what is chances of recurring pc after radiation

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lakeman
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   Posted 7/21/2007 8:09 AM (GMT -7)   
What is chances I will have prostate cancer after
42 treatments of radiation treatment?  In feb 07
i was diagnosed with pc and then in mar 07 i was
diagnosed with melanoma skin cancer on my back.
I finished radiation last month on pc and surgery
on melanoma in mar 07.   On July 18 had my first
psa after radiation and waiting on results.  My
first pathology was 5 specimens with 3 with
full length adenocarcinoma and psa level of 7.6.
I will go back to radiation onclolgy  on july 30
to see how radiation did.  What if it didn't work
what would be next step.
 
Thanks for comments and suggestions.
 
 

Tony Crispino
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   Posted 7/21/2007 5:07 PM (GMT -7)   
The chances are depending of the actual stage of the disease.  If you do recur, you will likely be directed to hormone treatment. But you should make an effort to see if surgery is is still an option. It could be possible that the radiation did not get all the the cancer and it still had not metastised. While that is unlikely it would still be worth the effort to try to exemine it before submitting to hormone treatments. Good luck and stay close at this site.

Tony

Post Edited (TC-LasVegas) : 7/21/2007 6:43:50 PM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 7/21/2007 5:16 PM (GMT -7)   

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   Posted 7/21/2007 5:28 PM (GMT -7)   

  :-)   Hi ~ Lakeman,

 

Knowledge is so important in understanding what our options are at every step we take in this journey with prostate cancer.  Each step counts.  There will be good advise given here from members who have traveled the path you are on.  Excellent resources with heartfelt truth and understanding. 

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lakeman
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   Posted 7/22/2007 9:05 AM (GMT -7)   
I would like your for help and I am already on
hormone treatment every 4 months. 
But i done research and it says hormone treatment
might not work.  I am still looking at surgery,
because had prostate cancer and later (about 3
years developed lung and brain cancer which
took his life.  I will keep you posted during the
next weeks the outcome of the treatments.
 
I wish I would had a 2nd opinion in the first place
and had the surgery. 
 
Thanks for your comments and I will keep everyone
in my prayers.
 
Bill

jetguy
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   Posted 7/22/2007 3:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Dear Bill, I can't imagine why you wish you had the surgery, but it's all personal wishes. Radiation today is a very effective treatment for prostate cancer. Hang in there and try not to worry too much.

Regards,

Bill
Gleason 3+3=6, T1c, one core in twelve, another pre-cancerous.
62 years old and good health.  Married 37 years.  To same woman!
Began IGRT January 23, 2007. 


pcdave
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   Posted 7/22/2007 8:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Dear Bill

I am a little confused by your two postings. I think you are saying that you had radiation treatment and are also on hormone treatment every 4 months. You indicate that someone had died of prostate cancer--the way it is worded it almost sounds like you were referring to yourself.

What kind of radiation treatment did you have? You did not indicate your Gleason scores resulting from the your biopsy or your stage of prostate cancer before treatment. You seem to indicate that your biopsy was only 5 cores which doesn't make sense as that is too few to accurately project your stage of cancer. What is your age?

Do not look back at what you did or didn't do. Both surgery and radiation can often achieve the same results. With radiation, a margin of tissue beyond your prostate usually receives radiation treatment which may be more effective than surgery. With surgery, there is no guarantee that the surgeon will get all of any cancer that has spread to the margins beyond the prostate (which is the reason why surgery patients sometimes have recurring prostate cancer, which is often treated with radiation).

Hormone treatment does not eradicate prostate cancer--it just slows its growth down for a period of time and lowers the PSA readings.

With radiation treatment, it can take up to 24 months before the PSA will reach its lowest point (i.e., the cancer cells die off slowly after radiation treatment). The first PSA test after 3 months will hopefully be lower that your PSA before treatment. Don't worry about your first PSA test unless it is greater than you pre-treatment PSA which is unlikely. On occassion, there is something called PSA bounce which means a higher PSA reading that the one before, sometime after treatment. In a great majority of cases where this happens, your PSA will eventually start to go down again. The prostate cancer experts say this is not something to get alarmed about unless your subsequent PSA readings continue to go up.

Try to relax and not let this consume you. Unless you haven't told us some vitial information, it is too early for you to be thinking or worrying about recurring prostate cancer.

As you will see by my footnote, I have recently finished proton radiation treatment and am awaiting my 3-month PSA results. I am not thinking about recurring prostate cancer at this time. I feel very positive about the future. If I have a setback at some point, I will deal with it at that time. In the meantime, I try to stay educated about the most recent advances in the treatment of prostate cancer, especially for those who may have to deal with recurring prostate cancer in the future. Best of luck to you! Peace!

Dave
68, 29-core biopsy 9/27/06, PSA 7.1, Stage T1c, Gleason 7 (3+4) [less than 20% in one area],  Gleason 6 [less than 5% in two other areas], negative DRE, bone scan and Endorectal MRI. Completed 39 Proton radiation treatments 2/22/07-4/18/07.
First PSA test to be taken 7/07.

Post Edited (pcdave) : 7/22/2007 9:11:38 PM (GMT-6)


lakeman
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   Posted 7/24/2007 8:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Dear Dave:

My father was the one who die with brain cancer in 1988.

I had proton radiation. My first psa since treatment came
back as -.01.
61- psa before treatment 7.6 gleason 3+4=7

bill

spinbiscuit
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   Posted 7/24/2007 10:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello bill,

Don't drive yourself to distraction with the "What Ifs". Just keep focusing all you energy on getting well, and let the radiation theropy work. ALL the different treatments; surgery, radiation, and hormone have the same high degree of success. Please think good thoughts because you will beat this PCa, and we'll be here to cheer you on.

Glen
Diagnosed at age 60
PSA went from 2.2 to 3.8 in 14 months
2 of 14 cores positive at 10%
Gleason 6(3+3), negative DRE, neg. boundaries
DaVinci surgery on 02/23/06
 


KenW
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   Posted 7/30/2007 2:06 PM (GMT -7)   

Lakeman,

Your PSA is great, especially for the 1st one.

I'm post Proton about 1 year and 8 months. My psa is now at 2.19. It dropped by 50% the first 4 months and 50% again At 8 months. That was what was predicted by the doctors at Loma Linda. It took a slight jump up but I expect it to head down again. Stay Positive.

KenW

lakeman said...
Dear Dave:

My father was the one who die with brain cancer in 1988.

I had proton radiation. My first psa since treatment came
back as -.01.
61- psa before treatment 7.6 gleason 3+4=7

bill

Diagnosed with a Gleason 4X3. Second opinion at Stanford came back as 3X4, 1 out of 7 samples, Left Side. DRE showed Normal. Before Biopsy Psa gradually crept to 10. Dropped to 6.4 with Alt. suppliments.
Proton Beam Therapy at Loma Linda 11-06. 1st PSA 4 Months 3.4, PSA at 8 Mo. 1.7. - 1 Yr. PSA 1.8 ( Different Lab ) Awaiting 3rd PSA taken yesterday.


bluebird
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   Posted 7/30/2007 5:28 PM (GMT -7)   

  tongue    Yea !  ~   Bill,

1st    PSA…   !!!~~~>>>  Woo~Hoo  <<<~~~!!! Undetectable

 

Cause  for   celebration!!!!!  Definitely!!!     

What a wonderful day it is ~ each and every-day….   

Enjoy it to the fullest. 

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Hi ~ Bill,

 

Take some time to refresh your spirit…..  Let the healing continue and keep positive thoughts flowing. 

 

It’s good to know what the next steps would have to be…. but the What If’s…. can drag you way down…..  If the time comes where you have to make more decisions ~ you will move forward and do what you have to do. 

 

The time right now is to take One~Day~At~A~Time….

Stay close and know we care.  You are in our thoughts and prayers as we all continue to move forward…

In Friendship ~ Lee & Buddy


lakeman
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   Posted 7/31/2007 5:47 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello Lee,Buddy and Kenw,

Thank you guys for all your encouragement and thoughts and
prayers. I am feeling great and looking forward to becoming
cancer free from pc. With your encouraging words I have
guit worrying about the "what if's" and more about being the
pc and what ever comes my way.

Again thanks and I will keep you posted.

Bill
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