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Generic Viagra & Cialis from ADC as potent as the real stuff?

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StrictlyInc
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Posted 6/3/2007 11:37 AM (GMT -8)
I have finally broken down and bought a batch of Sildenafil and Tadalafil from alldaychemist.com.

I spoke with my pharmacist, and she said there is a good chance that the stuff purchased there is not as potent as the real thing. I know a few people here have mentioned they shop at alldaychemist.com. Has anyone experienced that the drugs from there are not as good as the real thing, or any other negative experiences?

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Swimom
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Posted 6/3/2007 12:22 PM (GMT -8)
Never had a single problem in probably 160 doses Raheeb. On the 3rd order now and find no difference between the pharmacy brand here and the ones I've gotten elsewhere.

Paul
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B&B's World
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Posted 6/3/2007 5:39 PM (GMT -8)
We ordered a boatload of India's Viagra "Manly" from AllDayChemist. On the package it says it is "Sildenafil Citrate as substitute for Sildenafil" According to B, of the 10 times he took it, he only once felt the flushing and minor dizziness he usually feels with Viagra. Because of this, he doesn't think it is equivalent and is only using it as a back-up to the Viagra. On another note, it feels like a crime against PCa's that insurance will not cover Viagra. $11 per pill! It's shameful. Becky
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pasayten
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Posted 6/3/2007 10:27 PM (GMT -8)
Hello All!   I have also been looking into the generic market substitutes and I thought I would pass along the info I have come up with so far.   Note that this info may be incomplete and is only from info I have found on the web and accuracy has not been verified .   Also, I am not making any recommendations for anybody!   I am just passing this along as I found it an interesting subject….     I have just looked at four Pharmas for which AllDayChemist sold their pills…   ADC has a fairly good website with details and manufactures that was easy to follow.   This is not a recommendation for AllDayChemist either. There are also a few other companies and equivalent websites,   but I feel it would be redundant and I was getting tired. J   The generic “Viagra” pills at the 100mg strength sell for $0.54 -> $2.00 each from ADC.  As we know, Real Pfitzer 100mg Viagra rins around $11.00 per tablet.  100mg tablets can be cut in half for a 50mg dose which would cost the per dose in half.   As you can see, Cipla and Ranbaxy are two very large phamas internationally, and both also have FDA approvals for the manufactiring of some drugs to the US already.   Adjanta is a smaller company of 700 employees and then followed by Cooper for which I could not find any financials, but they say they employ about 300.   NO   generic “Viagra”   (Sildenafil Citrate) drugs are US FDA approved for sale in the US .   They may or are approved for sales in other countries.   Similar situations exist for generic “Cialis” (Tadalafil) which are also manufactured by the same companies..     Cipla Pharma   ( India ) http://www.cipla.com/index.htm   Annual Sales 3667 rupees/crores = 36,670,000,000 rupees = approx   $900 million USD   http://www.cipla.com/globalpresence/globalpresence.htm   Exports for the financial year ended March 31, 2006 amounted to more than Rs. 15,000 million.  Cipla exports raw materials, intermediates, prescript ion drugs, OTC products and veterinary products. Cipla also offers technology for products and processes. Technical know-how/fees received during the year 2005-06 amounted to Rs.4156 million. Cipla's manufacturing facilities have been approved by the following regulatory authorities:   Food and Drug Administration (FDA), USA Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA), UK Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA), Australia Medicines Control Council (MCC), South Africa National Institute of Pharmacy (NIP), Hungary Pharamaceutical Inspection Convention (PIC), Germany World Health Organisation (WHO) Department of Health, Canada State Institute for the Control of Drugs, Slovak Republic ANVISA, Brazil       Makers of Silagra 100   (and other sizes) Each film-coated tablet contains Sildenafil Citrate equivalent to Sildenafil 100 mg   AllDayChemist: http://www.alldaychemist.com/singleproductdetail/994/1/21/1.html Silagra 100 mg (Cipla)    64 tablets      $128.00    ($2.00 per tablet)   ADC Note : Brand 'Suhagra' also made by Cipla may be substituted (My note: Suhagra is made by a Cipla licensed subsidery…   Okasa Cipla)       Ranbaxy Pharma   ( India )   http://www.ranbaxy.com/   Annual Sales (year ending Aug 2006) 60,652 million rupees =   approx 1.5 Billion USD 86 Million USD of legitimate US sales for the last quarter (3 months)   Corporate Profile    us/about us.aspx"> http://www.ranbaxy.com/about us/about us.aspx   Ranbaxy Laboratories Limited, headquartered in India , is an integrated, research based, international pharmaceutical company, producing a wide range of quality, affordable generic medicines, trusted by healthcare professionals and patients across geographies. The Company is ranked amongst the top ten global generic companies and has a presence in 23 of the top 25 pharma markets of the world. The Company with a global footprint in 49 countries, worldclass manufacturing facilities in 11 and a diverse product portfolio, is rapidly moving towards global leadership, riding on its success in the world’s emerging and developed markets.   And they also now have a presence in the USA : http://www.ranbaxyusa.com/   Makers of Caverta (Sildenafil Citrate)   AllDayChemist: http://www.alldaychemist.com/singleproductdetail/1069/1/21/1.html Caverta 100 mg (Ranbaxy)      64 tablets     $128.00    ($2.00 per tablet)       Cooper Pharma   ( India ) http://www.cooperpharma.com/   Could not find sales financials for Cooper Pharma.   A portion of their profile from their web pages is as follows: http://www.cooperpharma.com/profile.htm   “COOPER TODAY The growth rate of COOPER to day is 30%. We employ 200 direct workman and about 100 staff, pharmacists and executives. Our manufacturing facilities are strategically located in Delhi and Sikandrabad in the state of Uttar Pradesh. 60% or our business comes from exports. All major inspecting authorities such a Drug Control Department, India and Director General of Health Services, India approve our manufacturing facilities. For quality control and development of products, we have in house, well-equipped laboratory duly approved by the aforesaid inspecting authorities.”   Makers of Manly (Sildenafil Citrate)   AllDayChemist: http://www.alldaychemist.com/singleproductdetail/1069/1/21/1.html Sildenafil Citrate 100 mg*          60 plus 60 tablets bonus     $64.20     ($0.54 per tablet) * Shipping as dark pink       Adjanta Pharma ( India ) http://www.ajantapharma.com/   Annual Sales thru 2007 24717 Rs. Lacs = 2,471,700,000 rupees = approx   $60 million   USD   From some of their web pages… about Us "Ajanta was incorporated in 1973 and has since moved up the value chain from being a small manufacturer to a vibrant marketing and research-oriented company. Ajanta is now one of the leading pharmaceutical companies from India" India Operations "Our marketing field force consists of more than 700 people reaching out to 75,000 doctors and 125,000 pharmacies. To service the three teams, we have a developed excellent logistics and IT infrastructure. All the warehouses, stockists and distribution agents are connected online through ERP system. This ensures efficient stock monitoring, allowing us to be responsive to customer needs”   Makers of Kamagra (Sildenafil Citrate)   AllDayChemist: http://www.alldaychemist.com/menhealthdrug/Kamagra.html Kamagra 100 mg (Adjanta)      64 tablets     $128.00    ($2.00 per tablet) Kamagra Soft Tablets ( Ajanta ) 64 tablets     $96.00       ($1.50 per tablet)   Summing it up... That’s a lot of info to digest, but the more information anybody has, the the better decisions they can make...    Use you own due care and diligence with any of this information...   And if you find out more info, pass it along!   Take care Folks and God Bless!   
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pasayten
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Posted 6/3/2007 11:25 PM (GMT -8)
P.S. to the above post... I actually have the above in a MS Word file which I can email if you would like... I will also add your info to it if pertinent.

Ray
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tadaKev
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Posted 3/28/2008 10:02 AM (GMT -8)
so what is the difference between these cialis from alldaychemist?
prices way different, different pharmas and why is the week end pill so cheap?

The Week-end Pill (Tadalafil)
Tadalafil 20 mg *
* Double Pills Offer $0.75
Other Brands Available:
Forzest 20 mg (Ranbaxy) $2.08
Megalis 10mg $1.30
Tadacip 20 mg (Cipla) $2.08
Tadalis (Ajanta) $2.29
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DanmanBob
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Posted 3/28/2008 11:11 AM (GMT -8)

MY PCP told me that drug companies make a fortune on some meds.  Said it is common for drugs that cost a few pennies to produce to be sold for $10 or more per pill....Viagra being a prime, but not isolated, example.

Several on here have used both and report very good results, which is why I ordered 240 generic Viagra pills from alldaychemist just a few days ago.

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biker90
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Posted 3/28/2008 12:20 PM (GMT -8)
I have used both Viagra and Levitra substitutes from AllDayChemist and they work as well as or better than the domestice, high priced pills...

Jim
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tadaKev
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Posted 3/28/2008 12:35 PM (GMT -8)
Thank you all. ADC sells cialis pills which are all generic and my question remains why some of the generic manufacturers charge 2-3x more than others? (I'm not talking in comparison with a brand name manufacturer where the difference is 10 fold or more). Is megalis/tadalis/tadacip (from Ranbaxxy and Cipla) any superior to $0.75 tadalafil week-end pill? Thank you.
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Paul1959
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Posted 3/28/2008 1:56 PM (GMT -8)
I finally got insurance approval for 100mg Viagre - 7 pills in 21 days! I took one - it performed EXACTLY the same as ADC 100mg Manly. i had my doubts about the ADC product as well since my side affects seemed so much less than my 50mg Viagra. I asked this question here a while ago...but it took this side by side comparison shopping to see that, for me, they seemed to be the same.
Paul
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kw
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Posted 3/28/2008 6:40 PM (GMT -8)
They can keep their High Dollar Drugs. I'll buy mine from ADC as long as I can.
KW
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puget
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Posted 3/28/2008 8:38 PM (GMT -8)
I am on my second full order from ADC for the Ranbaxy equivalent of Viagra. I actually think it's better. I get about the same amount of nose stuffiness and flushing, but the effects seems at least as strong and last much longer. Where the benefits of Viagra are pretty much gone after 4-5 hours for me, the ADC version works up to 12-14 hours. Quite a nice extra benefit in addition to the price break!
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Posted 1/7/2009 11:45 AM (GMT -8)
Tadakey...Some of the suppliers charge more for generics simply because they can. And several of the websites for, say, generic ED drugs are actually linked to the same company. I stumbled across ADC's site purely by accident (I think by going deep into a Google search), and though their shipping cost is a bit steep, their much-lower prices for meds more than make up for that. The big companies may have a lock on the market here in the US (and, of course, their billions can fund all kinds of propaganda about the riskiness of certain overseas pharmaceuticals), but it's great to know that competition still thrives and those of us who need to do so can get our meds at a price that isn't extortionate.
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Posted 1/7/2009 6:55 PM (GMT -8)
I ordered from ADC a while back and got my 60- 100 Mg "Manly" blue pills for $58 including shipping. Prior to ordering this, I had been given a good many professional samples by my uro. I've tried all of the 3 major brands.
Viagra worked the best for me, so I ordered the same from ADC.

I usually split them in half for maintenance purposes and take a 50 Mg half about 3x/week. I will also take one of the whole 100 Mg pills when the occasion arises, if you know what I mean.

So far, I've found no difference in the way the drug performs. I get the same side effects, stuffiness, flushing, blue tinges with both generic and the Pfizer equivalent. It's a no brainer for me. Less than a dollar a pill....X2 if you cut them in half.

My only real complaint is the time it takes to ship from the time of the order. Plus the shipping cost was around $30 if I remember right. Still, with careful planning I won't run out, and it still comes out to about $1/pill even with shipping.

I will see my uro Monday. I wonder what he'll say about getting them from India?

Paul

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John Bonneville
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Posted 1/7/2009 8:30 PM (GMT -8)
I also give AllDayChemist the thumbs up as well. The Manly generic Viagra is, in my view, every bit the equal of the Phizer product. Phizer sell Viagra here in OZ for about $18 per 100mgm tablet. The ADC Manly product is delivered to my door for $1 per 100mgm tablet. You don't need to be a mathematician to work out where the better value is. I would also like to say, that the service I received from ADC was excellent.
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Posted 1/8/2009 5:05 AM (GMT -8)
We've ordered all 3 ED drugs from ADC and found they all worked just as well as the ones we got locally. Jeff is now only taking Levitra (which I can't remember the generic name) because he found that works the best. We were also hesitant about buying them from overseas, but figured if so many people here found good results, we'd give it a try. we'll keep doing it until the US companies drop their prices dramatically.
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Posted 1/8/2009 3:21 PM (GMT -8)

Greetings, everyone.  My doc gave me samples of multiple strengths of both Cialis and Levitra.  Both seemed to work well regardless of the strength.  Before I could even go to the pharmacy, I read about ADC on this website and decided to order.  I did order the Levitra generic (as I understand it the Cialis can't be shipped to the USA because of the patent still being active in the USA).  They shipped promptly and I received my order in about 10 days.  I believe I ordered 60 pills and the bill including shipping was about $90 or about $1.50 per pill vs the $11 or $12 the pharmacy indicated they would charge. 

I take a pill at night before I go to bed 2 times a week.  I have taken it during the day when I first was learning the most effective treatment and I did get the stuffy nose and face flushing although it wasn't too bad. Now that I take it at bedtime I never even realize the side effects that I am experiencing!  It seems to work fine - I still had some samples my doc had given me of the name brands and I used them interchangably and could never tell any difference.  I did mention to my doc what I had done and he said he understood that some drugs from overseas were not as effective and that doses were lower (but that wasn't specifically for ED drugs but in general drugs ordered from overseas).  I gave him the info and he said if it works - use it. 

David

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Posted 3/13/2009 8:13 AM (GMT -8)
I just have a single order from alldaychemist. Other than it being one sixteenth the price I didn't notice any difference.
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B&B's World said...
We ordered a boatload of India's Viagra "Manly" from AllDayChemist. On the package it says it is "Sildenafil Citrate as substitute for Sildenafil" According to B, of the 10 times he took it, he only once felt the flushing and minor dizziness he usually feels with Viagra. Because of this, he doesn't think it is equivalent and is only using it as a back-up to the Viagra.

On another note, it feels like a crime against PCa's that insurance will not cover Viagra. $11 per pill! It's shameful.

Becky


You got a bargain I had a 3 pill script filled. It was $48
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Posted 3/18/2009 11:35 AM (GMT -8)
I have been trying to contact alldaychemist for over a wek now by email and phone.No answer or reply.Is there a secret to contacting them?

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Posted 3/19/2009 11:24 AM (GMT -8)

kflickster said...
I have been trying to contact alldaychemist for over a wek now by email and phone.No answer or reply.Is there a secret to contacting them?

They fell off the earth about 2-3 weeks ago, starting to have problems with credit cards then asking people for banking details and account numbers, not good?

John

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Posted 3/19/2009 12:19 PM (GMT -8)
I did get an email reply from them a day ago from a reply I sent a week ago.

I have not re-checked the tracking number they gave me in the USPS system for a week but will do so tonite and see if it shows up in the delivery pipeline at all.

laters,

jim
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Posted 3/20/2009 4:54 AM (GMT -8)
I got an email finally Wed night.I have never dealt with them and I was wondering if these delays are normal?Also Jinstars I hope you can keep posting if you get your product.Im going to wait and see what happens with other orders.Thanks.............................Kevin

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Posted 3/20/2009 4:57 AM (GMT -8)
I also wanted to tell you Jimstar I got some medicine from another Canadian company that used US Postal service.The tracking didnt show up until it went to US customs.

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