What are the chances of PC recurrance if the margins are clear?

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AEG
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   Posted 5/21/2007 8:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Everyone,
 
Does anyone here know what are the chances of PC recurrance if the margins are clear?
 
Thank you.
 
AEG
 

StrictlyInc
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   Posted 5/21/2007 10:03 PM (GMT -7)   
http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/10088.cfm

Someone here provided this link before. Might help. My urologist felt the Sloan Kettering numbers are a bit optimistic.
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Prostate cancer diagnosed:  May 15, 2006 (age 40)
Gleason score:  3+3=6
daVinci radical prostatectomy:  July 25, 2006
size of tumor:  approx 1.1 inches
post-surgery Gleason score:  3+4=7; negative margins from surgery
number of pads/day at 3 months after surgery:  3 to 5
number of pads/day at 4 months after surgery:  1 to 2
number of pads/day at 6 months after surgery:  0 to 1
1st post-surgery PSA:  0 (Nov 2006)
2nd post-surgery PSA:  0 (Feb 2007)
ongoing post-surgery treatment:  Cialis every other day, Viagra "on-demand", ErecAid pump daily Cialis every other day, ErecAid pump twice daily (when I can manage it)
 


Swimom
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   Posted 5/21/2007 10:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Try this....

www.cancer.prostate-help.org/download/jhnomo.pdf

swim

AEG
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   Posted 5/22/2007 10:52 AM (GMT -7)   
Thank you for your responses. I found an article with a calculator that seems to be inconsistent with the about mentioned calculators. Perhaps I'm misreading something which is very possible.

The site is: http://www.aafp.org/afp/20051215/poc.html. If the article doesn't come up, enter "prostate recurrence" into the search field. Please let me know what you think. Thanks.

AEG

AEG
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   Posted 5/22/2007 10:55 AM (GMT -7)   
Also, is there anything that can be done to decrease the chances of PC from reoccuring? Please let me know what your thoughts are about the subject matter. Thank you.

AEG

Swimom
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   Posted 5/22/2007 12:09 PM (GMT -7)   
AEG,

Most of the calculators are comprised of all patients with a wide gaps in pathology, presentation and so on. Most are pretty conservative I think also. about the best one I have found is the charts from the JH and company study I refer to above. The study does in fact, use the chart I saw in your aafp.org site. along with other gathered data from multiple cancer centers arond the country over a long period of time. Its a great article but takes a few slow reads to comprehend clearly.

If you're looking for another place to gather abstract (or purchasable articles) info, you can go to Entrez PubMed, go to urology then to PCa. Be careful....there are thousands of studies abstracted. Sometimes it's okay to just let life happen too so don't stress yourself too much!

As for preventative. Prayer, excersise and a healthy, balanced diet are your best prevention measures. Keeping the belly fat off does more than reduce our pant size...it prevents many common illness, including those that can be affected by too much estrodiol over long periods...like PCa. Life Extension has many, many great evidence based studies on supplements and such. You might actually enjoy the site....."enjoy" being the key word here :>) Look for something called Modified Citrus Pectin. It may be something you'll find interesting. Indole Carbinole 3/DIM is popular among naturalpaths also...both of which our homeopath Physician suggested for my DH. Happy reading and above all.....relax a little :>)

Swim

Swimom
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   Posted 5/22/2007 1:31 PM (GMT -7)   
:>)

Well, women don't get PCa but we do get BCa. High estradiol plays some role in both.
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