Rod's Surgery Was Cancelled

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mariateresa
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   Posted 9/11/2007 6:53 PM (GMT -7)   
In the time it usually takes to have the robotic procedure done, was the amount of time the team tried to administer anesthesia. Rod kept having bronchial spasms in spite of all attempts. Thank goodness it happened before they made an incision because the outcome could have been much worse. We were told the dangerousness with the anesthesia far outweighed the risk of cancer at the time. They had to wake Rod up with the tube still down his throat. He felt duress as they were telling him to breathe, breathe.... I feel so terribly bad for Rod.

Two pulmonary specialists came to talk to him. His CXR was fine. We go back to the hospital tomorrow for a pulmonary function test and to reschedule the surgery, but the pulmonary doctors want Rod to see an allergist too. More delays and in the meantime we worry about the cancer spreading.

Rod still has Medical LOA and Disability paperwork that needs to be completed by a physician. And now this setback is only going to cost us more money. We worry about becoming financially ruined.

I was so worried this would happen because a couple of weeks after Rod had the biopsy, he developed this horrible rash all over his body. He refused to go the doctor. And since the biopsy he had a bad sinus infection where the side of his nose even swelled up and he has had tightening in the lungs. I can even hear wheezing when I put my head on his chest. He has been self-medicating with Claritan, Mucinex, Robitussin cough drops, and a combo med that contains a decongestant, expectorant and Tylenol. I told him to stop and go to the doctor but he wouldn't listen to me. Rod smoked for 37 years, but quit four years ago. He works as an electronic technician handling solder, circuit boards, etc. A couple of weeks ago when he tried to cut the grass I found him outside squatting against the wall because he was short of breath. Maybe our house is making us sick? Our cat died in January, our other cat is sick, one of our dogs is sick, I have ear problems, and now Rod is sick. The only thing I recently changed in the house was the cat litter from clay to a combo of wheat and pine.

My first reaction was to ask God why did this happen because everyone I know has been praying so hard and now this had to happen. Right now I feel like a mom full of tenderness towards a child, but in this case it is my husband. I feel so sad for him. This really stinks! I feel like we're just flapping in the wind.

Now I just feel like sitting in the corner and crying... What a let down!

Maria Teresa
Husband Age 55 Maria Teresa age 44

Total PSA 8 on 05/21/07

DRE: prostate bumpy

Biopsy on 07/16/07: 5 out of 8 cores positive, Gleason Score 8 (3+4+5)**

CT of the abd/pelvis; Bone Scan; Xrays done on 08/13/07: Normal

Robotic Surgery Scheduled for September 11, 2007 - Cancelled due to anesthesia complications


**"Report to the Nation on Prostate Cancer" published by the Prostate Cancer Foundation, page 11: "In some cases, the pathologist might identify a third pattern, which is less common but that has a higher grade than either of the first two patterns that comprised the Gleason score. The presence of this third pattern might indicate that the tumor is more aggressive than the Gleason score would otherwise imply. For example, if a Gleason 4+3 tumor also has some grade 5 cells, the cancer would be considered as being of higher grade disease overall."

Post Edited (mariateresa) : 9/11/2007 8:40:57 PM (GMT-6)


Doting Daughter
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   Posted 9/11/2007 8:21 PM (GMT -7)   

I am so sorry to hear the news about Rod's surgery today.  I don't know why things happen the way they do.  I have asked God a million times in the last two weeks, but please know that we will continue to pray for the both of you.  Hold on and keep the faith, I know it doesn't seem bearable at times.  I hope it gets easier soon!  God Bless!

Doting


Cherfd
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   Posted 9/11/2007 9:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Rod and Maria Teresa, I am so sorry to hear of the complications with the anesthesia, but on the other hand you can count your blessings it happened before and not during. They say god works in ways we will never understand but, almost always it is a blessing. There are many stories of pre-surgery findings that have worked out to save people's lifes, my mom was one of them. We will keep you close in our prayers and wait to see what you find out. Did the surgeon know about Rod's sickness before the surgery? Mayby this will help him realize just how important it is to communicate with the doctors. They need to know everything, always.
Keep us posted. Our hearts go out to you both.
Cheryl
7/19/07 PSA 8.3
8/16/07 Biopsy
1 of 14 Cores positive 3-5%


biker90
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   Posted 9/11/2007 9:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Dear Maria Teresa,

When unexpected things like this happen, all we can do is take things one step at a time. Rod needs to get his allergy taken care of and any other problems he might be having. This experience should point out the importance of being completely open with the doctor pre surgery. You can't skip any steps and get a good result. Sometimes doctors think they know all they need to know about us when there are things in our history that need to be brought out. Make them listen! Go over everything!

We are all with you in this trial. Please stay close...

Jim
Age 73. Diagnosed 11/03/06. PSA 7.05. Stage T2C Gleason 3+3.
RRP 12/7/06. Nerves and nodes okay.
Pathological stage: T2C. Gleason 3+4. Cancer confined to prostate.
PSAs from  1/3/07 - 7/18/07 0.00. 
T level on 4/2/07 - 48     On 7/16/07 - 613
Started Tri-Mix on 8/7/07.  .02 ml and 50 mg Viagra.  It works!!!
Next PSA and T tests on 10/17/07
 
"Patience is essential, attitude is everything."
 


uncledan
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 120
   Posted 9/11/2007 10:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Talking about things happening for the good. My son had a friend he mountain bikes with who had a wreck and broke a collar bone. On the xray they happened to catch a small section of the heart. His heart didn't look right so they did another xray of only the heart. His heart was encased by a tumor, yet he had no symptoms. They said if they waited till he had any symptoms it would have been too late. He is back riding his bike again. Sometimes things just work out and I beleive that God has his hand in it. We have you and Rod in our prayers. God Bless, Uncle Dan
Age 67
No symptoms, DRE negative
10-06 PSA 5.44 01-07 PSA 6.47
CT and Bone scan negative
05-07 Biopsies, 2 of 6 positive
Gleason Score (3+4) 7 Stage T1c
08-14 Dr. Dasari - Baptist Hospital
da Vinci RAP, five hours surgery
Hospital 2 1/2 days, 8 -14 to 8 -16
Pathology report Negative margins
Cancer encapsulated,
Lymph nodes 2 R & 1 L - Negative,
R & L seminal vesicles - Negative
Gleason changed (4+3) 7 closer to 8 than 6
8-31 Use pad when out, Sleeping without pad.


IdahoSurvivor
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   Posted 9/11/2007 10:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Dear Maria Teresa,
 
I'm am very sorry you didn't make the progress you expected today.  You're right, it really stinks! 
 
I do have to tell you that I am very glad the doctors caught the problem in time such that they didn't have to close Rod up in the middle of a critical time in surgery.  I can think about many things that could have been "half done" during surgery and then the doctors needing to close him up to save his life.  Those consequences may have been very severe.
 
I know the doctors will find a way to get the treatment Rod needs.  Unfortunately, this will take a little more time.  I don't believe that the time needed will pose a significant risk in the way of the cancer spreading.
 
We are keeping you close in our thoughts and prayers.  Stay with us!
 
Kind regards,
 
Idaho
 
 

Da Vinci Surgery July 31, 2007… 54 on surgery day
PSA 4.3  Gleason 3+3=6  T2a  Confined to Prostate

Blood test for first post-op PSA - Sept 11, 2007

My awareness web site: http://pca-info.blogspot.com

 


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 9/11/2007 10:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Maria Teresa,
What a let down. Jim is right, a lot of times people find new allergies to medications and anesthesia's when going through this stuff. I know right after my biopsy I had a severe rash from the Bactrim that I took as an antibiotic. I took the medication for a few days before and a few days after the biopsy. I had welts all over my body. I learned I was allergic to sulfa medications. And that might be all that has happened to Rod on the anesthesia. That would explain why they suggested an allergist. Hopefully they will find an anesthesia that he can take and get back to work. God bless you kids and hang in there.

Tony
Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007
Post-Op Pathology was poor: Gleason 4+3=7, 4 positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
 
My PSA did drop out after surgery to undetectable.  It has not returned and I will continue HT until January '08.
 
My Life is supported very well by family and friends like you all.
 
STAY POSITIVE!


Cedar Chopper
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Date Joined Mar 2007
Total Posts : 432
   Posted 9/12/2007 3:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Maria Teresa,

General anesthesia is THE most risky part of the Radical Prostatectomy these days.
Your surgery team will get past this apparent allergic reaction and procede with ever more caution.

Still, such setbacks can be maddening - emotionally and financially draining - to say the least.

Keep us informed and keep yourselves in that envelope of love we all need - and share.

May God's Love be with you, always - in the Son!

CCedar

M. Kat
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   Posted 9/12/2007 4:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Maria Teresa, sorry to hear about the delay, but things will move forward. the cancer will not spread that quickly so take your time and find out what's wrong with Rod. maybe this is a wake-up call to him that he needs to call the doctor when things are right. take good care of yourself.....kat
Husband Jeff 56 years old diagnosed July 27, 2006
PSA 6.5, 2 positive areas in biopsy, Gleason 3+3=6
Radical Retropubic Prostatectomy August 30, 2006
pathology report - all clear - cancer gone
1st post-surgery PSA test <0.1, 2nd post-surgery PSA test <0.1, 3rd PSA <0.1
no more pads Oct 12, 2006
first "real" erection with use of pump 12/16/06
3/07 - occasional dribbles and erections with Cialis and pump
8/07 - 1 yr PSA <0.1
9/1/07 - achieved erection with Viagra - no pump!


Swimom
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   Posted 9/12/2007 7:27 AM (GMT -7)   
So sorry MT (short for Maria Teresa)

I hope the rest of the week gets better. If it wasn't right then it wasn't right. I know this must add anxiety onto what Rod already feels...poor guy. Both of you....kick a few pillows (cuz walls would hurt!) then head out to do something distracting this week. Just focus on something else if only for a few hours at a time. They'll get to the bottom of the issue and then things will proceed. We'll keep Rod close in thought and prayer. For you...well, you and I live close enough to go get a drink!!! :>)

Swim
 


mochapj
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Date Joined Jun 2007
Total Posts : 22
   Posted 9/12/2007 7:45 AM (GMT -7)   
So sorry about this setback.

Take care of yourself and each other.

Julie

mvesr
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Date Joined Apr 2007
Total Posts : 823
   Posted 9/12/2007 5:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Dear Mariateresa.

So sorry you guys are having a tough time of all this. Rod is lucky they didn't get into the surgery before he had these problems. I know they will figure all this out and he will get his surgery done. I have sleep apnea and didn't know it when I had my gall bladder removed. The deal cost me two days in intensive care and two more days in the hospital. I had the radical open surgery for my prostate and had no problems with it. You guys hand in there and it will be fine.

Mika-mvesr

gtmriviera
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Date Joined May 2007
Total Posts : 338
   Posted 9/13/2007 4:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Because I have Parkinsons, they tell me that the anesthesia is a very important consideration.  Unfortunately that is all that they have told me and I hope that they don't expect me to tell them what medication to use.  I know a tiny bit about a lot of things, but anesthesia isn't one of them.  This is frustrating for you, but take it for a learning experience and if we could ask a favor please let us know anything else that you find out about this.  Life is throwing us some curves, but I'm swinging for the fence.

mariateresa
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Date Joined Jun 2007
Total Posts : 95
   Posted 9/13/2007 6:38 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't know what I would do without all you wonderful people! Thank you! You folks always make me feel soooo much better!

Love and Hugs,

Maria Teresa

PS- I write an update in a new post.
Husband Age 55 Maria Teresa age 44
Total PSA 8 on 05/21/07
DRE: prostate bumpy
Biopsy on 07/16/07: 5 out of 8 cores positive, Gleason Score 8 (3+4+5)**
CT of the abd/pelvis; Bone Scan; Xrays done on 08/13/07: Normal
Robotic Surgery Scheduled for September 11, 2007 - Cancelled due to anesthesia complications
Robotic Surgery Rescheduled for September 25, 2007

**"Report to the Nation on Prostate Cancer" published by the Prostate Cancer Foundation, page 11: "In some cases, the pathologist might identify a third pattern, which is less common but that has a higher grade than either of the first two patterns that comprised the Gleason score. The presence of this third pattern might indicate that the tumor is more aggressive than the Gleason score would otherwise imply. For example, if a Gleason 4+3 tumor also has some grade 5 cells, the cancer would be considered as being of higher grade disease overall."

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