted laparoscopy radical prostatectomy on Apr. 17, 2007 -Complications due to extreme unusual size of prostate. Normal Prostate = 20 to 31 grams. Mine = 120 grams (not enlarged, but genetic growth large)
Nerves on right side spared.
All Lab's clear.  No Cancer outside prostate
 
Cystogram Apr. 24 2007- Slight leakage at anastomosi negligible.
Catheter in for 1 week  Removed Apr. 24, 2007
 
Second post op office visit on set  for May 30th.
 
 
    


Swimom
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   Posted 5/16/2007 3:02 PM (GMT -7)   
 
The surgeon only told me "don't do anything stupid" Meaning, don't lift a bag but swinging was fine.
I hit a few rounds inside of 3 weeks. 
 
Lt. Paul

biker90
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   Posted 5/16/2007 3:22 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello Rickard,

Welcome to the PCa forum. I don't play golf but found that I could do most of the things I normally do after about 6 or 8 weeks. My doc told me not to lift anything heavier than a mild carton for the first 4 weeks. Everything healed up fine and the only thing that hurt was when the cat would jump on my stomach...

Jim
Age 72. Diagnosed 11/03/06. PSA 7.05. Stage T2B Gleason 3+3.
RRP 12/7/06. Nerves and nodes okay.
Pathological stage: T2B. Gleason 3+4. Cancer confined to prostate.
PSA on 1/3/07 - 0.04. 
PSA on 4/4/07 - 0.00  T level - 48  Restarted T therapy.
Next PSA on 7/18/07.
 
 "I have cancer but cancer does not have me."


kziz
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   Posted 5/16/2007 4:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Welcome Rickard, My husband played a few holes 4 weeks post surgery, and as long as he swung easy (he has a tendancy to try to kill the ball), he was fine. He played in a tournament the next day. We are now 8 weeks out and played 3 rounds this weekend, and the first 2 were cart path only with VERY soggy fairways. Good luck to you and just remember, da Vinci or not, you just had your insides cut in half. We both understand the "urgency" to get back to the course. We live on a course and had to fight the urge every nice day. Your body will tell you if you are pushing yourself. Courtney
Kurt & Courtney
47 year old
Great Health prior to dx
Dx on 1/29/07
PSA 4.1
Gleason 3+3=6, both lobes
Stage T2c, I believe
Tumor involves 20% of cores, both lobes
Live in OK
Da Vinci scheduled 3-14-07 in Austin
Post-Op  Gleason 6, Stage t2c nx mx  YAAAAA HOOOOOO! 


Rickard
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   Posted 5/16/2007 6:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for all this good answers so far! It really helps me to understand more about what is ahead. :-) Patience is probably the word... but as Courtney said... when you are a committed golfer and loves the sport its so hard to reframe from it...

Rickard

kw
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   Posted 5/16/2007 7:21 PM (GMT -7)   

    Rickard,  I has some complication with healing but I played my first round almost 2 months post op.  But the good thing was that with swinging easy and not trying to force the ball I shot one over my personal best.  Not bad for two months off!!!

    Just take is slow and easy.

    KW


    43
    PSA 5.7 - Discovered during Annual Physical with Family Practice Dr.
    Gleason 7
    Biopsy - 3 of 12 positive (up to 75%) all on left side of prostate
    RRP on Oct. 17, 2006 - Nerves on right side saved.
    All Lab's clear.  No Cancer outside prostate
    Cathiter in for 3 weeks due to complications in healing. Removed Nov. 9, 2006
    First Post op PSA on Dec. 11, 2006  Undetectable 0.00
    Office visit on Jan. 19th due to continued excessive urine leakage.
    Feb.20th Cystoscope and 2nd Post Op PSA. Another 0.00.....:)
    Dr. said everything looks fine.  Continue to work Kegeal's. Leaking appears to have improved  after Cystoscope?!?!?!  Down to 3-4 pads per day!
    March 1st  Leaking has crept back up to 6 - 8 pads a day ??????? 
    March 8th Started Detrol LA to see if it helps with the leaking?
    March 29th Collagen injection into sphincter / bladder neck area to control excessive leaking.  Worked for a couple of days then back to leaking.
    April 17th (Six Months Post Op) 2nd Collagen Injection to control excessive leaking.  Leaking started back next day at work!
    May 14th Second Opinion about my leaking and Options at OU Medical Center.
    May 30th Follow up and 3rd Post Op PSA
   


lifeguyd
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   Posted 5/16/2007 8:57 PM (GMT -7)   
 Hello Rickard
 
We live on the 5th hole of one of the courses in our community.  Every day after I surgery I looked out my back windows and watched the golfers go by.  I kept my putter by my bed so I could improve with practice.  But. my doctor said NO golf for six weeks.  I waited and on the 42nd day I played 18 holes of golf.  I guess I always try to obey the rules, you learn that in golf.
 
I play three to four rounds a week.  I would play more , but I have severe chronic back pain that requires me to rehab between rounds.
 
Don't push it if you do not feel well.  I tried to swing easier than usual when I first started back and I noticed that my index scores were lower than they are now (two months later).  Maybe I should learn something from that. lol
 
It's great to have something to look forward to.....
 
Biopsy 10/16/06
T2A,  PSA 4.7
Gleason 4+4=8 right side
adrenocarcinoma of prostate
DaVinci Surgery 01/16/07
Post op report,confirms Gleason4+4=8
no extra extension/invasion identified
age 65
Back on the golf course...
90 day PSA  less than 0.01 (undetectable)
 
 


dawgfan
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   Posted 5/17/2007 5:16 AM (GMT -7)   
My DaVinci was just prior to our winter; therefore, the weather was not fit to play when I was at the 6 week mark. My doc told me that pretty much anything within reason goes a that point. For what it's worth I'm about 7 months post op and swinging like old times again.
Diagnosed 8/24/06
Gleason 6
PSA 3.32
stage T1C
age 48
daVinci on 10/20/06
Husband, Father, Son, Brother, Friend
"Never miss a good chance to listen."
 


Rickard
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   Posted 5/17/2007 7:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks again for all advices. Very interesting to get them. Well, my strategy will be to be patient. I guess I will see the same doubble bogeys anyway... and eventually a birdie... later to... :-) Well, this things had the good with itself I got myself a Robbokaddy as a present to myself for having this disease... and to make it a bit easier to walk the first rounds... thank you myself! :-)

More advices and experiences? I still glad to recieve them!

Sincerely to all brothers! And sisters to... :-)

Rickard

biker90
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   Posted 5/17/2007 11:32 AM (GMT -7)   
Good for you Rickard!

Being good to yourself is very helpful to recovery. You sound upbeat and positive. That's great!!!

Jim
Age 72. Diagnosed 11/03/06. PSA 7.05. Stage T2B Gleason 3+3.
RRP 12/7/06. Nerves and nodes okay.
Pathological stage: T2B. Gleason 3+4. Cancer confined to prostate.
PSA on 1/3/07 - 0.04. 
PSA on 4/4/07 - 0.00  T level - 48  Restarted T therapy.
Next PSA on 7/18/07.
 
 "I have cancer but cancer does not have me."


Rickard
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   Posted 5/17/2007 1:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Jim! I am waiting for pathology report and are going back to surgeon for new PSA in six weeks. During this period I must be positive an only see solutions and the end of PC in my body.

Sincerely

daveed
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   Posted 5/24/2007 11:17 AM (GMT -7)   

Rickard

sorry i did not see this posting till now. I was back on the course three weeks afetr surgery.

Leaked like a sieve every time i had to bend down to tee it up or get my ball out of the cup but who cared. Just glad to be back on the course.

Daveed


Diagnosed March 06
PSA 4.4
Two biopsies. One core of each 5% cancer, two suspicious
Gleason 3+3=6
DaVinci surgery Nov 1, 06
Cancer confined to prostate
Ist PSA 6 weeks post op less than 0.02
2nd PSA 4 months undetectable
Next PSA end of June


Rickard
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   Posted 5/24/2007 12:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for your words Daveed! Three weeks! :-) Incredable. I tok out my catether this last monday after having it 11 days and have been dry since. Urologtherapeut said I might leak. On the other hand I dont have a good mecanics there yet and feel stings in the bladder and other perifec strange small pains. Sometimes good urination sometimes weak. She said it might be a swollen area for a while which will be decreasing the ability.

We will see how it will be when I tee up. I was planning for British Seniors this summer for the qualifications. I am 50 this year. But this dream died for this year when I was diagnosed. Pity. But there are still chances. :-) I recover quite quick but will take it easy with the golfing. Maybe start after 6 weeks seem reasonable...

Tony Crispino
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   Posted 5/24/2007 2:53 PM (GMT -7)   

What's your definition of Golf...

My scores before surgery 92-99.  After surgery just one time 115.  Ugly.  UUUUgly.  That was 12 weeks after. 

 

Tony


tomagolfing
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   Posted 5/25/2007 5:23 AM (GMT -7)   
 Had robotic surgery 4/5/2005 and played my first round of golf 16 days later on 4/21. Rode in cart for 9 holes but my bottom began to feel sore so I walked the final 9 holes and it was much better. Had no problem swinging the club and felt very good after the round. Have played 5 rounds since surgery{walking}and feel great. Make sure you wear a pad as you might have some leakage when swinging.

Rickard
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   Posted 5/25/2007 6:09 AM (GMT -7)   
woow... you are early on the course to, Tomagolfing. It gives me a lot of hope. Thank you!. I am 15 days after robot and still a bit total weakness and also irregular bladder movements. I am very dry. Maybe to dry even. And do not feel comfortable yet... I invested in a Robokaddy before and hope it will make it easier for me to walk the course. Golf is so important for my quality in life so I really need to start soon. I compete a bit to and need to get started for the season soon. I think with a positive life attitude and try to go on with the funny things its easier to come over the mental pressure this sickness give.

Rickard

Cedar Chopper
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   Posted 5/25/2007 6:55 AM (GMT -7)   

Rickard,

TAKSAMEKA!   

Thanks for your attitude!  It will carry you farther than Tiger Wood's driver....  (I'll skip the "What's your handicap?"  attempt at humor for now.... :-) .)

Please let discomfort and common sense be your guide.  Just walking the course and swinging in your comfort range will help speed recovery, a lot.  However, pushing too much is never good.  Concentrating on your putting game might be smart. 

I work (stocking fresh produce since the beginnning of week 5) and still feel what I refer to as "the stumps" (internal stitching) as I increase my physical activity each day.
I'm in week 14 and I feel stronger every day.  I still let the "kids" do some of the heavy lifting I use to enjoy......
 
Teusen Tok!
 
CCedar
~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*
2 Years of PSA between 4 and 5.5
Biopsy 23DEC06 
Only 5 percent cancer in one of 8 samples.
Gleeson 3+3=6
Radical Prostatectomy 16FEB07 at age 54.
1+" tumor - touching inside edge of gland.
Confined:)
***************
Texas Hill Country
FRESH Produce Department Manager
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