A callout to BenEcho and Veteran1 - Depression sucks.

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Tony Crispino
Veteran Member


Date Joined Dec 2006
Total Posts : 8122
   Posted 9/5/2007 9:04 AM (GMT -7)   
When I first came here I remember the difficulties that Ben was having with incontinance probably more than any other poster at the time.  He was suffering mightly and was growing depressed.  After several months of living with Gleason 10, stage III cancer he has not posted in a while.  Most here will also know Veteran 1.  An articulate poster who was keeping a secret of sorts.  His last post was in the depression forum here at HW.  He too is a Gleason 9, stage III patient.  I have been very fortunate to not let my advanced disease bring me to depression.  While my Gleason is lower than these guys, the stage was more advanced for me.  Not to mention the pre-op PSA.  No question, I was and am a candidate for depression.  But it hasn't happened.  I keep planning my weekends and keep looking ahead.  I don't act like I have a potentially fatal stage disease, and I don't know why I take it so calmly.  It's with that that I ask us all to be aware of our friends here during Prostate Cancer Awareness month.  We have many others here who need our support as a team.  New posters come here and will need our experiences to get themselves prepared for the next steps.  Older posters that are here have both a more difficult time and way of dealing with this disease.  Ben and Vet have been dealing with depression for some time and I hope they glance over this.  We miss you and wish you back.  There is nothing depressing about a friends caring and concern.  I extend it to all who have had depression.  Depression and Cancer are a dangerous combination.  If you or your loved one has these diseases then seek help.  Don't give in if you can.  As far as supporting the new posters, don't allow yourself to contribute without considering where others are both physically and mentally.  We can be a powerful aid to many people.  Emotions are a first reaction to cancer.  It was for me and I don't think there is a poster here at this forum that did not react emotionally when confirmed with cancer. 
 
So for Ben and Vet, and all the others who are affected with depression, let me tell you that I care and want you to stay here.  I want to help.  My EM is open for any to discuss.
 
Tony
 
 
 


Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007
Post-Op Pathology was poor: Gleason 4+3=7, 4 positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
 
My PSA did drop out after surgery to undetectable.  It has not returned and I will continue HT until January '08.
 
My Life is supported very well by family and friends like you all.
 
STAY POSITIVE!

Post Edited (TC-LasVegas) : 9/5/2007 10:19:38 AM (GMT-6)


bluebird
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Date Joined May 2006
Total Posts : 2542
   Posted 9/5/2007 4:28 PM (GMT -7)   

Dear Vet ~

 

Reaching out as you have to others… is healthy.  Please ~ reach back to us periodically.  You have given so much to the prostate forum in all of the threads you started. 

We keep you close in thoughts and prayers… and with the forum growing so rapidly ~ we need you to keep us close too! We all care and I know you feel it!!! 

Hugs and special thoughts are coming to you.

In Friendship ~ Lee & Buddy

 

Dear Ben ~

Our thoughts are with you ~ please continue to reach out to all of us.  Staying close is important… I’m glad to see you haven’t completely let us go.  The forum is busy these days so jump in and visit ~ even if it’s just to say hi.

Know we care…. for you!  Hugs and special thoughts are coming your way.

In Friendship ~ Lee & Buddy

 

 

Dear Tony ~

Here's your "Special Hug" from Lee & Buddy

 

 


mama bluebird - Lee & Buddy… from North Carolina

 

v          We invite you to visit our personal thread:  Click Here:  “Our Journey” ~ Sharing is Caring 

April 3, 2006  53 on surgery day

RRP / Radical Retropubic Prostatectomy

PSA 4.6   Gleason  3+3=6    T2a   Confined to Prostate

3rd PSA 08-07-2007 Less than 0.1 Non-Detectable :)


kw
Veteran Member


Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 883
   Posted 9/8/2007 12:47 PM (GMT -7)   

    Being one of the "Leakers" here I can attest to haveing some mild bouts of depression.  I seem to bounce back to reality pretty quick.  The incontenance is manageable.  It may clear up with time and work.  Or, I may have to have the Artificial Sphincter or a sling done.  But I just gotta keep my head up.

    Good Luck All


    43
    PSA 5.7 - Discovered during Annual Physical with Family Practice Dr.
    Gleason 7
    Biopsy - 3 of 12 positive (up to 75%) all on left side of prostate
    RRP on Oct. 17, 2006 - Nerves on right side saved.
    All Lab's clear.  No Cancer outside prostate
    Cathiter in for 3 weeks due to complications in healing. Removed Nov. 9, 2006
    First Post op PSA on Dec. 11, 2006  Undetectable 0.00
    Office visit on Jan. 19th due to continued excessive urine leakage.
    Feb.20th Cystoscope and 2nd Post Op PSA. Another 0.00.....:)
    Dr. said everything looks fine.  Continue to work Kegeal's. Leaking appears to have improved  after Cystoscope?!?!?!  Down to 3-4 pads per day!
    March 1st  Leaking has crept back up to 6 - 8 pads a day ??????? 
    March 8th Started Detrol LA to see if it helps with the leaking?
    March 29th Collagen injection into sphincter / bladder neck area to control excessive leaking.  Worked for a couple of days then back to leaking.
    April 17th (Six Months Post Op) 2nd Collagen Injection to control excessive leaking.  Leaking started back next day at work!
    May 14th Second Opinion about my leaking and Options at OU Medical Center.  After reviewing my records the Dr. feels I will probably need some surgical intervention to stop my leaking.  But did agree to try Bio-Feedback and work hard on the Kegeal's first!
    May 30th Follow up with my Dr. and 3rd Post Op PSA 0.00 agian!!!
    June 1st Start Bio-Feedback to try to control my leaking.
   


Tony Crispino
Veteran Member


Date Joined Dec 2006
Total Posts : 8122
   Posted 9/8/2007 2:34 PM (GMT -7)   
KW,
I would probably be the same way. I just lucked out. Very little issues. Most within a week after the catheter came out. But you do sound good. What's up with the posibility of the surgical intervention? I've heard of it but it does not seem common as I don't believe there are any members here that had it. Take care.

Tony
Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007
Post-Op Pathology was poor: Gleason 4+3=7, 4 positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
 
My PSA did drop out after surgery to undetectable.  It has not returned and I will continue HT until January '08.
 
My Life is supported very well by family and friends like you all.
 
STAY POSITIVE!


bluebird
Veteran Member


Date Joined May 2006
Total Posts : 2542
   Posted 11/9/2007 8:09 AM (GMT -7)   
tongue Hey ~ Vet,
It's really good to hear from you!!!  yeah   
Thought I'd post your link here... for future readers 
11-09-07  Thread started by Veteran1   Still Alive  
 
:-)  Hey ~Ben,
We are continuing to keep you close!  Feel the love, support, and friendship coming your way.
 
Keeping "All of YOU"...close to our hearts as we all reach out to each other!!!
In Friendship ~ Lee & Buddy

pasayten
Regular Member


Date Joined Mar 2007
Total Posts : 424
   Posted 11/9/2007 10:44 PM (GMT -7)   

Hello All,

Depression is no stranger to me...  Have not mentioned it very much on this site.  I had three or four serious episodes starting in 1999 before PCa and been thru many counseling and medication regimes.  In fact, I was in serious depression Dec 2006 which evemtually caused me to go in and get overall physicals and also to get my PSA checked again.  Then the biopsy and then PCa...  So, depression actually helped me find I had PCa...  Go figure...

Anyway, at the time of diagnosis of PCa, I actually found it beneficial mentally in a bizarre way...  It let me check out of worrying about getting better with depression and concentrate on PCa...  Just the "break" I needed.  Now the PCa is "gone" and after changing doctors and re-evaluating my depression and meds, that is gone also...  God sure does work in strange ways!

Anyway, just wanted to let you all know that I am someone you can really talk about on depression...  I have been at the BOTTOM of the dark pit more than once.  No, I didn't have a health diagnosis that was life threatening, but I truly believed that life was not worth living anymore...  seriously...   With God, family, friends, and modern medicine, I really feel I have come thru the battle and won.  I know this dark evil disease very well and how it can greatly impact your life.  But I also know that now it CAN BE CONQUERED! 

You can also contact me via email (in my profile).  Just like PCa...  NO question is too silly, intimate, or uncomfortable to ask.

With love and God's blessings,

Ray (Pasayten)

P.S. By the way, for any women out there, my wife Avis is also an "expert" on depression and survival.  Whenwe met and got married, it was a common background in both our lives.

 

 

 


Age 59 y/o - Last 3-4 years of annual general health checkups - PSA 5-6
3/13/2007 - 12 point biopsy - Left 0/6  Right 1/6 Gleason 3+3 Diagnosed as T1c
4/24/2007 - DaVinci performed at Virginia Mason hospital in Seattle
5/2/2007 - Catheter Out! Final pathology of Gleason 6  T2c Nx Mx,   approx 20% of prostate involved, positive margin, but only at 2 focal points.  
6/28/2007 9 weeks post-op incontinance... Overnite, went from 4-6 soaked pads a day from prev 8 weeks to 2 barely wet pads a day.
7/12/2007 11 weeks post-op  Minimal leakage...  one small pad a day
7/18/2007 First Post-Op PSA...  0.01 !!! 
7/30/2007 ED improved to about 60% erection and "functional". Only using 50mg Viagra generic every 2-3 days.
9/10/2007 Ran out of pads one day and had no dribbles all day...  Now pad free. :-)


bluebird
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Date Joined May 2006
Total Posts : 2542
   Posted 11/10/2007 8:18 AM (GMT -7)   

smurf    Just a reminder… for Newbies, Oldies, and Lurkers ~

                               Members are reaching out ~ Take time to reach back!!! yeah

 

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