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hawkfan75
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   Posted 8/21/2007 8:01 PM (GMT -7)   
At a prostate cancer symposium last night at VM in Seattle, they discussed the benefits of Pomegranite juice and extract.  There will be another study happening soon.  When I've looked for the extract, I haven't found any recommendation for how much to take every day.  I know they mention 8 oz. of juice, but I'd rather take the extract.  Any other information here?
PSA 4.7 (up from 3.2 one year ago)
Biopsy November 8, 2006 1 of 10 cores positive 5% LEFT Side Gleason 3+3
Robotic surgery January 19, 2007
Post Surgery Pathology
     Stage T3a, Gleason 3+4, positive margins and
     capsular penetration RIGHT Side
Post Surgery PSA:  March 5:  0.01
5 month PSA, June 13, 2007:  0.08
Adjuvant therapy began June 26 with Zoladex injection
     Radiation to commence in late August
 


hawkfan75
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   Posted 8/21/2007 8:58 PM (GMT -7)   
The study with mice showed a better result with the extract.  Besides, I can't stand the juice, even with vodka.  (a joke....)  The internet and health food stores have various amounts.  I was just wondering if anyone had any recommendations.

PSA 4.7 (up from 3.2 one year ago)
Biopsy November 8, 2006 1 of 10 cores positive 5% LEFT Side Gleason 3+3
Robotic surgery January 19, 2007
Post Surgery Pathology
     Stage T3a, Gleason 3+4, positive margins and
     capsular penetration RIGHT Side
Post Surgery PSA:  March 5:  0.01
5 month PSA, June 13, 2007:  0.08
Adjuvant therapy began June 26 with Zoladex injection
     Radiation to commence in late August
 


IdahoSurvivor
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   Posted 8/21/2007 9:47 PM (GMT -7)   

I drink 8 oz of Pomegranate juice every day, just in case it helps anything.  I also eat one Brazil nut each day since they say a natural intake of selenium may help ward off additional cancer cells.  Most docs don't like selenium tablets... they perfer the natural way.

 

On my little blog (http://pca-info.blogspot.com), I have a section on "Diet and Prostate Cancer" that includes links to Pomegranate intake and information on other natural foods and supplements.  Perhaps those links have something on extract as well.

 

I also read recently that Pectin (from apples and other fruit) may aid in prostate cancer control (see below)
"Common Component of Fruits, Vegetables Kills Prostate Cancer Cells"
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070820120710.htm

Of course, I also suggest no one go out and overdo anything.  A lot of this stuff hasn’t been completely proven, so I just try to eat what my doctor told me should be a “heart healthy” diet.

All the best,

Idaho


Age: 54
PSA: 4.3
Biopsy: T1c, 3+3=6, 2 pos. samples in one side of prostate
Da Vinci 31 Jul 2007: saved nerve bundle on side of non-cancerous side
Final pathology: Confined to prostate, T2a, 3+3=6
Working to get back into good shape
Waiting to take that first post-op PSA

Tony Crispino
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   Posted 8/21/2007 10:24 PM (GMT -7)   
er,
I'm drinking the stuff even though it is like a laxitive to me. Extract ok but where. It's apparent that red wine and pomagranite are anti-cancer growth. But how much? I like the wine.

Tony
Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007
Post-Op Pathology was poor: Gleason 4+3=7, 4 positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
 
My PSA did drop out after surgery to undetectable.  It has not returned and I will continue HT until January '08.
 
My Life is supported very well by family and friends like you all.
 
STAY POSITIVE!


myman
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   Posted 8/22/2007 3:01 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Guys,

I make a pomegranate smoothie for Don - much easier way to get the juice down. Pom juice, soy protien powder, blueberries, strawberries, raspberries with banana and some yogurt. It took some experimenting but ws worth it...s'good!

Susan

aus
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   Posted 8/22/2007 5:15 AM (GMT -7)   

Have been drinking a small amount of juice, (1/4 glass a day) for three months.

It seems to be  good for urinary function, but dont know whether it's of any benefit for PC 


GreenAcres
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   Posted 8/22/2007 5:46 AM (GMT -7)   

Couldn't handle the pom, but husband is drinking grape juice. Some benefits there for something, surely.

In researching pom for a recent article, I found suggestions that it "may" have the same properties as grapefruit juice in blocking or interacting with some drugs, including cholesterol meds. Nothing proven as yet that I could verify.


AEG
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   Posted 8/22/2007 6:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Is pomegranate juice concentrate just as good as 100% pure pomegranate juice?

A.

sterd82
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   Posted 8/22/2007 6:42 AM (GMT -7)   

The POM juice people, who put out the UCLA study that linked 8 oz daily jucie to slowed psa doubling time in post surg/RT patients, seem to indicate that concentrated/extract is just as good:

 http://pomx.com/health_benefits/health_prostate.aspx

... although the original study was done with the regular juice....

I've found POM to be the only brand I like... (not a stockholder or employee of the POM organization!)

...for what its worth......


Sterd82
Age 47
Open Radical Prostatectomy 6/9/2006
Pathological Stage T3a, Positive Surgical Margin
Gleason 3+4
PSA rose to .24 in November of 2006
6 month hormone therapy initiated December 1. 2006
36 sessions of IMRT Ended Feb 1, 2007
PSA as of May 25, 2007 undetectable
Next PSA November, 2007


IdahoSurvivor
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   Posted 8/22/2007 8:32 AM (GMT -7)   
I have guessed that all 100% pomegranate will provide close to the same effect.  So, in the U.S., I buy 100% pomegranate juice at Costco for 1/2 the price of local supermarkets.
... and Susan, I like your idea of combining the juice in a fruit smoothie! yeah
 
Idaho
 

Age: 54
PSA: 4.3
Biopsy: T1c, 3+3=6, 2 pos. samples in one side of prostate
Da Vinci 31 Jul 2007: saved nerve bundle on side of non-cancerous side
Final pathology: Confined to prostate, T2a, 3+3=6
Working to get back into good shape
Waiting to take that first post-op PSA

myman
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   Posted 8/22/2007 9:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Idaho,

I get my juice at Costco also. The thing is you get so much out of a drink that's good for you. I just keep the fruit in the freezer (even cut up bananas) , add to the juice, powder & yogurt and make enough for two. A little trial & error but it's worth it...we need all the help we can get, right?

Enjoy!

IdahoSurvivor
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   Posted 8/22/2007 11:22 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Selmer,

We get the Langer's brand at our Costco.  It comes in 64 oz for between $6 and $8 from what I recall.  It is 100% juice, unlike another brand I bought at Fred Meyer with Pomegranate all over it.  :-)

Anyway, I remember telling my wife at the time it was 1/2 of the supermarket prices.   The supermarket changes the same price for the 32 oz bottle.

'Hope that helps!

Idaho


Age: 54
PSA: 4.3
Biopsy: T1c, 3+3=6, 2 pos. samples in one side of prostate
Da Vinci 31 Jul 2007: saved nerve bundle on side of non-cancerous side
Final pathology: Confined to prostate, T2a, 3+3=6
Working to get back into good shape
Waiting to take that first post-op PSA

AEG
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   Posted 8/22/2007 6:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi IdahoSurvivor,

I also buy the Langer's Pomegranite juice but my bottle says "100% pomegranite juice from concentrate". Is yours the same? Will it work?

A.

IdahoSurvivor
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   Posted 8/22/2007 7:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi AEG,
 
My bottle says the same.  The question about it working, I don't know.  I don't think the POM variety used in the studies (http://www.pomwonderful.com/) is the only juice that will work.  It is very expensive as well.
 
Does anyone else know if there is a better effect from POM juice opposed to ordinary, yet 100% Pomegranate juice?  I haven't found anything in the literature to support it either way.
 
Idaho

Age: 54
PSA: 4.3
Biopsy: T1c, 3+3=6, 2 pos. samples in one side of prostate
Da Vinci 31 Jul 2007: saved nerve bundle on side of non-cancerous side
Final pathology: Confined to prostate, T2a, 3+3=6
Working to get back into good shape
Waiting to take that first post-op PSA

AEG
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Date Joined Nov 2005
Total Posts : 154
   Posted 8/22/2007 8:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi IdahoSurvivor,

I just found a bottle of POM pomegranate juice in my house and guess what, under the ingredients, it says "pomegranate juice from concentrate and natural flavors". So I guess the Langer's is OK.

A.
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