Osbon Pump Hurts; No Feeling; Is this Normal?

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Gene214
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Date Joined Mar 2007
Total Posts : 422
   Posted 7/16/2007 2:19 PM (GMT -7)   
My new urologist wanted me to try the pump, so I purchased one.  I've used it twice, the first time, it didn't stay up, but the second time it did (by trimming hair), but the ring was very, very uncomfortable and when intercourse took place, I felt very, very little pleasure.  Is this normal?  I mean is it normal for the ring to be very uncomfortable, for the penis to turn purple, and for there to be almost no feeling of pleasure? 
 
Thanks for any information & encouragement.
 
Gene
Age: 63
First biopsy 07/05;
Diagnosed: "Suspicious looking cells". Dr. says wait and watch.
Second biopsy: 12/27/06
Diagnosed cancer: 01/24/07
Gleason Grade: 3+3=6
Radical Open Nerve-sparing Prostatetomy: 02-14-07
Cancer confined to prostate
Pathology Stage of cancer: T2c
First Post-Op PSA on 04-18-07: 0.011
Bleeding problem at 6 weeks post surgery...No resolution despite several trips to surgeon, antibiotic treatment.
05/31/07: Cystoscope reveals "stone", due to "Stricture" (narrowing of uretha at prostate removal site).
06/12/07: Procedure to remove stone & dilate uretha at stricture: Successful procedure, but is most likely a temporary fix, and incontinence continues.
 
 
 


Cedar Chopper
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Date Joined Mar 2007
Total Posts : 432
   Posted 7/17/2007 3:05 AM (GMT -7)   
Good Morning Gene,
 
Five months have gone by fast!  I hope the new job is going well and that you like your new physician.  I also hope your physician is prescribing bio-feedback therapy for your incontinence battle.  It worked for me.
 
As to your question concerning the pump, I offer a couple of thoughts from both experience and what the company that sold me a pump told me:
 
*  You just started using the pump after five months and the muscle tissues have atropied somewhat. My experience after not starting the pump for 3 months after surgery (insurance took forever to refuse.....) suggests you start off slow.
 
*I would recommend that you use the pump without sex for awhile, inflating the penis for ten seconds, then deflating it for ten seconds for 3 or four minutes  - once or twice a day.  Do this without the ring until you can maintain an erection in the pump without discomfort.   Your muscles need exercise to rebuild. 
 
*Then move on to the ring.  I would then procede with manually producing orgasms with the ring on until you can do this regularly without discomfort - before moving on to actual penetration.  Your nerves & muscles will regenerate.  It will take time.
 
* Concerning incontinence and the pump: I began using the pump when I was still fighting incontinence.  I kept a small piece of a pad near the top of the pump to catch any drips. Liquid can cause problems with the gaskets in the pump.
 
 
As you know, I'm also beginning month 6.  At work, I continue to get physically stronger every day.  Even with a lot of lifting, I have been padless for just over a month now.  E.D. is my challenge now.  One very big advantage of being a bachelor is no pressure to perform.  Still, I try to be aggressive in this therapy and use the pump and (alldaychemistdotcom) seldenifil 3 or four times a week to encourage tissue and nerve regeneration. 
I think someone here best described my progress so far: a "soft-on." eyes
 
I offer a little story about marriage & post-prostatectomy erectile disfunction:
I have a friend that plays the double bass (the stand-up bass) in an orchestra. 
One day, he lost his bow and so now he just strums the bass in a New Orleans Jazz Ensemble.  His bass doesn't mind so much.  The music is still great, it just likes the attention and it is glad the musician didn't get lost, too.... cool
 
Your Friend,
CCedar
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Biopsy 23DEC06 
Only 5 percent cancer in one of 8 samples.
Gleeson 3+3=6
Radical Prostatectomy 16FEB07 at age 54.
1+" tumor - touching inside edge of gland.
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Gene214
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Date Joined Mar 2007
Total Posts : 422
   Posted 7/17/2007 1:21 PM (GMT -7)   

Thanks Cedar.  Appreciate your comments.  I seem to have a drought of advice from the pros but can always count on you.  Your advice sounds sound.  That band scares me badly and I may just forget it altogether and do the pump as you sugested.

I had your email address at one time, but lost it in the move and I have a different one, too, but I don't want to communicate too much on this open forum, but I don't know how to get back in touch with you either. 

Anyway, I am impressed with my new urologist.  At the very least, he does not mind talking and explaining.  At the most he gave some verfy sound advice post surgery.  I am anxious about my incontinence, but have adjusted somewhat to it, even though I see no improvement.  My doctor says it may just one day stop almost suddenly.  I certainly hope so.  Congratulations you you becoming dry.  I am almost jealous, since we are just two days apart post surgery, but you are quite a bit younger than I.  So it will just take me a little longer...but it will happen... surely!

Again, thanks much.

Gene


Age: 63
First biopsy 07/05;
Diagnosed: "Suspicious looking cells". Dr. says wait and watch.
Second biopsy: 12/27/06
Diagnosed cancer: 01/24/07
Gleason Grade: 3+3=6
Radical Open Nerve-sparing Prostatetomy: 02-14-07
Cancer confined to prostate
Pathology Stage of cancer: T2c
First Post-Op PSA on 04-18-07: 0.011
Bleeding problem at 6 weeks post surgery...No resolution despite several trips to surgeon, antibiotic treatment.
05/31/07: Cystoscope reveals "stone", due to "Stricture" (narrowing of uretha at prostate removal site).
06/12/07: Procedure to remove stone & dilate uretha at stricture: Successful procedure, but is most likely a temporary fix, and incontinence continues.
 
 
 


Mike A
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Date Joined Feb 2007
Total Posts : 213
   Posted 7/20/2007 5:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Gene,
My experience was very much like yours. I found that I was trying to rush things along too much. Like Cedar said, use the pump without the rings and take it slow. Longer pauses between pumps makes it more comfortable. Just an FYI. Osbon has a new ring substitute, The SurErec.
According to the website:"The SurErec is an ideal alternative for.... users who find it uncomfortable to slip the ring off the cylinder and onto the penis, the SurErec also eliminates the transfer process. " I don't have any experience with this, but it sounds interesting. The 30 bucks it costs might be worth it not to hear that "SNAP" as the ring comes off the cylinder. Maybe somebody on the site has used the SurErec, and can advise us.
Best,
Mike
June 2005 - Age 53 PSA 4.8 at regular physical
October 2005 - After several rounds of anti-biotics, PSA 5.2 at Urlogist
November 2005 - Biopsy negative
July 2006 - PSA 5.9 at regular Physical
October 2006 - After several more rounds of anti-biotics PSA 8.1
November 2006 - Second biopsy - Positive
December 2006 - Gleason (3+4=7), Tumor T1c, CT Scan and Bone Scan Negative
January 2, 2007 Robotic Prostatectomy, University of Rochester Medical Center - Tumor confined but larger than thought, only one nerve able to be spared. Margins clear.
February 2007 - Three to four pads a day, no erection with viagara.
March 2007 - Down to two pads a day, had first intercourse with Erecaid pump and bands, otherwise still flat tire.
April 2007 - First Post-Surgical PSA 0.02 and a great relief! Down to one pad a day. Still unable to achive erection without pump.
May, 2007 - Still one pad a day, even try a smaller pad on occasion. Slight improvement on the ED.
July, 2007 - Six Month Post-op: PSA 0.04 still Non-Detectable. One small pad/day for a few drops only! No change in ED.
"If patience is a virtue, I feel like the most virtuous guy on the planet!"


56pontiac
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Date Joined Sep 2006
Total Posts : 230
   Posted 7/21/2007 7:30 AM (GMT -7)   

I don't know about the Osbon pump. I do know Cedar Chopper is right about using the pump to inflate and deflate like an excercise really helps. I have been using my pump for over six months with real good results. When I went researching pumps and read reviews and looked at the cost of pumps I ended up with the Vacurect it is FDA approved and under $200.00. I bought it because they were the only ones that said if you don't like it send it back in thirty days for a complete money back refund. I bought the Vacurect and have been very satisfied it is extremely user friendly you don't need a seperate suitcase to travel with it. There is no "ring snap" not sure what it is but it sounds bad. It can be put on and pumped up and deflated while you are showering, shaving, or brushing your teeth for excercise and muscle strength. Also, as for the feeling of intercourse with the pump it is different and gets better and better with each time. However I have discovered if you use the right amount of lubricant on your self and your wife it can be really really good. My orgasm is longer and more intense than before surgery and you can recover and go again if you want. I like not having the mess of ejaculation (nobody is gonna use a black light on a motel bedspread and prove I was ever there) That was my attempt at humor. You gotta have a sense of humor with this thang or it will drive you crazy. This is a universal truth, " every seed of adversity carries forth a greater or equivalent benefit." I have experienced many blessings since I got this dang disease that I would not have experienced if it had never happened. I would be glad to share some of them with you if you like. Actually I am going to start a new thread on the subject of positive things that have happened to you since you got cancer. 58 diagnosed 8/12/06 psa 4.3 Biopsy 5 of 12 cancer Gleason 6 Surgery 10/12/06 Gleason changed to 7 stage T1 confined to prostate post surgery three PSA readings 0.02

 

 

Gene214
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Date Joined Mar 2007
Total Posts : 422
   Posted 7/21/2007 6:41 PM (GMT -7)   
56pontiac, Chopper & Mike,
 
Thanks for the encouragement and especially for that thread on the positive things that have happened since pc.  I suppose the greatest blessing is having confirmed (I knew it already) that my wife of many, many years loves me regardless.  The next one is being able to post here on this forum and having some of the questions I asked answered by you and others.
 
That "ring snap" happens at the moment you slide that little itsy-bitsy bitty ring off the pump onto one's pumped-up thingy.  It hurts.
 
Gene


Age: 63
First biopsy 07/05;
Diagnosed: "Suspicious looking cells". Dr. says wait and watch.
Second biopsy: 12/27/06
Diagnosed cancer: 01/24/07
Gleason Grade: 3+3=6
Radical Open Nerve-sparing Prostatetomy: 02-14-07
Cancer confined to prostate
Pathology Stage of cancer: T2c
First Post-Op PSA on 04-18-07: 0.011
Bleeding problem at 6 weeks post surgery...No resolution despite several trips to surgeon, antibiotic treatment.
05/31/07: Cystoscope reveals "stone", due to "Stricture" (narrowing of uretha at prostate removal site).
06/12/07: Procedure to remove stone & dilate uretha at stricture: Successful procedure, but is most likely a temporary fix, and incontinence continues.
 
 
 

Post Edited (Gene6163) : 7/21/2007 10:02:44 PM (GMT-6)


bluebird
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Date Joined May 2006
Total Posts : 2542
   Posted 7/21/2007 7:30 PM (GMT -7)   

Hey ~ Gene,

Click on bluebird and send me an e-mail.  I have permission from CCedar to send his e-mail address to you....    Take care, Lee

 


El Tigre
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Date Joined May 2007
Total Posts : 58
   Posted 7/21/2007 10:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Gene, Use the pump for exercise. Neither my wife nor I liked the pump. It did work well for keeping the tissues healthy. I use injections now. We are both very happy with the results.
I sure do wish I had found this site pre-surgery!! RRP 10/25/05 I don't remember all the scores. Have had clean checks ever since. Never had to use the pads!!

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